Damiens BTS

[peterh6308]

WOW!!! I just love this kid a little more now. Damien you have always been up front and honest, that is a traight I hope you never lose.

 

[johnny]

WOW!!! I just love this kid a little more now. Damien you have always been up front and honest, that is a traight I hope you never lose.

I Love Damien.He has become more physically Beautiful since this was filmed.He can be a bit of a tiny hot head.lol
But that's one of the things I like about him.He Babbles..Just like me.I follow him on fB.He seems happier now.
He laughs allot.He don't need therapy. He found Paul. Whatever there relationship is.They are a great couple of friends.
And they seem to love each other. How great is that.The funnest thing I saw in a long time was there 80 mile trip.
A MUST SEE.
He is a good little actor. Real glad your back Damien.
You seem to be letting the shit from the past go.I would love to see you interviewed Today.
Behave...You Big Broke Straight Boys Star......A Fan...johnny...

 

[bad4apple]

Dearest Damien, I just want to give you a great big hug of support and love. You are awesome!

 

[Ambivalent]

Hi, Peter, Johnny, and Bad ~

I agree with you: this interview with Damien was very special. And very touching. I was particularly moved by how thoughtful and compassionate and helpful Sha was, in his discussions with Damien. (Hugs, to Sha.)

This interview gave us, I think, a lot better insight into Damien as a person, and why he does some of the things he does - both good, and bad. I have always enjoyed and appreciated Damien's performances; have truly appreciated his postings here, and the stories of his wonderful friendship with Paul; and didn't mind at all about his "leak" of the Broke Straight Boys-TV trailer; but was a little (gently, I hope) critical of his harsh words toward another model, at one point. (I just thought it wasn't nice, or gentlemanly, in the way it all transpired.)

My hope is, though, that that is all in the past. I really feel sorrow for all that Damien has gone through, in his life - and I hope that his Broke Straight Boys family, and fans, are making a difference, and helping him establish a happier and more confident life. Very few of us have been through travails of quite the dimension that Damien has (or his friend Paul) for that matter. To the extent that we can offer love and support and encouragement - - - I think that's a very good thing.

I thought it was interesting that Damien mentioned that the question that vexes and irritates him the most, is: "Are you really straight, or gay?" I thought it was cool that Damien Kyle was so upfront in explaining that he is bisexual, and also talking frankly about his attractions to both men and women. I think that kind of candour goes a long way to quieting all those endless questions. BUT - I would also say to Damien - you should realize that, because questions of sexual identity are so crucial to so many people who view your videos (some will WANT you to be straight, some will WANT you to be gay): you're always going to get them. It is best just to develop your stock response (as given in this video): and give that response when the question arises: and then laugh it off. People will ALWAYS want to know.

I thought it was also interesting that Damien mentioned that one of his LEAST favourite things about being in this business, is that creeps and stalkers abound - and that sometimes you get recognized in a bar or a restaurant, and a "fan" will just NOT leave you alone. Hoping that you are going to go home with him, or something.

I guess I would just say to Damien that, I have a couple of close friends who did the same job you do (one Russian, and straight; and one Canadian, and gay) - and they were pretty big stars in their day, about 20 years ago. (They have since moved on, happily and gracefully, to other careers.) They experienced the very same things with fans, back in that day, and it made ME very angry, to hear about it.

We kind of live in a consumer society, these days - when people think everything is for sale. And that's bad. Personally, I think we need a new ethics and etiquette, in the age of the Internet and widely-available erotic video, as to how viewers of, and correspondents with, models (on sites and boards like this) TREAT the models. I have been a long-time campaigner for the notion that models are NOT "commodities", they are people just like all the rest of us: and that, while they graciously share some intimate moments for their fans' joy and pleasure, that does NOT mean that models become "fair game" for members' advances, let alone products or potential possessions, as some nasty individuals seem to imagine.

