I think anyone that films porn, deals with models may it be female or male or whatever....we all have stories and we can all write a book about the crazy models and how they really are in life and there stories. My outtake is that, our future young adults regardless what type of family they come from, they are really messed up people and we are in trouble as a whole society. But then again, I am jaded...LOL
I'm right there with you David. haha I want to be the optimist on the long-term prognosis of humakind. Like 500-2,000 years and beyond down the road. But in the short term... Not so much! haha
I watched Shameless a lot too when I first got introduced to it. I thought it was a riot. And I also loved the gratuitous full frontal male nudity. But then as time went on after about season 4 or 5 I guess, the nudity got less and less until it was down to practically nothing. Like you were watching some "edgy" R-rated movie of the 70's or 80's all over again. A few shots of tits and butts on women, and only the butts on a few guys. No more penises any more. Then (in my mind) the depravity and criminality of the lfestyle the characters led became the major driving force of the show. The darkness of some of the storylines is not for the sensitive or the faint of heart. haha I finally had to stop when I realized it was affecting me and my own mental health. For one thing, I found myself being tempted to want to cuss like a sailor in my real life. And that's not me. When I realized it was from watching too much of the show, I finally just stopped. My outlook on life also improved. lol If you do want to watch the whole series of the show I'd recommend you take it slowly, (like once a week) rather than trying to binge-watch it.
But I can totally believe you David that many of your/our models grew up in families and households that had more than passing similarities to some of the characters and/or some of the storylines of the show. For those of us who were fortuante enough to grow up more priviliged and sheltered, or perhaps poor but still in much more functional loving families...it boggles the mind to find out some of the things that really go on out there in the world.
Something was mentioned earlier about Jesse's habit of playing with his hair. I admit that I found it distracting at times myself. But given his backstory, to which he only shared a relatively tiny glimpse...I get it. It's like a nervous tick for him. When he's nervous or stressed he plays with his hair. With some guys it will be an actual physical tick. Like a twitching eyelid, or a continuous sniffle when the person's nervous that has nothing to do with a cold or sinuses. Some guys may fidget with their fingers in a very specific way. They're all physical "tells" of either present nervousness or past emotional or physical trauma. Or all of the above.
If I lived through a story like Jesse's where I had to try to fall alseep on a winter night under the awning of some building still mostly exposed to all the elements, hoping I wouldn't get robbed or beaten in my sleep..and hoping I woudn't get hypothermia... I might well go the rest of my life with an eyelid that twitched almost constantly... Or the knuckle of a certain finger that I would be cracking on a regular basis... Or a finger that I might chew on whenever I got especially stressed.
As David and some of the rest of us have discussed before, David has become almost an armchair psychological expert at picking up on all of the signs. The physical, the demeaner, body language, eye contact, conversational, "line of thought" kinds of "tells"...that alert him to not only just present nervousness, drug use, etc., but also things like bipolar, OCD, manic behavior, forms of PTSD, multiple personality disorder, schizophrenia and so on. I'm sure in his day he has seen a little bit of it ALL. Maybe a LOT. David's also a Scorpio, like I am, and like Mark is. Which means we have some of the gift of "truth sense" when someone tries to lie or deceive us. Just to say that even though I don't know David personally as a good friend who I spend time with often in the real world...I can prettty much assure you that he picks up on more in the first 2-10 minutes of meeting someone than others might figure out in a whole day. haha
For any of you who are wary that Jesse may have been taking me or us for a ride with his story of homelessness, I understand your caution and skepticism. I mean, why get so worked up over something that might not even be true. Right? I get that viewpoint. And yes. It's a valid concern and point. I'm not so gullible or naive enough to think that everything models tell us in their interviews is always totally true. Of course not. haha As I've said before though I do believe him on that part of the story based on my own reading of him.
That said, I don't think this has been an unproductive conversation at all. I think it's food for thought for all of us. Because even if Jesse's story was a total work of fiction...there are and have been thousands of minor kids out on our country's streets for whom this kind of story...and maybe more than a handful with almost this exact story even...treatment by parents, etc...was all too real. Especially for the LGBT.
