Downturn in site quality

[dannylandulf]

Hey all,

Been a member off an on for more than a decade, though I don't use the forums much.

Is it just me or has the quality of the this site steadily declined in the last couple years?

The attractiveness of the guys, the frequency of the updates, everything feels substandard. Just look at the updates from the last couple months and even the 'Coming Soon'...they are still using photos from what looks like an early fall shoot.

I don't think the site's had a new model of the quality of the old scenes since Jake Spencer, over two years ago.

Getting hard to justify paying for a site that continues to slip so far in quality.

 

[Repareur]

Hey all,

Been a member off an on for more than a decade, though I don't use the forums much.

Is it just me or has the quality of the this site steadily declined in the last couple years?

The attractiveness of the guys, the frequency of the updates, everything feels substandard. Just look at the updates from the last couple months and even the 'Coming Soon'...they are still using photos from what looks like an early fall shoot.

I don't think the site's had a new model of the quality of the old scenes since Jake Spencer, over two years ago.

Getting hard to justify paying for a site that continues to slip so far in quality.

You are not alone. Many of us feel that way. I’m here more for the forum than the porn these days and it’s not as fun as it used to be either. Occasionally they do hit on a cute new model or two. But nothing like the old days.

 

[StudddAndy]

I admit the frequency of the postings new scenes is down, but in my (somewhat humble) opinion, the model quality is improved. I notice that they post some models that I believe NOT to be straight, but I love to see a hot (EVEN OBVIOUSLY) gay guy get his ass fucked off by a big dick. Fucked so hard, he loves it. Fucked like he's hot.

Yes! Hot guys, hot sex, big dicks, and guys that know how to take a fucking like a man. But that's just my opinion.

I notice from the ratings, that a lot of these new models are getting ratings above 4.5. We don't get to vote if we're not a member. Although I do believe they count the votes of a new member as being the same as someone who has been a member for a decade, (Which I have!) and posted thousands of times.

I accept that some people on Broke Straight Boys hate me and hate to see what I post, or treat my posts as if they didn't exist. I'm totally OK with the system. I try to be positive, and I'm doing better at it, even if not earning forgiveness. I just keep liking what I like, ignoring what I don't like, and loving Broke Straight Boys

And I still love to post from time to time.

PTL

 

[Jaybifla]

I accept that some people on Broke Straight Boys hate me and hate to see what I post, or treat my posts as if they didn't exist. I'm totally OK with the system. I try to be positive, and I'm doing better at it, even if not earning forgiveness. I just keep liking what I like, ignoring what I don't like, and loving Broke Straight Boys

And I still love to post from time to time.

PTL

I don’t hate you. I absolutely love your reviews and they certainly make me smile. I do know how you feel though, because I have also felt disliked many times. I think hate is too strong of a word, but it doesn’t feel nice when you know people are making cheap jabs at you. I too have made several threads and comments in the past that have totally been ignored, and all I have ever tried to do is spark conversations with people. I know we’re all strangers, and we don’t really know each other’s personal circumstances. My over posting comes from a place of loneliness. It’s embarrassing for me to admit that, but it’s true.
As far as the main topic of this thread, I do feel the site moving in a different direction. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, because you have to do what you have to do to stay relevant in this business. I have been a member for 2 consecutive years and off and on since 2010 or 11. I’m hanging in there, but I am on the fence. At the end of the day, I know management has to go with the flow and with the most popular, and I’m definitely in the minority.

 

[petefromsaintpete]

I don’t hate you. I absolutely love your reviews and they certainly make me smile. I do know how you feel though, because I have also felt disliked many times. I think hate is too strong of a word, but it doesn’t feel nice when you know people are making cheap jabs at you. I too have made several threads and comments in the past that have totally been ignored, and all I have ever tried to do is spark conversations with people. I know we’re all strangers, and we don’t really know each other’s personal circumstances. My over posting comes from a place of loneliness. It’s embarrassing for me to admit that, but it’s true.
As far as the main topic of this thread, I do feel the site moving in a different direction. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, because you have to do what you have to do to stay relevant in this business. I have been a member for 2 consecutive years and off and on since 2010 or 11. I’m hanging in there, but I am on the fence. At the end of the day, I know management has to go with the flow and with the most popular, and I’m definitely in the minority.