I think this is something every member of every erotic site needs to know, and understand. I think most of the people on this board not only know this, but treat the models they appreciate with the highest respect, and regard. But of course there will always be a sub-set of erotic-video consumers who are disrespectful, possessive, or worse - DANGEROUS; or who have ILL DESIGNS upon models.

To models like Damien (and Paul, and others): I would simply say: BE CAREFUL, and BE CAUTIOUS. Especially where media like FB and Twitter are concerned. And take care of yourselves, first. . . you are right to do this, Damien!

On the other hand, Damien: don't let the bad and would-be exploitative people out there ruin the best of this experience, for you. For every jerk and jackass out there, there is a BETH or a MIKE or a TAMPA (and I could name many others on this board, in like fashion): who likes you, cares about you not just as a model, but also as a human being ~ and with whom you can happily and joyfully correspond on this board, or meet at Pride events, KNOWING that you are receiving GENUINE care and admiration and respect, from them.

That's it, that's all. Great interview. And, Damien Kyle, I hope things continue to get better in your life.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXOXO

P.S. May the Lord bless you and keep you, Damien Kyle You're a nice guy, and you matter to us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZN1mryHEnQ

 

[Beth]

Thank you Damien for letting us see more of you...not just the naked bits. Sometimes you just have to say "yep, the juice was worth the squeeze." If not, you know what not to do; life. I hope you'll be posting here again soon.

 

[louis33705]

That was heavy. The last thing I was expecting was to be sitting in front of my computer crying at 5:00 in the morning.

 

[Stripe222]

It was nice to hear the back story on Damien. It's unfortunate that the impact of his upbringing still haunts him so. It's understandable for sure, but it seems there's a great deal of pain and rage that linger from the trauma. It explains much of the bluff and bluster that get him into trouble. I think at heart he's a very nice guy, doing the best he can and is still trying to exorcize the demons of his past. We all have some, but life doesn't dole out equal portions of anything and people like Damien have gotten much more than their fair share.

There are three basic rules in therapy.
1) It's a process.
2) You can't rush the process.
3) If you've been in it over 10 years, it's time to go to Lourdes (Courtesy of Woody Allen).

The same rules apply to life in general and the shitty stuff in particular.

So basically, stay the course you've chosen, work toward goals, get up when you fall down, don't blame others until you're sure you're blameless and then don't blame them anyway, listen (God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason), think twice before you speak and then only say something if it really contributes to the conversation, is necessary or is amusing, ask others about themselves and be interested, stay out of affairs that don't really concern or benefit you, and always, always check your attitude at the door.

Oh, and don't drink the water in Mexico

Damien is a great model and I wish him success and most of all, peace.

 

[fwcoach]

Damien Kyle has long been right at the top of my list as favorite Broke Straight Boys He is a fucking hot porn star! The interview seals the deal even more for me. I still can't figure out what happened to the scoring system that still does not have him in the top 5 or 10. Believe me, Damien, I'm doing all I know to do to get your rating up to where it should be. Keep up the great work here, Damien. I love watching you and especially now that you've bared your soul for us. I think you are totally hot!!

 

[betudidntknow]

It was nice to hear the back story on Damien. It's unfortunate that the impact of his upbringing still haunts him so. It's understandable for sure, but it seems there's a great deal of pain and rage that linger from the trauma. It explains much of the bluff and bluster that get him into trouble. I think at heart he's a very nice guy, doing the best he can and is still trying to exorcize the demons of his past. We all have some, but life doesn't dole out equal portions of anything and people like Damien have gotten much more than their fair share.

There are three basic rules in therapy.
1) It's a process.
2) You can't rush the process.
3) If you've been in it over 10 years, it's time to go to Lourdes (Courtesy of Woody Allen).

The same rules apply to life in general and the shitty stuff in particular.

So basically, stay the course you've chosen, work toward goals, get up when you fall down, don't blame others until you're sure you're blameless and then don't blame them anyway, listen (God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason), think twice before you speak and then only say something if it really contributes to the conversation, is necessary or is amusing, ask others about themselves and be interested, stay out of affairs that don't really concern or benefit you, and always, always check your attitude at the door.

