Damiens BTS

[PascalBrutal]

Thanks for addressing some of my misgivings directly.

The interview is what it is. It shows a conflicted young man who is still trying to find himself, but is on his way.

I wouldn't call the finished product you put up only a cold, just-the-fact "interview" though, it's more of a portrait of an unhappy young man at a certain moment in his life. You say it yourself : it wanted to highlight the contradictions that lie between the porn persona and the dissatisfied real-life "Damien Kyle". It had a point of view, a story to tell that obviously was chosen before or during editing. This is a highly subjective view point on someone with some pretty obvious editing strategies. I hope that the models who go through with it realize that.

Kinda like the rumors that have been on the forums about him, one day he has quit and the next he hasn't.

Which could easily have been squashed by TPTB taking 30 sec to post an update like some have highlighted on other threads. But nobody on the staff had the time. And it made for such good forum drama...

This video echos his every day life and his journey into becoming the best he can be. Damien was especially brave in this interview and I think it showed a young man who has come from a tough beginning, to a man who will do what he has to in order to survive. He chose a path that wasn't crime (he easily could have) and is becoming a better person every day. Smoking pot--it's legal here and we have strict rules about it being nowhere near the house.

Again why highlight the pot smoking here? Nobody had brought it up on the thread before you did... I didn't have any problem with it, nor the drinking, if not underage. I can understand that some (most?) models are rabble rousers and need to be kept in check while in the studio (while I still can't understand how you can have a whole episode of the would-be series dedicated to models trashing the house without you stepping in to put an end to it. Unless ta da dum... you and TPTB felt it would make for a good TV episode and decided to take a step back early that evening), but you sometimes seem to go out of your way to highlight those behaviors.

I understand that the "he could be a real bad boy if we weren't there" narrative that you (or TPTB?) have chosen for Damien Kyle is a compelling one. But it's not entirely the objective truth, just the one you have chosen to present to the subscribers.

(...) There are no hidden agendas in these videos. The goal is to give you a no holds barred look into our models and the staff in order to give our members a look into our Broke Straight Boys family. No other site does that.

But there is a point of view, from whomever is filming this to whom is in charge of editing it. It sounds to me like Damien Kyle is the victim of the dreaded 'asshole edit' that is part and parcel of any self-respecting reality TV project.

I hope for instance that the Sha-dedicated portrait goes as much for the jugular over his need for counseling and group sessions... Will there be one dedicated to you as well? I hope Damien Kyle is not in charge of editing it after he has seen this one.

It's no secret that Damien really used to work my nerves in the beginning.(...)

Maybe some of those feelings were still lingering on while you were editing this piece?

Just like I can't let go of the "I'm not attracted to black people" comment in the trailer when thinking about Damien Kyle from now on. I am also deeply subjective and I understand not everybody is bothered by it. But I can't help but think that it colored some the unhappy interactions that Another1 seems to have had with Damien Kyle.

I am in no way demanding any wishy-washy work from you on those bts pieces either. That would be boring as others have said before.

However much I seem to berate you in these posts, it is great that you and TPTB are allowing part of the veil to be lifted on the models and the whole Broke Straight Boys operation. It takes real guts, if objectivity is to be applied all around.

 

[mikeyank]

PascalBrutal, you make some excellent points and I do like the way you think. And the thing that I agreed with the most in your post was this comment.

"Kinda like the rumors that have been on the forums about him, one day he has quit and the next he hasn't. "

Which could easily have been squashed by TPTB taking 30 sec to post an update like some have highlighted on other threads. But nobody on the staff had the time. And it made for such good forum drama...

I was thinking the exact same thing when I read Damian Christopher's comment. I definitely like the way you thing Pascal. You seem to have a knack for getting to the crux of a situation. Excellent post!!!

 

[tampa24]

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Damien!

It's so good to see you posting again.

 

[tampa24]

It's no secret that Damien really used to work my nerves in the beginning. However, the day we made this video made me want to know him more and also protect him from all the bad things people would say about him as a result of him being so honest. That day, we became friends. I hope you all like him better and give him a chance to be who he is.

That's probably my favorite part of your post Damian. I'm glad that once you could see part of the prism through which he views his reality (based on his own life experiences up to this point), that you gained much more empathy (and perhaps even respect) for him.

 

[DChristopher]

Thanks for addressing some of my misgivings directly.



I wouldn't call the finished product you put up only a cold, just-the-fact "interview" though, it's more of a portrait of an unhappy young man at a certain moment in his life. You say it yourself : it wanted to highlight the contradictions that lie between the porn persona and the dissatisfied real-life "Damien Kyle". It had a point of view, a story to tell that obviously was chosen before or during editing. This is a highly subjective view point on someone with some pretty obvious editing strategies. I hope that the models who go through with it realize that.



Which could easily have been squashed by TPTB taking 30 sec to post an update like some have highlighted on other threads. But nobody on the staff had the time. And it made for such good forum drama...