Oh Jay, your a big old Teddy Bear. No matter what guys, sometimes it is the people who stir things up once in a while that makes the forum an interesting place. If everyone agreed on every subject, then there would be no need for discussions. StudddyAndy, I hope no one hates you here. However, if you have that feeling, I am sorry you feel that way. Let me be one of the first to apologize.
I have been worried about Oldfart, he hasn't posted in a while, anybody knows anything concerning him? I have been away from the forum for a while, I hope he is ok. How about Tampa? Is Tampa better?
I know this is off topic & I apologize, but in some ways, the forum is like a family & God knows families have their problems.
On Topic, yes I feel Broke Straight Boys's has changed, but I think in some ways for the better, but it is up to interpretation. There are older models, more bi/gay models, more professional models, however, the porn industry has changed. Mark to his credit has been attempting to come up, with new ideas. I remember someone telling me once, " change will happen no matter what, you can change with it, or be left behind in the past. Everyone and everything gets old, that is what innovation is about."

 

[mikeyank]

I do feel the site moving in a different direction. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, because you have to do what you have to do to stay relevant in this business. I have been a member for 2 consecutive years and off and on since 2010 or 11. I’m hanging in there, but I am on the fence. At the end of the day, I know management has to go with the flow and with the most popular, and I’m definitely in the minority.

On Topic, yes I feel Broke Straight Boys's has changed, but I think in some ways for the better, but it is up to interpretation. There are older models, more bi/gay models, more professional models, however, the porn industry has changed. Mark to his credit has been attempting to come up, with new ideas. I remember someone telling me once, " change will happen no matter what, you can change with it, or be left behind in the past. Everyone and everything gets old, that is what innovation is about."

I think that both Jay and Pete make very good points about both society changing since 2010 and before, and the fact that Mark is running a business and there is a bottom line that must be met to stay in business and to make it worthwhile for himself and his employees.

On surface I agree with many of the points that the original poster made on this thread. Yes, I was so much more into the models and the porn during the earlier versions of the site going back to BSB1 when David was filming and later on BSB2 when Clay brought in some incredible handsome, yet often believably straight guys as David did as well. And the vast majority of those guys were brand new to gay porn, which made the journey so much more fun for me.

Today I discover that many if not most of the new performers on the site are not new at all to the gay porn industry, whereas at one time that was a "no-no" here, and Sha and Bryce in fairly recent times have told us that they were mislead by models including somewhat recently by Charles Owens. But now it is all open that they have experience. Today guys are more fluid about their sexuality and it is easier to recruit guys from agents than to take chances interviewing and spending money on testing and transportation to only have guys flake out. So from an economic point of view, I understand the current policy. But from an aesthetic perspective, many if not most for the current newbies to the site are not at all my cup of tea.

For myself, this site means a great deal, and I am hanging on, mainly for this wonderful forum and for the knowledge that the entire archive of models and scenes in the history of Broke Straight Boys is still available for viewing. As long as the price remains right and this forum continues to be as open and uncensored as possible, including threads such as this one, I'm here for the long haul!

 

[mikeyank]

I have been worried about Oldfart, he hasn't posted in a while, anybody knows anything concerning him? I have been away from the forum for a while, I hope he is ok. How about Tampa? Is Tampa better?
I know this is off topic & I apologize, but in some ways, the forum is like a family & God knows families have their problems.

Pete, Oldfart announced several months ago that he was taking a break from the site and left open the possibility that he may return at some point. Tampa stopped by here on Sunday afternoon and made three short posts, where he told us that he is out of the hospital and recuperating with friends, where he does not have internet access. But he stopped by his home to pick some things up and logged on to the site to report on his improving status. And I agree that this forum can be like a family in many ways.

