Cj and sam

[tampa24]

Oh, jeeze, Clay I've got tears of laughter rolling down my face! And here I was thinking perhaps you didn't have a sense of humor...

Obviously a wicked sense of humor! LMAO

 

[mikeyank]

Dear Clay,

You obviously know how much this site means to us the hard core forumites, and when you give us the inside story with the models, and the scenes, it makes us love the site even more. If you could try to interact with us, and if not answer our specific questions, but perhaps offer more "inside" stuff, it would go a long way to that great new year on Broke Straight Boys that Mark has promised us.

And thanks for giving me my kind of scene, every once in the while with very straight looking guys who don't kiss and don't willingly bend over for a cock in their ass. But I understand I am in the minority, so I will accept a few "scraps" at the end of the month.

Happy New Year Clay. Hopefully you will be less of a stranger in "these here parts" in the new year.

 

[joninliverton]

That knowledge makes a HUGE difference! Thank you Clay. Like I said, don't listen to the members that tell you not to talk to the guys, sometimes it is absolutely necessary. That information totally changes the impression of this video. I wish we could hear the story of Sam........

Exactly and thanks Clay for posting that information.

 

[BSBHClay]

Oh, jeeze, Clay I've got tears of laughter rolling down my face! And here I was thinking perhaps you didn't have a sense of humor...

HAHA. I do have a sense of humor! Also a deviant mind. All of the models know they are in for something they don't want to do when I get a glint in my eye and a wry smile on my face right before a scene.

 

[BSBHClay]

Thank you Clay!

This is exactly why it's so helpful and adds more enjoyment to scenes when you participate. That's not to say that you should try to comment on every scene. For if you do, then there are bound to be those who will insist that you have an obligation to answer every single question a member poses. And you certainly don't want to go there...even if you had the time. Which of course, you don't.

I will not pester with questions Clay but I will make a few comments/suggestions for how this video might have gone better. I am keeping in mind that with so many members with such diverse tastes that there will also be those who like this scene just the way it is. Of course these opinions are just my own and I never claim to speak for a majority of people.

First off, it's a big letdown to have no interview with the models after being given the teaser in the blurb that CJ just got out of prison. It's better not to even tell us something like this if it's never going to be discussed or followed up on. If we are told in print that a model has had something wonderful or something terrible happen to him, the natural reaction and expectation is to want more details. Sometimes yes, it's just out of curiosity. But also many times it's out of genuine concern. To say that a model just got back from being invited to the White House...or even God forbid that a model's apartment caught on fire...it creates a natural desire to want more details and see how the model is reacting to those events. Dropping a provocative bit of news about a model and then giving no follow-up is going to be a letdown for viewers. Long story short, for both models in this particular situation, an interview was really necessary. This scene especially was not a good choice for a cold start.

No we go to Sam's situation. If we had heard from Sam or you in the interview anything to the effect of Sam having scars around his belly or abdomen that he was reluctant for people to see...I think you would be amazed at how much sympathy and understanding he would have gotten. And he would not have had to go into every detail and give up his privacy. For all we might have known they could have been surgical scars from some type of illness. Those within the forum would have tried to come up with theories or explanations for how this happened or whatever. That's what we do! haha But I believe people (in the forum and not in the forum) would not have complained about him wearing too many clothes and watched him from a different mindset.

You say that CJ had never sucked dick before and had stubbornly refused to do it up to this point. But again the fact that this was a big first for him was lost on probably 99% of viewers of this scene. He's been away so long that nobody remembers, "Oh wow! He never did oral in any of his previous scenes." Even if this vid had been released all the way back in September when it was filmed...I still don't think many people would have recognized that we were seeing a first time oral scene for CJ. Now we're into late December. So what should have been a big draw and an added bonus to the scene, ( a de-virginizing of sorts), was for nothing and had no impact at all. An interview in this vid would have given you (or CJ) the chance to point this out to viewers in advance.

We can't change the past here so I will say moving forward that if both CJ and Sam want to continue with their shirts on in scenes, I will still watch them with great interest. I was thinking earlier today that I used to love porn from the 80's when some guys would keep nice looking shirts on and do a scene without pants. I thought it made them look more handsome sometimes. Probably because it gave you a better idea of how they looked out in the real world, when you might run into them and wonder what they would look like with their pants off. lol But they should at least take their pants off. Not keep them on most of the time. If CJ or Sam wear nice looking shirts...with colors that complement their skin tone or maybe bring out the color of their eyes...I think they will still do very well here. Just as long as you tell them in advance that they have to bring nice smart-casual shirts with them for filming. Not any ratty, torn t-shirts that say, "Joe's Bar and Grill". LOL

I know I want to see more of both of them.