Oh, and don't drink the water in Mexico

Damien is a great model and I wish him success and most of all, peace.

Of all the comments I've read; I really felt this one echo's my thoughts the best! (And I don't/won't feel the need to expound or elaborate any more than that).

I feel that it was Damien Kyle himself that drew my admiration! I wasn't enthralled with his very first performances at all! But, all it took was something the camera was able to capture in his "look of determination" in a scene, for me to "take notice of him and....the rest (as they say, is history). He is who he is and I admire everything about the Person who is a model! He's my "Biscuit" and he will always have a special place in my heart

 

[louis33705]

It was nice to hear the back story on Damien. It's unfortunate that the impact of his upbringing still haunts him so. It's understandable for sure, but it seems there's a great deal of pain and rage that linger from the trauma. It explains much of the bluff and bluster that get him into trouble. I think at heart he's a very nice guy, doing the best he can and is still trying to exorcize the demons of his past. We all have some, but life doesn't dole out equal portions of anything and people like Damien have gotten much more than their fair share.

There are three basic rules in therapy.
1) It's a process.
2) You can't rush the process.
3) If you've been in it over 10 years, it's time to go to Lourdes (Courtesy of Woody Allen).

The same rules apply to life in general and the shitty stuff in particular.

So basically, stay the course you've chosen, work toward goals, get up when you fall down, don't blame others until you're sure you're blameless and then don't blame them anyway, listen (God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason), think twice before you speak and then only say something if it really contributes to the conversation, is necessary or is amusing, ask others about themselves and be interested, stay out of affairs that don't really concern or benefit you, and always, always check your attitude at the door.

Oh, and don't drink the water in Mexico

Damien is a great model and I wish him success and most of all, peace.

Damn, fuckn damn. Do you mind if I copy your words and keep them for future reference?

What you wrote was so true, heartfelt and eloquent. Thank you.

Louis

 

[johnny]

Of all the comments I've read; I really felt this one echo's my thoughts the best! (And I don't/won't feel the need to expound or elaborate any more than that).

I feel that it was Damien Kyle himself that drew my admiration! I wasn't enthralled with his very first performances at all! But, all it took was something the camera was able to capture in his "look of determination" in a scene, for me to "take notice of him and....the rest (as they say, is history). He is who he is and I admire everything about the Person who is a model! He's my "Biscuit" and he will always have a special place in my heart

Dear betu
Just have to say.I really like your post...xoxo

 

[tampa24]

On the other hand, Damien: don't let the bad and would-be exploitative people out there ruin the best of this experience, for you. For every jerk and jackass out there, there is a BETH or a MIKE or a TAMPA (and I could name many others on this board, in like fashion): who likes you, cares about you not just as a model, but also as a human being ~ and with whom you can happily and joyfully correspond on this board, or meet at Pride events, KNOWING that you are receiving GENUINE care and admiration and respect, from them.

Wow! At the risk of sounding self-serving, I want to thank you for those comments Ambi. They are so accurate. Of course those same sentiments apply equally to many other members both in the forum and the general membership. (Not just the three people mentioned by name.) Not all of us are creepers or stalkers who assume that just because the models work in adult films, that they will gladly render sexual favors to anyone with a pulse. There are plenty of us who would or do treat the models in person with great respect and dignity. Not everyone is out looking to get something for nothing from them...or even for a buck.

 

[danleeh1984]

I just watched the bts and I was incredibly touched and moved with damiens honesty about his past and what he has had to go through in his life. I think its incredible at what an amazing person Damien has become as to some people they may have taken the easy option and followed what they witnessed or what's happened to their parents but Damien is a completely different person to any of that. He could of turned to crime to make a living and he could of even turned to drugs and alcohol like he has witnessed from his mother but he didn't. Yes he smokes weed but so what as where he lives its completely legal to do So and I bet there are a lot of people there that do it (I know if it was legal here I would use it without a doubt as it would relieve some of the pain and stress). He could of not worked but he decided to go in to the porn business to earn money like so many people have done (and I can imagine alto of us would love to do) and he has made a name for himself because of his commitment to his work and his fans and I know that I would be proud to have him in my family as a brother and I mean that with my hand on my heart.