 

[petefromsaintpete]

Pete, Oldfart announced several months ago that he was taking a break from the site and left open the possibility that he may return at some point. Tampa stopped by here on Sunday afternoon and made three short posts, where he told us that he is out of the hospital and recuperating with friends, where he does not have internet access. But he stopped by his home to pick some things up and logged on to the site to report on his improving status. And I agree that this forum can be like a family in many ways.

Thanks, Mike. I try and get to the forum as much as I can. I am happy I am able to type again, still no feeling in my fingers. However, I can live with that. Like Jay, I won't say I am lonely, because of Coco but the forum is kinda like my only human contact. I enjoy the conversations. Your comments are spot on. Thanks again for the updates.

 

[blueplaid]

#bringbackryanpitt

 

[kgmets]

I admit the frequency of the postings new scenes is down, but in my (somewhat humble) opinion, the model quality is improved. I notice that they post some models that I believe NOT to be straight, but I love to see a hot (EVEN OBVIOUSLY) gay guy get his ass fucked off by a big dick. Fucked so hard, he loves it. Fucked like he's hot.

Yes! Hot guys, hot sex, big dicks, and guys that know how to take a fucking like a man. But that's just my opinion.

I notice from the ratings, that a lot of these new models are getting ratings above 4.5. We don't get to vote if we're not a member. Although I do believe they count the votes of a new member as being the same as someone who has been a member for a decade, (Which I have!) and posted thousands of times.

I accept that some people on Broke Straight Boys hate me and hate to see what I post, or treat my posts as if they didn't exist. I'm totally OK with the system. I try to be positive, and I'm doing better at it, even if not earning forgiveness. I just keep liking what I like, ignoring what I don't like, and loving Broke Straight Boys

And I still love to post from time to time.

PTL

No problem with your personal opinion. It's as good as anyone else's. You raise a good point about the newer models drawing some high ratings. That means a lot of members do like them. I like both the old and new BSBs, but in different ways.

 

[Repareur]

No problem with your personal opinion. It's as good as anyone else's. You raise a good point about the newer models drawing some high ratings. That means a lot of members do like them. I like both the old and new BSBs, but in different ways.

KG? Did you work for the UN? That’s a diplomatic post if I ever saw one!

 

[admin]

We watch the scene ratings and the model ratings like a hawk. It's hard to make a site that is going to fit the bill for everyone and have universal appeal. No matter what direction we take things, it will inevitably curry favor with some while alienating others. You can view the episodes according to rating here:
https://members.brokestraightboys.com/episodes.php?s=5&t=

The various metrics we use and available to us in our Content Management System show that we are hitting the mark and increasing the quality of the product as it appeals to overall membership.

Even looking at models (and i'm going based on the model ranking that we consider more accurate which is the rating that is given after a scene has been watched), Calhoun Sawyer is the 4th highest ranked model in the site history with a 4.77 rating. His first appearance was in November 2019. James Dawn is at 4.71 and ranked 13th highest ever and just joined the site last month. So of 514 total Broke Straight Boys models ever, we have two of the highest rated ones added just in the last few months.

Absolutely correct that we haven't been able to main the same number of episodes pushed out per week but I don't see based on the ratings, that the scene quality has dropped. To the contrary the highest rated scene ever added on the site debuted only a couple of weeks ago and has a 4.85 rating (based on 567 total votes). And while the number of episodes pushed out has slipped a little, the price has slipped a lot. The price used to be $34.95 per month "back in the day" and we didn't offer discounts, sales or promos ever.

With stolen content, just for fans, only fans, etc... staying alive and independent is always a moving target. You've seen as sites like Sean Cody get sold off to big mainstream porn companies and dozens upon dozens of others simply go out of business. The struggle is real, folks. But we are proud of the product we are making and as said by others above.. These boys in the 18-25 year old range just don't identify along clearly delineated lines of sexuality anymore. The old archetypes of being either "Straight" or "Gay" don't hold water with them. We try to bring that out in the behind the scenes. I'm 47 and its radically different than how we identified when I was their age. I was listening to a podcast recently and a professor in California who teaches classes on human sexuality said even 5 years ago he would start his class by asking new Freshmen to list "identities". He said he got what we would call the standard "gay" "straight" "bi" "trans". He said last year, he filled up three chalk board with all the labels the students were throwing at him.