Hopefully this isn't too off topic, but your post made me start thinking about all of the backstories many of the models have. For various reasons, including the individual sensitivity of the particular model, some things are not discussed in the scene.

I just did an off-the-cuff list of offenders, and found that, of all of the models I have worked with this year, at least 9 were on probation, 4 on parole, and several others had been in halfway houses over the course of the year prior to my meeting them. Many others have never been arrested in their lives, so you see it is a very motley crew. One is actually in law enforcement, and several are in the military actively or recently discharged. Many models are willing to talk openly about these personal topics, but many are not. I have found that the vast majority of offenses tend to concern drugs and/or alcohol, and very rarely anything most people would consider major.

On another note, I do enjoy from time to time filming guys mostly or partially clothed, for the reasons you stated, and because I think it evokes a "quickie," which can be very hot. I don't do it often myself, but sometimes it can be fun to just pull the pants down past your knees and roll with it.

 

[stowe1]

Oh, jeeze, Clay I've got tears of laughter rolling down my face! And here I was thinking perhaps you didn't have a sense of humor...

HAHA. I do have a sense of humor! Also a deviant mind. All of the models know they are in for something they don't want to do when I get a glint in my eye and a wry smile on my face right before a scene.

Thank you Clay!

This is exactly why it's so helpful and adds more enjoyment to scenes when you participate. That's not to say that you should try to comment on every scene. For if you do, then there are bound to be those who will insist that you have an obligation to answer every single question a member poses. And you certainly don't want to go there...even if you had the time. Which of course, you don't.

I will not pester with questions Clay but I will make a few comments/suggestions for how this video might have gone better. I am keeping in mind that with so many members with such diverse tastes that there will also be those who like this scene just the way it is. Of course these opinions are just my own and I never claim to speak for a majority of people.

First off, it's a big letdown to have no interview with the models after being given the teaser in the blurb that CJ just got out of prison. It's better not to even tell us something like this if it's never going to be discussed or followed up on. If we are told in print that a model has had something wonderful or something terrible happen to him, the natural reaction and expectation is to want more details. Sometimes yes, it's just out of curiosity. But also many times it's out of genuine concern. To say that a model just got back from being invited to the White House...or even God forbid that a model's apartment caught on fire...it creates a natural desire to want more details and see how the model is reacting to those events. Dropping a provocative bit of news about a model and then giving no follow-up is going to be a letdown for viewers. Long story short, for both models in this particular situation, an interview was really necessary. This scene especially was not a good choice for a cold start.

No we go to Sam's situation. If we had heard from Sam or you in the interview anything to the effect of Sam having scars around his belly or abdomen that he was reluctant for people to see...I think you would be amazed at how much sympathy and understanding he would have gotten. And he would not have had to go into every detail and give up his privacy. For all we might have known they could have been surgical scars from some type of illness. Those within the forum would have tried to come up with theories or explanations for how this happened or whatever. That's what we do! haha But I believe people (in the forum and not in the forum) would not have complained about him wearing too many clothes and watched him from a different mindset.

You say that CJ had never sucked dick before and had stubbornly refused to do it up to this point. But again the fact that this was a big first for him was lost on probably 99% of viewers of this scene. He's been away so long that nobody remembers, "Oh wow! He never did oral in any of his previous scenes." Even if this vid had been released all the way back in September when it was filmed...I still don't think many people would have recognized that we were seeing a first time oral scene for CJ. Now we're into late December. So what should have been a big draw and an added bonus to the scene, ( a de-virginizing of sorts), was for nothing and had no impact at all. An interview in this vid would have given you (or CJ) the chance to point this out to viewers in advance.

We can't change the past here so I will say moving forward that if both CJ and Sam want to continue with their shirts on in scenes, I will still watch them with great interest. I was thinking earlier today that I used to love porn from the 80's when some guys would keep nice looking shirts on and do a scene without pants. I thought it made them look more handsome sometimes. Probably because it gave you a better idea of how they looked out in the real world, when you might run into them and wonder what they would look like with their pants off. lol But they should at least take their pants off. Not keep them on most of the time. If CJ or Sam wear nice looking shirts...with colors that complement their skin tone or maybe bring out the color of their eyes...I think they will still do very well here. Just as long as you tell them in advance that they have to bring nice smart-casual shirts with them for filming. Not any ratty, torn t-shirts that say, "Joe's Bar and Grill". LOL

I know I want to see more of both of them.