So Damien if you read this I just want to say thank you for becoming the amazing person that you are now and I hope that you can continue the way you are going and make all of your fans even more prouder then we are now.
Much love and respect to you Damien. Dan x

 

[joninliverton]

If we all brought our life stories to the forum, then the internet would flood with tears. Everyone has tough calls to make, and every person on this forum knows someone or indeed themselves who has had hard times. A few like Louis decide to mention it on the the site, others decide to keep it to themselves, because it is, at the end of the day, very private.

However, when models decide to bring it to the fore, then I suspect it is all to do with their popularity or lack of it. Enough said.

 

[elyot1]

If we all brought our life stories to the forum, then the internet would flood with tears. Everyone has tough calls to make, and every person on this forum knows someone or indeed themselves who has had hard times. A few like Louis decide to mention it on the the site, others decide to keep it to themselves, because it is, at the end of the day, very private.

However, when models decide to bring it to the fore, then I suspect it is all to do with their popularity or lack of it. Enough said.

I have to agree with you.

 

[danleeh1984]

If we all brought our life stories to the forum, then the internet would flood with tears. Everyone has tough calls to make, and every person on this forum knows someone or indeed themselves who has had hard times. A few like Louis decide to mention it on the the site, others decide to keep it to themselves, because it is, at the end of the day, very private.

However, when models decide to bring it to the fore, then I suspect it is all to do with their popularity or lack of it. Enough said.

that's very cold Jon as he didn't have to do it and I doubt he would of asked to share all of his painfull memories to everyone as after all what gets put on this site is up to the management and I'd expect that they asked them if they would be willing to do it. Also you could tell how painfull it was for him to relive what happened in his life but I think it allows us to know him better and I for 1 commend Damien for telling his life story and for sharing what he had to go through to bring him to how he is today. Dan

 

[PascalBrutal]

I'm sure Damien Kyle begged to have this confessional video shot by TPTB and he probably hacked into the server to put it up himself just like he did "leak" the trailer for the series-that-may-never-be... That sounds like such a realistic scenario, there couldn't be another explanation, guys.

What irritated me in the finished video are the very conflicting statements Damien Kyle kept making: "I always said I was bi" then "I'm straight" followed by "I'm bi" again... We also heard "I love my fans" "I don't want to meet the fans" while hanging at the back during Pride. It sounded like a very disingenuous piece of editing from whomever did that. Like it went out of its way to make us understand that seemingly anything that comes out of Damien Kyle's mouth can't be trusted...

I don't know if that's true or not but the finished video seemed to want to hide its true intentions behind a veil of sympathy.

 

[Ambivalent]

Wow! At the risk of sounding self-serving, I want to thank you for those comments Ambi. They are so accurate. Of course those same sentiments apply equally to many other members both in the forum and the general membership. (Not just the three people mentioned by name.) Not all of us are creepers or stalkers who assume that just because the models work in adult films, that they will gladly render sexual favors to anyone with a pulse. There are plenty of us who would or do treat the models in person with great respect and dignity. Not everyone is out looking to get something for nothing from them...or even for a buck.

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Tampa,

I put this forth because I think it is important for models like Damien Kyle to both:
1.) Know that there are jerks and dangerous people out there, and that it is important for them to beware of such people; but, also,
2.) Know that there are also some kind and good people out there, who care about them, unselfishly.

I have kind of seen both sides of the equation, through the eyes of a couple of model-friends.

Maybe you know of the site called the "boyscondo", from Toronto, Canada? It was once very VERY good, but now, I think, is a shadow of its former self. A decade ago, it was also intimately linked to the paysite, "Flirt-for-Free", which I think still exists.