With that signing off...
Bryce
he/him/his

 

[Jaybifla]

We watch the scene ratings and the model ratings like a hawk. It's hard to make a site that is going to fit the bill for everyone and have universal appeal. No matter what direction we take things, it will inevitably curry favor with some while alienating others. You can view the episodes according to rating here:
https://members.brokestraightboys.com/episodes.php?s=5&t=

The various metrics we use and available to us in our Content Management System show that we are hitting the mark and increasing the quality of the product as it appeals to overall membership.

Even looking at models (and i'm going based on the model ranking that we consider more accurate which is the rating that is given after a scene has been watched), Calhoun Sawyer is the 4th highest ranked model in the site history with a 4.77 rating. His first appearance was in November 2019. James Dawn is at 4.71 and ranked 13th highest ever and just joined the site last month. So of 514 total Broke Straight Boys models ever, we have two of the highest rated ones added just in the last few months.

Absolutely correct that we haven't been able to main the same number of episodes pushed out per week but I don't see based on the ratings, that the scene quality has dropped. To the contrary the highest rated scene ever added on the site debuted only a couple of weeks ago and has a 4.85 rating (based on 567 total votes). And while the number of episodes pushed out has slipped a little, the price has slipped a lot. The price used to be $34.95 per month "back in the day" and we didn't offer discounts, sales or promos ever.

With stolen content, just for fans, only fans, etc... staying alive and independent is always a moving target. You've seen as sites like Sean Cody get sold off to big mainstream porn companies and dozens upon dozens of others simply go out of business. The struggle is real, folks. But we are proud of the product we are making and as said by others above.. These boys in the 18-25 year old range just don't identify along clearly delineated lines of sexuality anymore. The old archetypes of being either "Straight" or "Gay" don't hold water with them. We try to bring that out in the behind the scenes. I'm 47 and its radically different than how we identified when I was their age. I was listening to a podcast recently and a professor in California who teaches classes on human sexuality said even 5 years ago he would start his class by asking new Freshmen to list "identities". He said he got what we would call the standard "gay" "straight" "bi" "trans". He said last year, he filled up three chalk board with all the labels the students were throwing at him.

With that signing off...
Bryce
he/him/his

Thanks for explaining. While Calhoun and James are currently 2 of the highest ranked models ever in the history, I’m sure they don’t have near the amount of votes a model would have from 8 years ago. You say you watch the ratings like a hawk, but do you listen to your members? There has been a thread for several days inquiring about Ryan Pitt and no one has bothered to answer. Ryan Pitt has a 4.43 and Ethan Steel has a 4.37. Ryan Pitt has a scene in the top 6. You invited Ethan Steel back last week. Will you be extending an invitation to Ryan Pitt?
Also, these little 4-8 minute before and after scenes get a few 5 star scores and get pushed to the top rated over amazing BTS that are much more interesting. I do appreciate your hard work, but quite frankly I feel the ratings are totally flawed. You should consider listening to people rather than relying on scores from people who join for a month or two and bounce. You should listen to the people who have invested time and money and stuck around over someone who joined for $8 on a special, scored some scenes and cancelled. Because some people, not me, have been here a while and still pay quite a bit a month.
I do appreciate your response, but I feel like it was a......”this is how we do it. Accept it or leave”
Just my opinion.

 

[Repareur]

I think it’s a very honest answer. I’m not sure why they won’t answer about Ryan Pitt. I think your points on him are valid and I share them. But I do realize the Market is very different these days. Some of us do like our believably straight boys or at least new to the game guys. I think Calhoun has personality plus and he is hot I would have hired him also. He is definitely the type that could seduce a straight boy or flip a curious boy. I just hope they find some of them.