Again why highlight the pot smoking here? Nobody had brought it up on the thread before you did... I didn't have any problem with it, nor the drinking, if not underage. I can understand that some (most?) models are rabble rousers and need to be kept in check while in the studio (while I still can't understand how you can have a whole episode of the would-be series dedicated to models trashing the house without you stepping in to put an end to it. Unless ta da dum... you and TPTB felt it would make for a good TV episode and decided to take a step back early that evening), but you sometimes seem to go out of your way to highlight those behaviors.

I understand that the "he could be a real bad boy if we weren't there" narrative that you (or TPTB?) have chosen for Damien Kyle is a compelling one. But it's not entirely the objective truth, just the one you have chosen to present to the subscribers.



But there is a point of view, from whomever is filming this to whom is in charge of editing it. It sounds to me like Damien Kyle is the victim of the dreaded 'asshole edit' that is part and parcel of any self-respecting reality TV project.

I hope for instance that the Sha-dedicated portrait goes as much for the jugular over his need for counseling and group sessions... Will there be one dedicated to you as well? I hope Damien Kyle is not in charge of editing it after he has seen this one.



Maybe some of those feelings were still lingering on while you were editing this piece?

Just like I can't let go of the "I'm not attracted to black people" comment in the trailer when thinking about Damien Kyle from now on. I am also deeply subjective and I understand not everybody is bothered by it. But I can't help but think that it colored some the unhappy interactions that Another1 seems to have had with Damien Kyle.

I am in no way demanding any wishy-washy work from you on those bts pieces either. That would be boring as others have said before.

However much I seem to berate you in these posts, it is great that you and TPTB are allowing part of the veil to be lifted on the models and the whole Broke Straight Boys operation. It takes real guts, if objectivity is to be applied all around.

Hi,

I appreciate your comments. Very well thought out. It’s perfectly normal to mentally rehash every detail of an interview in order to discern its purpose. Again, there was no agenda in putting this piece together. Some love it, and others will pick it apart and form their own opinions about the person being interviewed and why it was done (and the interviewers). We don't approach these interviews with a purpose. The models are free to share what they want. When presenting interviews with our models, we are often surprised at their responses and always ask if they are o.k. with the world knowing their responses. If not, we don't air it. The process is also a great way for us to get to know that particular model.

There was a fan that berated Damien on his FB fan page about drinking and drugs and that's why I addressed it. Regarding taking 30 secs to refute a rumor, I don't read the forums that often and usually not until the end of the day. We have a dedicated social media response plan that guides our social-media use. That requires more than a 30 sec response. With any PR, or social media use, you must resist the urge to react right away. Instead, our approach is to take a deep breath and think about what options exist. Also, not all posts benefit from a response.

As far as feeling berated by your posts, you don't know me and I don't know you. Social media is often a double-edged sword: it can be an effective platform that elevates your profile, but it also exposes you to direct feedback, including negative comments or false information.In the past, traditional media typically filtered mass messages to particular audiences, limiting the likelihood of harm as well as its effects. Now, anyone is a publisher to unlimited, worldwide audiences, without nearly as many filters. People can incorrectly take a comment, or video, you make out of context ; they can share hurtful opinions; or expose a truth that is less than flattering online. Or people can just be downright mean. I always carry myself in a professional manner as a result of my upbringing, education, and professional experiences. If we ever have the chance to meet, I'm sure it would be pleasant.

Overall, in joining the forum, and participating in various discussions, my aim was to build strong relationships with the members in order to really hear what you have to say and help change things that we could do better. I've learned that the larger your presence, the more likely you are exposing yourself to feedback – both positive and negative. Even if I haven’t built out my social-media presence, I run the risk of being exposed to one of social media’s dark sides: the personal attack. Remember this though, I respond with respect and professionalism with everything that I do and expect the same.

I'm mixed race myself. Damien's comment initially bothered me (you'll see my reaction on the show), it only made me want to show this young man that all races are beautiful in their own way. I got over it and moved on.

~DC

 

[peterh6308]

All he said was he wasn't attracted to black men. I'm mixed Mexican and Native American, and I'm not atrracted to either one of them, or black men or Asian. I like white guys and have only dated them. I feel his comment was blown out of porportion.

 

[johnny]

All he said was he wasn't attracted to black men. I'm mixed Mexican and Native American, and I'm not atrracted to either one of them, or black men or Asian. I like white guys and have only dated them. I feel his comment was blown out of porportion.

Nice post peterh. And it only took three sentences for you to get it across. And I think we all got it. Getting so tired of hearing you will see what we mean on the TV show.
We and the models may be to old to see by the time that happens.

 

[PascalBrutal]

PascalBrutal, you make some excellent points and I do like the way you think. And the thing that I agreed with the most in your post was this comment.

Thanks for the compliment!

