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Happy Fathers Day

stowe1

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Happy Fathers Day to all whose journey out of the closet took them through a heterosexual relationship and/or marriage and had children. I wouldn't trade the experience of being a Father with an easier path out of the closet. I had 22 years with my soul mate who is the only person I ever truly loved and who ever truly loved me and together we raised three children.

And also Happy Fathers Day to those Dads who knew they were gay and have become Fathers through fostering, surrogacy, or adoption.
 
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Hey,

Thanks for this, Stowe! It's a very important message.

I have to confess, from my own side, that, as a younger person, I was aware of being gay at a very young age - and there were always lots of girls who wanted to date or marry me (six offered marriage): but I never dated a girl, because I always knew it would be fundamentally dishonest, on my part. And I suppose I always felt a little judgemental about gay guys who DID get married to women - let alone having children.

Years later, and partly through some of the nice friendships I've been lucky enough to have on this forum (and others): I've come to realize that life is a little messier than it initially seemed to ME, the determined little Platonist. For a whole lot of reasons - social pressures, sincere friendship, and yes - real out-and-out emotional LOVE. . . gay men have always married women, and continue to do so, to this day.

I was lucky enough to grow up just AFTER the era when gay men were expected to marry, and expected to prove their bona fides as human beings, by living in a heterosexual relationship, and having children. (I kind of grew up in the "dead zone", where being gay was NOT YET fully accepted, as a life's path - but not as actively PERSECUTED, as it had been, in the past.)

So, while most of my older gay friends are militantly single - even in terms of any gay relationship; and most of my younger ones are either happily partnered with a man, or LOOKING. . . I know lots of people who are just slightly older than I am, who DID marry, and have children. Or even people who ARE my age, or even younger, who, because of friendship or genuine emotional love, gave heterosexual marriage a try, and HAD children.

I know that can't be easy. Because of social strictures, in the past, this was sometimes tragic, I suppose. Reading this article on "Slate", touched me deeply: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/...ed_my_dad_if_he_was_gay_then_he_was_gone.html

But, as people like you and Louis prove to us, all the time - gay Dads can be GREAT Dads. I don't know who it was who brought it to our attention, first, but, Ben Hobson is proving that, all over again, in a very visible and wonderful way, on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GoQgq_v_ew

So. . . I'm very thankful, to all you gay Dads out there, who have proved, and ARE STILL PROVING, that love has no limits. And, of course, to all the gay Dads (and Moms) who are making the world a better place by adopting children who need their love, too. This is awesome, and wonderful.

For my own part, I am just glad that I have the BEST DAD in the world. (He isn't gay - he's straight as an arrow ;-) He knows it, because when I was 11, I entered a Father's Day contest sponsored by the local shopping-mall, and wrote about WHY he was the best Dad in the world. My essay won, and, in consequence, we won $100 worth of camping gear - which was a FORTUNE, in 1976. . . we got sleeping-bags for everybody, and plastic dishes, and set out on a big camping trip. The mall manager (clad in plaid pants and white shoes like Herb Tarlek, from WKRP in Cincinnati) when we got presented with the prize, asked me, "'A'. may I show your Dad the essay you wrote about him???" And I said, NO WAY! And, Stowe, maybe that's my biggest regret, to this very day. . . .

Because, MY DAD is an ANGEL. Every gay friend I have ever had has said, "Wow, I wish HE were MY DAD, too." Because, my Dad is in many ways just a conservative old Canadian farmer, born in the Great Depression, with very conservative values - modesty, responsibility, fidelity, and being kind to your FAMILY.