 

[admin]

The metrics we used are weighted appropriately to account for time and other factors. It's an algorithm that gives us the truest picture we can get of what is resonating with the members. It wasn't neither easy nor cheap to have created, but it has been as close to an accurate guiding light as we can get. I don't think you were inferring that we do.. but just in case... we don't use BTS ratings for any model selection.

We do listen to members in the forum, but there is a handful of very valuable opinions here in the forum that we hear for sure but nothing to the sort of 2,000+ unique people that actively rate individual models post scene performances.

The ratings you guys see are based on someone going to model page and rating the guys just from their model page. The ratings we use are when someone watches a scene and rates each of the performers in that scene individually based on the performance. It's pretty close to what the other shows but more specifically...

Ryan Pitt has a 4.37 based on 2,421 votes.
Ethan Steel has a 4.32 based on 2,180 votes.

So Ryan's ratings are higher than Ethan.. but there are many other factors that are involved in planning a shoot week such as model availability (are they able to take off from their jobs or school), std testing results (we have people not clear every single month), actually showing up (we had a model just last month that didn't get off the plane while we were sitting at the airport waiting), and what other models are in the house they've already worked with. For example, going back to Ryan Pitt as an example.. Ryan had already worked with Blake Ellis which would have cut a scene for each of them. Ryan and Ethan had also worked together which would have cut a scene for Ethan and now Two for Ryan. When the guys come out, they want to work every day. If two guys in the house have already worked together then they both sit idle for a day and they get very "funny" about that kind of thing.

There are a lot of moving parts to getting a working schedule. I'll ask Sha if he is at liberty to say anything about Ryan. I have no knowledge of him specifically since I have nothing to do with the model recruiting and scheduling.

Ps. I just wanted to say that nothing I said in this post or my prior post was meant from a place of anything other than authenticity and trying to share insights into our business strategy. Being dismissive was the furthest place from where that post came from. I know you don't know me, but the "accept it or leave" attitude ascribed isn't one that my friends or coworkers apply to me. My Eeneagram type is a 9 which is that of peacemaker. My 16 personalities type is Diplomat or Mediator... "accept it or leave" is the antithesis of who I am

 

[Jaybifla]

The metrics we used are weighted appropriately to account for time and other factors. It's an algorithm that gives us the truest picture we can get of what is resonating with the members. It wasn't neither easy nor cheap to have created, but it has been as close to an accurate guiding light as we can get. I don't think you were inferring that we do.. but just in case... we don't use BTS ratings for any model selection.

We do listen to members in the forum, but there is a handful of very valuable opinions here in the forum that we hear for sure but nothing to the sort of 2,000+ unique people that actively rate individual models post scene performances.

The ratings you guys see are based on someone going to model page and rating the guys just from their model page. The ratings we use are when someone watches a scene and rates each of the performers in that scene individually based on the performance. It's pretty close to what the other shows but more specifically...

Ryan Pitt has a 4.37 based on 2,421 votes.
Ethan Steel has a 4.32 based on 2,180 votes.

So Ryan's ratings are higher than Ethan.. but there are many other factors that are involved in planning a shoot week such as model availability (are they able to take off from their jobs or school), std testing results (we have people not clear every single month), actually showing up (we had a model just last month that didn't get off the plane while we were sitting at the airport waiting), and what other models are in the house they've already worked with. For example, going back to Ryan Pitt as an example.. Ryan had already worked with Blake Ellis which would have cut a scene for each of them. Ryan and Ethan had also worked together which would have cut a scene for Ethan and now Two for Ryan. When the guys come out, they want to work every day. If two guys in the house have already worked together then they both sit idle for a day and they get very "funny" about that kind of thing.

There are a lot of moving parts to getting a working schedule. I'll ask Sha if he is at liberty to say anything about Ryan. I have no knowledge of him specifically since I have nothing to do with the model recruiting and scheduling.