Hopefully this isn't too off topic, but your post made me start thinking about all of the backstories many of the models have. For various reasons, including the individual sensitivity of the particular model, some things are not discussed in the scene.

I just did an off-the-cuff list of offenders, and found that, of all of the models I have worked with this year, at least 9 were on probation, 4 on parole, and several others had been in halfway houses over the course of the year prior to my meeting them. Many others have never been arrested in their lives, so you see it is a very motley crew. One is actually in law enforcement, and several are in the military actively or recently discharged. Many models are willing to talk openly about these personal topics, but many are not. I have found that the vast majority of offenses tend to concern drugs and/or alcohol, and very rarely anything most people would consider major.

On another note, I do enjoy from time to time filming guys mostly or partially clothed, for the reasons you stated, and because I think it evokes a "quickie," which can be very hot. I don't do it often myself, but sometimes it can be fun to just pull the pants down past your knees and roll with it.

Note to Clay: Thanks for the background information about this scene. But if you are willing to tell us about CJ's prison stint and tattoos, and Sam's being shot in the abdomen - all personal info, then why can't or won't you tell us what happend to the Red Rocket; or why Blake has been absent for 3 months? or where's Denver (now that the studio is in Denver)? Can't be anymore personal than what you've told us about CJ and Sam!

Two examples on the same thread of Broke Straight Boys management/staff addressing complimentary comments, but not responding to questions which, while neither complimentary nor derogatory, are just as valid and relevant. It is easy to handle the softballs, why not try a few hardballs?




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[mikeyank]

Two examples on the same thread of Broke Straight Boys management/staff addressing complimentary comments, but not responding to questions which, while neither complimentary nor derogatory, are just as valid and relevant. It is easy to handle the softballs, why not try a few hardballs?

Dear Stowe,

You are certainly entitled as a paying member of this site to continue your search for "Truth, Justice, and the American Way", (a quote from the opening of my favorite childhood television series).

However I don't hold management at Broke Straight Boys under any obligation to answer all of our questions regarding the employment or lack of same with models. This is not a publicly held company or a government agency where we have the right to "freedom of information". This is a private company who makes business and financial decisions for their own reasons.

I was the manager of a business for over thirty years, and I had many employees who I may have had private issues with and had to let people go. We hired some seasonally, (much like bringing a model here back after several months or longer). I had situations where I had some guys who were very popular with the crew who wanted to return, but I decided that it was not in the best interest of the company who paid me to re-hire some of them.

I certainly would not have wanted to post on any "blog", read by interested parties and have to explain my own and my companies personal reasons as to why I was not bringing back someone back who wanted to work, and was popular and seemingly did a good job. That is a private decision that should not be publicly discussed.

I am quite content to have Mark or Clay give us whatever "inside information" they choose to regarding the comings and goings of models, and I certainly understand when they choose to ignore questions that could embarrass or offend models, and that are quite frankly none of our business.

 

[Ambivalent]

Hey guys,

Although I am not that much into scenes that involve clothing - my acronym for this, is "TOSS" ("Take off that Stupid Shirt/Shorts/Socks";-) -and one of the reasons I appreciate Broke Straight Boys and College Dudes so much is that they usually film on a BED, where you can see everything . . . I ALSO totally get Mike's enjoyment of partially-clothed scenes, as an evocation of some really exciting moments, in life. And I think he deserves to see them! (There are lots of updates, too - so I think no one should miss out. . . and Mike, that was almost Proustian, and I really enjpyed your comments.)

All that being said - I really enjoyed this scene! Because, for me, the guys were hot, and there was just that little bit of tension in the air, that added to the anticipation.

Also, Clay, thank you for offering the back-story - that was very interesting, and will add to my appreciation of future viewings of this scene. Hope that both CJ and Sam are doing better, BTW.

"A" XOXOXOXOXO

 

[tampa24]

I also am very glad that our Mikey got a scene that he really liked.

 

[Ambivalent]

Tampa -

Mikey sure deserves ~ he is a sweetheart and a half

"A" ))

 

[mikeyank]

I also am very glad that our Mikey got a scene that he really liked.