But, he is surprisingly liberal in some ways, and very open-minded. Every gay friend of mine (some of whom were getting flack from their parents for BEING gay, sometimes for religious reasons, and my Dad himself is quite religious) - he has made a special point of taking them out for a nice dinner, listening quietly to all their stories, and travails, and woes, and telling them, at the end: "Young man, we don't have any choice about whether we are straight, or gay - it's simply the way God made us. What we DO have a choice about, is how we live our lives, being KIND and LOYAL and FAITHFUL to our partners, and loving our families and ALL the people around us. . . so NEVER feel ashamed of WHO YOU ARE - just go on and love everyone you know wisely, and well, and that's what a good life is ALL ABOUT."

So, Stowe - I really couldn't have asked for a better Dad. And I am sure your kids, and Louis' kids, and Ben Hobson's kids. . . couldn't, either.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jRXt2Bt1Sc
 
Happy Fathers Day to you Stowe, and to all the other men who've fathered children before coming out as gay. Some of my best friends on the forum presently and in the past, had been married at one time in their lives and many are fathers, so I wish a wonderful day to all of you and hope you get to communicate with your kids today.

I am fortunate to have a close relationship with my older brother, and I will be going to dinner with his family late this afternoon. And the forumites who are fortunate enough to still have your fathers in your lives, I sure hope you get to speak on the phone or spend some time with your Dads on this day!
 
Thank you both for your wonderful wishes. Years ago I belonged to MCC, a gay church. I was in the choir, my daughter played in the ensemble and my son helped out with the raffles at our Thursday night pot luck dinners. At one point my children asked me if they could be baptized there. I explained to them that they had already been baptized in the Catholic church but they said they wanted to be baptized in their church. We also had a gay dads' group at the church. Once a month we would have social gatherings with our kids. We did things like picnics, beach, baseball games, bowling, etc. Those were happy times for me. My daughter surprised me this past year and told me my granddaughter had joined the GLBT club at her high school as a supporter for the lifestyle.

I forgot to mention my former mother-in-law also came with us every Sunday for services as well as the Thursday dinners. My ex-wife would attend on occasion.

I also want to thank those gay parents in the public eye who have shown society that we can be loving and responsible dads and moms too. I am referring to people like Ricky Martin, Neil Patrick Harris, Elton John and Jodi Foster.

Love to all.
 
Love to all the fathers; those who sired children, and those who take on the responsibility other men have not. I see a "father," just like a "family," it is a person(s) who loves you and tries to help you be your best. Steve and I are lucky enough to have our daughter here during this time; she flew in with little notice, and I have no idea when she will leave; life. :thumbup:
 
My two children live a distance away so I was expecting to see them. Linda said she was going to cook today a dad's dinner. I went over there to hang out while she cooked. When I got there my daughter and granddaughter surprised me. They drove up to be with me today. The other surprise is that my daughter is cooking my favorite dinner. I came home for a bit to let my dog out and feed the cat. As soon as I finish writing this I'll head back over there. It is turning out to be a good day.

Talk to all of you tomorrow.
 
My two children live a distance away so I was expecting to see them. Linda said she was going to cook today a dad's dinner. I went over there to hang out while she cooked. When I got there my daughter and granddaughter surprised me. They drove up to be with me today. The other surprise is that my daughter is cooking my favorite dinner. I came home for a bit to let my dog out and feed the cat. As soon as I finish writing this I'll head back over there. It is turning out to be a good day.

Talk to all of you tomorrow.
Happy Fathers Day Louis. I am so pleased that your family surprised you today!!! I hope it was a wonderful day for you.
 
Happy Fathers Day :thumbup:
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What a picture Damien. Thank you! :)

Sorry I'm late to the party on this one. I want to thank everybody for sharing all of these sentiments and memories. Happy Father's Day to all the dads in our family here. :thumbup:


Father's Days are a little more difficult for me because I don't have my dad around anymore.
 
What a picture Damien. Thank you! :)

Sorry I'm late to the party on this one. I want to thank everybody for sharing all of these sentiments and memories. Happy Father's Day to all the dads in our family here. :thumbup:


Father's Days are a little more difficult for me because I don't have my dad around anymore.

Thank you tampa :)
 
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