Ps. I just wanted to say that nothing I said in this post or my prior post was meant from a place of anything other than authenticity and trying to share insights into our business strategy. Being dismissive was the furthest place from where that post came from. I know you don't know me, but the "accept it or leave" attitude ascribed isn't one that my friends or coworkers apply to me. My Eeneagram type is a 9 which is that of peacemaker. My 16 personalities type is Diplomat or Mediator... "accept it or leave" is the antithesis of who I am

I was only mentioning the BTS as an example of how the rating system is a bust, imo. Unless there is a thread specifically about a BTS, many members tend to forget about them because they’re now in a completely different section and they’re never a part of the coming soon section. So if only one person ever saw one of those scenes and gave it a 5, that scene would then have a 5 and be the highest rated BTS of the BTS section. Same with models and scenes.....I know there are way more than one person rating, but there are a lot less people rating any scene or model than there were 8-15 years ago.
Also 3 months ago I mentioned that most of my ratings were missing. I guess no one thought it was important enough to find out why, because no one ever responded about it. I asked and a couple of people said the same, but I guess since it wasn’t a lot there wasn’t anything else said about it. So I stopped using the rating system, because I don’t trust it. Why would I give 5 stars to a model that doesn’t need it and then find out the 5 stars I gave to another model who did need it are missing. And scenes too. 85% of my ratings were missing, and no I hadn’t cancelled or changed usernames.
And everyone knows that I can tell you who was at every shoot week. I don’t ever recall Ethan Steel and Ryan Pitt at the same shoot week. Ethan and Ryan Parks maybe, but not Ryan Pitt. And I’m sure there are more times than not when there are models that have already worked together. Such as the shoot week when Max Jay had already worked with Richie and Sky had already worked with Richie.
I’m not even going to say anything further, because it’ll just be a back n forth. I know you guys are doing the best you can to keep things afloat, but this thread was to express why people think the site is taking a downturn in quality. People are trying t tell you guys what they like and don’t like and a numbers system is the reason we’re given. One reason I joined this site was because I could count on seeing quality talent that I couldn’t find anywhere else, and that’s just not the case lately.
I wish you guys the very best and send love your way, but I think I’m just going to walk away at this point.

 

[petefromsaintpete]

The metrics we used are weighted appropriately to account for time and other factors. It's an algorithm that gives us the truest picture we can get of what is resonating with the members. It wasn't neither easy nor cheap to have created, but it has been as close to an accurate guiding light as we can get. I don't think you were inferring that we do.. but just in case... we don't use BTS ratings for any model selection.

We do listen to members in the forum, but there is a handful of very valuable opinions here in the forum that we hear for sure but nothing to the sort of 2,000+ unique people that actively rate individual models post scene performances.

The ratings you guys see are based on someone going to model page and rating the guys just from their model page. The ratings we use are when someone watches a scene and rates each of the performers in that scene individually based on the performance. It's pretty close to what the other shows but more specifically...

Ryan Pitt has a 4.37 based on 2,421 votes.
Ethan Steel has a 4.32 based on 2,180 votes.

So Ryan's ratings are higher than Ethan.. but there are many other factors that are involved in planning a shoot week such as model availability (are they able to take off from their jobs or school), std testing results (we have people not clear every single month), actually showing up (we had a model just last month that didn't get off the plane while we were sitting at the airport waiting), and what other models are in the house they've already worked with. For example, going back to Ryan Pitt as an example.. Ryan had already worked with Blake Ellis which would have cut a scene for each of them. Ryan and Ethan had also worked together which would have cut a scene for Ethan and now Two for Ryan. When the guys come out, they want to work every day. If two guys in the house have already worked together then they both sit idle for a day and they get very "funny" about that kind of thing.

There are a lot of moving parts to getting a working schedule. I'll ask Sha if he is at liberty to say anything about Ryan. I have no knowledge of him specifically since I have nothing to do with the model recruiting and scheduling.