Tampa -

Mikey sure deserves ~ he is a sweetheart and a half

"A" ))

Now I am blushing. Thank you guys.

But while I did enjoyed the partial clothing, the thing that made the scene for me was that they were good looking, with hot bodies, and that they looked and dressed like straight guys do, that I encounter in everyday life. And that they acted the way two "straight identifying" guys might behave, who were horny, and needed to get off quick, no kissing, tender touching or romantic lovemaking. It was just hot young guys having hot sex. This was what "Broke Straight Boys" means to mean, but I will be patient for another similar scene for I certainly understand that all members here are not looking for the same thing.

 

[tangogent]

Now I am blushing. Thank you guys.

But while I did enjoyed the partial clothing, the thing that made the scene for me was that they were good looking, with hot bodies, and that they looked and dressed like straight guys do, that I encounter in everyday life. And that they acted the way two "straight identifying" guys might behave, who were horny, and needed to get off quick, no kissing, tender touching or romantic lovemaking. It was just hot young guys having hot sex. This was what "Broke Straight Boys" means to mean, but I will be patient for another similar scene for I certainly understand that all members here are not looking for the same thing.

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"I am glad, also, that my Big Bro MikeYank has been given such a lovely Christmas prezzie by Broke Straight Boys
for all his dedicated time on the site."

Me three!

TG
x

 

[mikeyank]

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"I am glad, also, that my Big Bro MikeYank has been given such a lovely Christmas prezzie by Broke Straight Boys
for all his dedicated time on the site."

Me three!

TG
x

You are a total sweetheart TG, and I am proud to be associated with my erudite "little brother" on this forum. I hope that we remain united here in forumland into the forceeable future!

 

[stowe1]

Dear Stowe,

You are certainly entitled as a paying member of this site to continue your search for "Truth, Justice, and the American Way", (a quote from the opening of my favorite childhood television series).

However I don't hold management at Broke Straight Boys under any obligation to answer all of our questions regarding the employment or lack of same with models. This is not a publicly held company or a government agency where we have the right to "freedom of information". This is a private company who makes business and financial decisions for their own reasons.

I was the manager of a business for over thirty years, and I had many employees who I may have had private issues with and had to let people go. We hired some seasonally, (much like bringing a model here back after several months or longer). I had situations where I had some guys who were very popular with the crew who wanted to return, but I decided that it was not in the best interest of the company who paid me to re-hire some of them.

I certainly would not have wanted to post on any "blog", read by interested parties and have to explain my own and my companies personal reasons as to why I was not bringing back someone back who wanted to work, and was popular and seemingly did a good job. That is a private decision that should not be publicly discussed.

I am quite content to have Mark or Clay give us whatever "inside information" they choose to regarding the comings and goings of models, and I certainly understand when they choose to ignore questions that could embarrass or offend models, and that are quite frankly none of our business.

Dear mikey-

I can't say that I don't agree with you in theory. In fact, I have said basically the same thing several times before, i.e. that management of this privately owned company does not have any obligation to reveal anything about its finances, internal operations, etc.

Having said that, when such managment decides to lift the curtain on certain things, then I believe there should be some consistency in that process. Obviously management and you don't agree which is its and your right. But I will continue to agitate for that.

Now if management has received the permission of CJ to reveal his personal information relative to his prison stint and tattoos, and Sam's permission to reveal his being shot in the abdomen - which of course we don't know because Clay did not indicate whether or not he did - then that is fine. If management's policy is to reveal only such things about a model for which they obtain permission, then that policy should be stated and the issue would be moot.

So if Spencer Todd (Red Rocket) is gone and has asked that the reason for his no longer being on the site not be revealed, then that's fine. Same way with Blake. If he has asked that the reason or reasons why he has not been on the site for three months not be revealed, then that's fine. But if CJ and Sam's info was released by management with no input from them, then I really don't see why it would be hesitant to answer any other questions. But as I sit here typing this, I just had an awakening:

I myself am being inconsistent. On that neverending thread about Blake, I averred that I don't care whether models post on the forum, get paid for it, or don't really need to know about a model's personal life. And here I am rambling on in a series of posts about models' personal lives. Therefore:

I apologize to Mark, Clay, et al. for prattling on about all this stuff. I also apologize to my fellow forumites for the same thing. I pride myself on consistency, yet I have been inconsistent on this topic. I resolve that henceforth my only comments about models will be restricted to their scene work. And I hereby authorize any of you, my fellow forumites, to hit me upside the head if I vary from this resolution. Ainsi soit-il!!