In its heyday, the boyscondo was one of the best sites out there, and a harbor from which many great models sailed forth - to companies like Falcon, and I think Michael Lucas, but certainly, several, SEVERAL models, to BSB1. And, in its day, it was quite something - a voyeur/obsessive's dream. . . because the guys lived in the house, and there were cameras in the living-room, kitchen, dining-room, shower, and bedrooms. If you loved a model, you could actually spend ALL DAY with him. . . and even look in on his "dates" on a Saturday night! (Poor Damien Kyle, if he is reading this, I'm sure he is thinking this is creepy as HELL. And he's probably right!)

But it WAS very popular, for a time. What killed THAT business model, were the extended costs of housing the models, feeding them daily, and keeping them under contract for such an extended period of time. The rise of self-directed sites, like the ones we all know about, meant that people could get a glimpse of that "reality", without paying so much, OR hanging in there for such a long period of time. Just to see something happen.

Anyway, the deal at that site was: the guys lived in the condo - and whenever they weren't at work or school, they were there, and you could see them. Each of them had regular shows during the day, which members could see as part of their subscription. And then, later at night, these models would be assigned shows on "Flirt-for-Free" (which was anything but free): on a rotating basis. Often, those shows were scheduled from midnight, to 4:00 a.m.

It is a fact, Tampa, that I got really close to one of the guys on that site, and he became a friend. He was a student in literature; he saw that I had some experience in writing; and he asked me for some coaching, on writing - right in the live chat - LOL! And I felt a real affection for him.

And then he said to me, "A", you are so kind and comforting and reassuring to me. . . do you think you could come to some of my late-night chats, just to CHEER ME UP? I don't want you to tip, or pay, or anything - - - I would just be SO HAPPY to have someone in my chat who REALLY CARES ABOUT ME."

And so, Tampa. . . ONLY I would be CRAZY ENOUGH to do this, and I am TOO OLD to do it, now. . . but for just about three or four years, a decade or more ago: I made out a calendar, with my friend's F4F schedule, and set my ALARM - getting up at all hours of the night - just to keep him company. EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. I couldn't and wouldn't do that for anyone, ever again. . . but having lived through HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of hours of what a model goes through, when faced with real-live, horny fans. . . I am glad I DID IT. Because it was a real learning experience. And I know why my friend wanted me to be there, for him.

Because, honestly. . . it was a f***ing ZOO. Yes, there were quite a large number (a substantial minority) of REALLY NICE PEOPLE - just like on this board. And it was awesome and sweet to talk to those people, in a live chat.

BUT, there were also, dozens and dozens of people who would just flit in and out, of a live chat, like that, saying to my friend: "Stand on your HEAD, so your balls hang down!" "Stick that TELEPHONE RECEIVER up your A**!" "Crawl on your BELLY, and grunt like a PIGLET!" And, inordinate cascades of ridiculous shit, like that.

Tampa, once I got there, I knew why my friend needed me there. I had two important functions:
1.) In the long, dreary times, when no one was paying him for anything, I was just there to be his friend - and entertain him and keep his spirits up. He was a student of literature, and so I would tell him stories about Proust or Nabokov or what-have-you, and he was happy as a clam.
2.) When those BAD people came along - asking him to do odd and (for him) embarrassing things: and making bad and weird imprecations, too ("You're ugly!" "You're a fucking faggot!" "I hope you die of AIDS, unless you FIST YOURSELF, RIGHT NOW!") ~ MY JOB was to PROTECT MY FRIEND, with all the skills I could muster.

That involved rallying the GOOD people in the room, to the cause of decency; mocking the BAD people gently, initially: in a way that amused my friend and lifted his spirits, and caused the NICE people in the room to laugh the BAD people to scorn, and induce them either to smarten up, or leave; and, finally, if the BAD people wouldn't stop BEING BAD, my job was to FORCE THEM to LEAVE, through sheer excoriation, or the PRECISE, DELIBERATE, impalement of their psyches, at the weakest possible point.