I've realized that many of my posts have been about DC's work (and Jimmy's booty getting poked by the great Colby Jansen): the trailer and what I felt were inflammatory comments in it, the puzzling Beach Blanket Bingo treatment for Vadim Black's return and now the Damien Kyle portrait. I am glad that DC seems to be taking it in good strides:

(...)The models are free to share what they want. When presenting interviews with our models, we are often surprised at their responses and always ask if they are o.k. with the world knowing their responses. If not, we don't air it.

That's what I am most afraid of: that people on the site do not realize all these extra documents are very partial in what they present as a final product. Only you and the models know the 'real' truth. I feel that nobody should judge a model following one of these pieces, because they cannot represent reality, either because they are subjective, consciously or not, or because some key elements have been redacted (in the interest of the model or Blue Media's).

As far as feeling berated by your posts, you don't know me and I don't know you. (...) I always carry myself in a professional manner as a result of my upbringing, education, and professional experiences. If we ever have the chance to meet, I'm sure it would be pleasant.

I'd probably talk your ears off about editing but that's because it's one of my pet peeves in porn! But whatever the tone of my comments, be assured that I'll always be critical of your output, not yourself as a person. Heck I might be complimentary sometimes.

I'm mixed race myself. Damien's comment initially bothered me (you'll see my reaction on the show), it only made me want to show this young man that all races are beautiful in their own way. I got over it and moved on.

I'm secretly wishing we see you smack him about the head if you are the MOC that's sitting right next to him in that segment, to be quite honest...

 

[joninliverton]

All he said was he wasn't attracted to black men. I'm mixed Mexican and Native American, and I'm not atrracted to either one of them, or black men or Asian. I like white guys and have only dated them. I feel his comment was blown out of porportion.

There is a thread about such a comment and it went on for ages. Whilst I stated on that thread that I was not attracted to black men, there have been a few that have come up on my Grindr horizon and wow they've been hot. So I take back what I said. However, I could not date a Chinese or similar featured guy. No offence.

 

[jasonaz]

OK, I'm going to show my ignorance, what the heck is TPTB??​

 

[Leedwb]

Damien, although I never said a word on here, I owe you an apology - I'm sorry. I have judged many of your actions in my mind as irksome, childish, etc. and I should not have done so. I have dealt with depression for some 10 years now and I should have seen some of the signs. I lost my last two brothers 6 months apart and that sent me reeling, I was dealing with a medical condition at the same time and was looking at spinal surgery so, I went into a depression that I'm still working with. BUT, I'm working with it. I don't know you and you don't know me and I'm sure we will never meet in person but I will make this small offer. If you do need to talk, I'm non-judgmental and have seen a lot. I'm not a trained "counselor" but I have excellent listening ears and pretty big shoulders. I really enjoyed the video you posted, that put words to so many of my own feelings - that was great. Anyway, great to have you back and I wish you well.

 

[another1]

the powers that be (TPTB)

 

[joninliverton]

OK, I'm going to show my ignorance, what the heck is TPTB??​

LOL Jason, I was wondering the same, but didn't want to seem dumb. This is the first time ever that I have seen TPTB, but I guess it was TPTB who started it, so LIB.

 

[johnny]

the powers that be (TPTB)

OK, I'm going to show my ignorance, what the heck is TPTB??​

LOL Jason, I was wondering the same, but didn't want to seem dumb. This is the first time ever that I have seen TPTB, but I guess it was TPTB who started it, so LIB.

Ha ha ha . I new it, I new it. That johnny is getting so smart.lol..lol...xoxo

 

[danleeh1984]

OK, I'm going to show my ignorance, what the heck is TPTB??​

thank you for asking as its been driving me mad trying to work it out, I didnt want to ask in case it was so obvious my level of thickness would go through the roof. Dan x

 

[danleeh1984]

Ha ha ha . I new it, I new it. That johnny is getting so smart.lol..lol...xoxo

I think I need to start taking lessons from you then my freind as this one whent right over my head. Dan x

 

[Damien Kyle]

I think I need to start taking lessons from you then my freind as this one whent right over my head. Dan x

Dan!!!! Where are you buddy everyone miss's u!

 

[peterh6308]

Dan!!!! Where are you buddy everyone miss's u!

You don't worry about Dan, you just make sure I'm okay boy!!! lol

 

[Damien Kyle]

You don't worry about Dan, you just make sure I'm okay boy!!! lol

U better be ok! Ive seen u posting! I havnt seen dan post at all recently :/

 

[johnny]

You don't worry about Dan, you just make sure I'm okay boy!!! lol

Oh we all know your ok.Your off to the Big Apple soon. Just wanted to make a post. Not sure where? Seems like you all had a nice day.
Good to come home from work and see a nice friendly Forum. No Doctor, No hateful posts.
Good to see Damien posting and tampa back.
Damien hope all good with You and Paul. Best buds very important. Hard to find. Anyway just nice to see
the forum in a good mood. That's All....johnny