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Here in Florida houses were reasonable and now everything is just crazy. The new houses that went up were high 200's and now they are over 400k. The builder was even buying back contracts so they could get a new buyer to pay way more. They are building like crazy here and prices have skyrocketed. Groceries and everything has gone up and continues to. I don't see how people can afford things here. How is it where you live?
 
The Seattle area in the 70's and 80's was a low priced area to live. In the 80's with the success of Microsoft the economy started to flourish and property prices were on the rise. Starbucks started take off as well and people started moving here. The older companies that started here like Boeing, Costco and Nordstrom helped build a family friendly area, but the high tech companies started moving here as well and things haven't been reasonable since. The 90's saw the birth of Grunge rock and our population rose quickly, so the demand for housing started to become a problem. The 2000's saw Amazon just explode, and that has been a downfall for the housing market (unless of course you already owned your home) then you hit the jackpot!!! Housing prices today are completely out of this world right now. 150K -200k ramblers are now pushing 1 million. Our gas sits at $5 a gallon, but we are used to high prices for gas here. My rental house 12 years ago was a good price for then, but now its way above then it should be. If I moved right I couldn't afford a 1 bedroom apt and my landlady could get $1500 more a month for my house. Thank God she loves me!!!
 
It's absolutely insane here in Southeast Massachusetts. My 1 bedroom condo I bought 6 years ago for just under $100k, I could probably easily get $150k without batting an eye. A 2 bedroom sold for 10k over ask at $170k one year ago in less than one hour on the market. I couldn't afford to move if i wanted too, the median home price in 2021 was $570k. No way I'm doing that comfortably on my single income (I'd be house poor) :(

Gas is over $5, and food prices are up considerably. I was lucky that I purchased a new car before there was a shortage, so that's good. The same car is close to 10k more than I paid.

I seriously worry for the next generation, it can't keep up on this trend for long, it's not sustainable long term.
 
Look back at history for corrections on over priced periods they all end in a depression.
 
I have plenty to say on this subject too. But it'll have to wait for later when I have more free time. It's a great subject!
 
Yes. We are finding the same thing in the Tampa Bay region. The state is adding 845 new residents evey day. Last year 318,855 more people moved here. The population of Orlando (the city proper not including the nearby surrounding suburbs) is 302,000+. So the state is adding another Orlando in population every year.

All those new residents don't tell the whole story though because not all of them will end up staying. Some of them quickly find (to their surpise) that while the cost of living is typically lower here than other northern states in particular, that unfortunately Florida is also a lower wage state. It is a nice bonus that Florida doesn't have a state income tax. However unions are very few and far between. Some employers either don't offer insurance at all or they offer pretty expensive plans. Not all, mind you. But many. So many of us Florida residents put up with what we sarcastically call the "the Sunshine Tax". haha As in.... Is it worth it to you to live on less disposable income (than you could get elsewhere) for the huge perk of living in a semi-tropical climate with sunny, very mild winters of no snow and no bitter cold? For me, that's a definite yes. No regrets. :)

Some new residents who come here unaware of the unique challenges, will end up returning to their original home states for the better wages and benefits offered by northern employers. The other downside is that Florida's schools typically have not been up to par with their northern counterparts either. So that pushes many young parents with kids to have to be very picky about which school districts they are moving into down here. (If they have that luxury in choosing their most affordable and desireable home in their preferred city or location.)

But like Mark has said, the cost of real estate is going really high. The cost of rent is out of sight and seemingly going up monthly rather than quarterly or annually. There isn't enough inventory to accomodate all these new people moving in. Plus of course there is also greed driving the housing market just like there is all over the country. Landlords and apartment complex owners know they can pass off an unjustified increase in rent (far beyond any actual increase in costs to them) and just blame it on "inflation". Which artificially justs boosts actual inflation higher.

Also, yes. With a high elderly population who come here to retire in Florida, that does keep older inventory coming on to the market as they inevitably pass on. But even that isn't enough to really get ahead of the inventory gap. They're building like crazy down here and getting top dollar. Grocery costs are following the same trend here as all over the country.

The high inflation for just about everything is a tough time for us all.
 
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Yes. We are finding the same thing in the Tampa Bay region. The state is adding 845 new residents evey day. Last year 318,855 more people moved here. That isn't the whole story though because not all of them end up staying. Some of them quickly find that while the cost of living is typically lower here than other northern states in particular, that unfortunately Florida is also lower wage state. Unions are very few and far between. So many of us Florida residents put up with what we call the "the Sunshine Tax". haha As in.... Is it worth it to you to live on less disposable income (than you could get elsewhere) for the huge perk of living in a tropical climate with sunny, very mild winters of no snow and no bitter cold? For me, that's a definite yes. No regrets.

Some new residents who come here unaware of the unique challenges, will end up returning to their original home states for the better wages and benefits offered by northern employers. The other downside is that Florida's schools typically have not been up to par with their northern counterparts either. So that pushes many young parents with kids to have to be very picky about which school districts they are moving into down here. (If they have that luxury in choosing their most affordable and desireable home, city and location.)

But like Mark has said, the cost of real estate is going really high. There isn't enough inventory to accomodate all these new people moving in. Yes. With a high elderly population who come here to retire, that does keep older inventory coming on to the market as they inevitably pass on. But even that isn't enough to really get ahead of the inventory gap. They're building like crazy down here and getting top dollar. Groceries are following the same trend here as all over the country.

The high inflation for just about everything is a tough time for us all.


How can you be surprised with retirees now in their unproductive years and a governor that would fit in with the country as it was 100 years ago, who was reelected with the largest margin of any Republican governor, so a majority of the voting population that supports him.
 
After I pay my rent & utilities and food, I am going to start a new site called brokeporndirector.com
 
After I pay my rent & utilities and food, I am going to start a new site called brokeporndirector.com
LMFAO! :haha:

We could start a "Go Fund Me" page for you!

"Down on their luck porn directors who need a handout. Not just a handy." (Insert Trademark and Copyright) ;) haha
 
I have a 4 year stem degree and I was forced to get a second job at Amazon just to have some spending money. You need 120k+ salary to buy something ok in the area, rent has gone up nearly 50% since I moved out on my own in 2019.
 
I have a 4 year stem degree and I was forced to get a second job at Amazon just to have some spending money. You need 120k+ salary to buy something ok in the area, rent has gone up nearly 50% since I moved out on my own in 2019.
Well then what do I say with a doctorate. You don't want to know what I took in last year!
 
I have a 4 year stem degree and I was forced to get a second job at Amazon just to have some spending money. You need 120k+ salary to buy something ok in the area, rent has gone up nearly 50% since I moved out on my own in 2019.
Wow. It's insane what has happened to housing.
 
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