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[mikeyank]

as I sit here typing this, I just had an awakening:I myself am being inconsistent. On that neverending thread about Blake, I averred that I don't care whether models post on the forum, get paid for it, or don't really need to know about a model's personal life. And here I am rambling on in a series of posts about models' personal lives. Therefore:

I apologize to Mark, Clay, et al. for prattling on about all this stuff. I also apologize to my fellow forumites for the same thing. I pride myself on consistency, yet I have been inconsistent on this topic. I resolve that henceforth my only comments about models will be restricted to their scene work. And I hereby authorize any of you, my fellow forumites, to hit me upside the head if I vary from this resolution. Ainsi soit-il!!

My dear Stowe, I see no reason for you to apologize for being somewhat inconsistent in your postings. Aren't we all as human beings inconsistent from time to time, as situations and moods vary?

I can promise you that I will not be the one to "hit you upside the head" if you again bring up personal aspects of the "real guys" who act in the scenes on Broke Straight Boys I personally find it impossible to totally separate the two.

But of most importance, I will publicly state what I told you in a private message, that one of my joys of 2012 was getting to know you, and the great shocker to me several years ago was that this forum, and the people that I've met here are far more important to me than any model or scene on Broke Straight Boys, for after all that is only porn. You my friend are a real person, and I value and cherish your friendship.

HAPPY NEW YEAR to you Stowe1 my dear friend!!!

 

[tampa24]

I myself am being inconsistent. On that neverending thread about Blake, I averred that I don't care whether models post on the forum, get paid for it, or don't really need to know about a model's personal life. And here I am rambling on in a series of posts about models' personal lives. Therefore:

I apologize to Mark, Clay, et al. for prattling on about all this stuff. I also apologize to my fellow forumites for the same thing. I pride myself on consistency, yet I have been inconsistent on this topic. I resolve that henceforth my only comments about models will be restricted to their scene work. And I hereby authorize any of you, my fellow forumites, to hit me upside the head if I vary from this resolution. Ainsi soit-il!!

Are you going to apologize for being human also Stowe? lol That you may be curious about more personal issues with some models in particular while not giving a fig about the lives of some others? It all sounds pretty normal to me. We're not programmable robots. I for one will not hold you accountable to your resolution of never discussing anything about the models beyond their scenes work. xo The way I see it, it's the right of the staff and mgmt to be inconsistent in how much info they share about the models and the filming of them.

If for example a model is willing to share the exact measurements of his dick and his first masturbation experience but refuses to tell us which brand of toothpaste he uses or what kind of car he drives...well, we just have to accept that. Inconsistent? Yes. His right to be? Absolutely.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Oh, Stowe......I can't hit you upside the head. 1. You did nothing wrong. 2. My hand hurts from all the times I have to hit Mikey upside the head. 3. We are human and inconsistent, at times. And sometimes we actually change our minds.

 

[mikeyank]

Oh, Stowe......I can't hit you upside the head. 1. You did nothing wrong. 2. My hand hurts from all the times I have to hit Mikey upside the head. 3. We are human and inconsistent, at times. And sometimes we actually change our minds.

She's right Stowe. My head is still hurting from the last beating she gave me.

 

[rrhill]

Love hurts

I put him with Sam, who had the biggest dick available at that time

Like a baby arm, holding an apple!

 

[BenBen]

I thought the boys were hot and I like it when they don't always get totally naked all the time. I think it would have been hot even if they had only pulled their dicks out of their fly. I thought the action was hot. What I didn't like and this was BIG for me was the camera work. I like seeing some good ball work and right when it started to happen the camera drops down and cuts it off. That looked like some class A ball sucking and we missed most of it. This has happened over and over in many videos. I think Clay must have something against ball sucking? The undershot near the end was OK but it was a really bad angle for the cum shot it would have been OK if there would have been another cam capturing the cum shot from a better angle. I watched it twice and only saw 1 guy blowing a load I don't know if the other load was that small or that fast that I missed it.

That has been a problem for me in most of the last few videos the cum shots are either not highlighted. Yes, I like the action building up to the orgasm but I want to see the cum that's kind of the point isn't it? I don't get all these videos with just 1 guy cumming? What's the point? If you have a model who can't cum on cam or can't get it up maybe this isn't the right job for him. If I wanted to see porn with limp dicks and no cum shots I could see that for free on xtube and a lot of other places.