Ps. I just wanted to say that nothing I said in this post or my prior post was meant from a place of anything other than authenticity and trying to share insights into our business strategy. Being dismissive was the furthest place from where that post came from. I know you don't know me, but the "accept it or leave" attitude ascribed isn't one that my friends or coworkers apply to me. My Eeneagram type is a 9 which is that of peacemaker. My 16 personalities type is Diplomat or Mediator... "accept it or leave" is the antithesis of who I am

Bryce, I agreed with everything you wrote until you came to the part, where you said about models missing out on scenes because they had already worked together, leading to them missing out on scenes. Most of the models like Ryan Pitt, attempt to be versatile. We have had some very hot scenes, as Rep states as revenge sex. I understand about trying to not repeat, but some of us would enjoy seeing models meet again.
I am not going to call out a model for not being versatile, but if it meant one who is versatile is left on the sideline, how would that be fair? I thank you for reaching out to us, I thank you for that. But I have to take issue for that logic of models not meeting again because of previous meetings.

 

[admin]

But I have to take issue for that logic of models not meeting again because of previous meetings.

That logic actually comes not from something we invented but from feedback we get. When we pair two models together who have worked together, we get multiple feedback streams to our detriment. Not only do we get actual feedback from support tickets but we can literally watch cancelations increase. Our billers also give us reports on feedback they receive. When you cancel your membership, a representative will ask for feedback on why the membership is being canceled and we learned that unless we create a 3-way with a new participant, that members leave when we do re-pairings.

It's a very fine line we try to walk. The answer to the question is often much more complicated that can easily be stated in the forum. I really appreciate the candid feedback, it's all helpful and part of the soup that goes into setting the business rules that keep the lights on. We value that feedback for sure. But for example.. the week with Max, Richie and Sky wasn't planned in advance. We had a no show and had to get Max in last minute. Sha must have made at least 4 or 5 calls and offers to find someone to keep us from losing upwards of 5 scenes that week. Luckily Max was available and lived near a testing facility in a large enough city we could get same day results. I don't recall all the details, but please know we aren't out here winging this after 22 total years in this industry. There is a rhyme and reason for things. We don't get it right everytime, but like ya'lll said... we really are doing the best we can in a very unusual profession fraught with some very interesting and nonconforming variables

Anway.. you all have my attention. What do you want to see us do? Give me your wish lists. I'm truly listening and am happy to go to bat and run it up the flagpole.

 

[petefromsaintpete]

Thank you again for your response. It shows that you care.

 

[mikeyank]

Anway.. you all have my attention. What do you want to see us do? Give me your wish lists. I'm truly listening and am happy to go to bat and run it up the flagpole.

I'd just like to remind you that there are still a few fans remaining from the older versions of BSB1 with David filming the scenes and BSB2 when Clay took over. I understand that young guys today have a different outlook on sexuality from when you were a young man Bryce and certainly different from when I was young. However Adam Baer and Johnny Forza and Ayden Troy are not really from a totally different generation. And my suspicion is that ALL Broke Straight Boys models going back to the earliest days on David's futon had at least some curiosity about gay sex or they never would have chosen performing on this site as a way to earn money. But the three I mentioned as well as many, many others were all brand new to the industry and we the fans here got to see their first times on film or perhaps in life doing all the things that they did for our pleasure. And they all had the straight vibe that turns me on and I would assume many who join a site called Broke "Straight" Boys. That is not the case today with the majority of new models bought to the site.

And so what I would like is for you guys to at least occasionally give us an inexperienced in gay porn and perhaps in life model. For me, the journey and the progression, (or lack of progression) is what turns me on. That is why I thank Sha for giving Ethan Steel another shot at filming scenes here. My hope is that he remain true to his principles and does not bottom, but we don't know and that makes it interesting to watch. When a guy has been fucked on multiple sites before Broke Straight Boys, there is no mystery.

One final point regarding ratings. The newer scenes with the high ratings you mentioned have many less votes than the scene released years ago and so it is easier to get a high model or scene rating when there are less votes being counted. Also, it only makes sense that the majority of current membership likes the "recycled twinks" and give them high ratings. If I were here just for the current porn, I would have quit a long time ago as many of my fellow forumites from before have done. But perhaps to sprinkle in an Ethan Steel type every so often might attract some former members back or even draw some new people who share my fetish for young straight guys dipping their proverbial toes into the water for the first time. That is my wish list as you requested.