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So, yes: believe it or not, I worked for an erotic video-site too, and VERY DILIGENTLY, for three-and-a-half to four YEARS. (Though I did it for FREE, and out of love for a friend.) For all that time, I was on call, every day, from supper-time, till closing, at 4:00 a.m. And, Tampa, that experience has shaped my sense of what models go through, INDELIBLY.

I have SEEN how cruel the punters can be. I have SEEN how they treat some of the sweetest and loveliest young men on earth, like CATTLE. I have SEEN how, in the throes of sexual excitement, people are sometimes willing to insult, disparage, and HURT another human being - simply to GET OFF ~ and I have NO DOUBT that some of those people, are dangerous. So, I think, Damien Kyle is RIGHT, to be wary.

However, that exhausting and terrible experience also taught me that there are a LOT of GOOD and KIND and DECENT people, out there, too. My hope for Damien Kyle - after all the troubles he has had - is that he is able to sift the wheat, from the chaff. So he can appreciate the GOOD parts of his experience as a model, and blow the rest. . . away.

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Tampa, as far as me and my friend, the Canadian model - we became very close, and remain close. Though we are both gay, and I thought he was beautiful, I was not his type, physically; and he was not mine, emotionally. There was never anything physical, between us. But we have a wonderful friendship - we are close, and our families are close now, as well. We talk frequently, and he has been to visit me many times.

So, though I couldn't do it again (ever): I don't regret at all, those late, late nights, DEFENDING my friend, the model. That experience has changed my view of erotic sites completely, and forever.

I would say to everyone: models are human beings, just like we are. They take a HUGE risk by sharing, with us. They are not "products", or "commodities", or "shows", whom anyone is entitled to slag off for the grand price of $40 a month, or whatever it is, now. Every one of our models has a mind, and a heart, and a family to care about, and wakes up WORRIED in the morning, about how to pay the bills, and whether his girlfriend or boyfriend still loves him, and how, simply, to keep life going. Just like ALL of US DO.

So, let's be gentle, to each and every one of our models. I know this is a space for comment and critique, and that's fair. But let's be as kind, and generous, as civilized, as we can be. . . to these young men who are putting it all on the line for us.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO

P.S. And YES, Damien, while there are a LOT of bad people in the world - there are also a lot of genuinely nice people, who truly do care about you.

*Brahms' Intermezzo, Opus 118, No. 2. I don't know quite why I am adding this, as a postscript, but somehow, the music expresses perfectly how I feel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h4Re5WBEAc

(Sorry for typo's.)

 

[jasonaz]

][U]I'm sure[/U] Damien Kyle begged to have this confessional video shot by TPTB and he probably hacked into the server to put it up himself just like he did "leak" the trailer for the series-that-may-never-be... That sounds like such a realistic scenario, there couldn't be another explanation, guys.


What irritated me in the finished video are the very conflicting statements Damien Kyle kept making: "I always said I was bi" then "I'm straight" followed by "I'm bi" again... We also heard "I love my fans" "I don't want to meet the fans" while hanging at the back during Pride. It sounded like a very disingenuous piece of editing from whomever did that. Like it went out of its way to make us understand that seemingly anything that comes out of Damien Kyle's mouth can't be trusted...

I don't know if that's true or not but the finished video seemed to want to hide its true intentions behind a veil of sympathy.

Wow! - Are you for real?​

I have no qualms with anyone posting an opinion on this forum - but when someone such as yourself makes a slanderous statement such as you have, stating that you're sure of something as malicious as you describe, I would really like to see the evidence from which you made this determination.
The rest of your post is strictly your opinion as you see it and that is fine, I don't have to agree with it but I respect your right to have it and express it. But you really should retract an apologize for the opening statement. - Just sayin'

 

[moonman32796]

That was touching. I wanted to give him a hug several times. Damien is awesome! so glad he is on the Broke Straight Boys