Cj and sam

[mikeyank]

I hope forum members do not mind my 2 cents worth and it may not be worth that amount as well.

Please Gardenboy, never apologize for offering your honest feelings about what you see here. Sexuality is so subjective and varies from person to person, and it is always interesting reading various member's opinions and thoughts.

Please post often in 2013. No one's opinion here is any more important than anyone else's.

Thank you for expressing yourself, and Happy New Year to you!!!

 

[joninliverton]

Sorry to read so many disappointed reactions.

We all can't have great taste lol

 

[tampa24]

I always find it enlightening, fascinating (and often amusing) to see the varied reactions of so many people to the same videos. It kind of gives you an insight into what gets their juices flowing. haha

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Hmmmmm...... To be honest, this scene is a fail for me, but only because the idea behind it was not well thought out. This is the type of scene that should be done at the BEGINNING of a new models time with Broke Straight Boys, as we get to know them and start their journey. There was no getting to know them here, and Sam has been around a long time.

I think Clay took some people saying he talked to much, to the extreme, and quit talking at all.........bad, bad, move. This was a scene that needed an intro, especially after the preview blurb.

On a side note, Sam looked great. I don't know what he has been doing, but he should keep it up. And......I thought CJ looked like he could be Johnny's little brother, so maybe Johnny can straighten him out.

 

[rrhill]

1 star is born

I always find it enlightening, fascinating (and often amusing) to see the varied reactions of so many people to the same videos. It kind of gives you an insight into what gets their juices flowing. haha

Did you just rate my sex life with 1 star Tampa?

 

[JLipps4u]

I hope forum members do not mind my 2 cents worth and it may not be worth that amount as well. I was truly disappointed in the vid. Sam is on one of my favorite lists and to see him partially clothed was such a let down. And at the end when the boys simply cum standing up was also a disappointment as you could not determine how much was produced. It would have been far better tohave them milk oneanother on hands and kneeds into a nice milk bottle to represent boy milk. Also, I noted CJ's 3 episodes on the Beginning of Broke Straight Boys-2 and now wonder what the age cut off is before a model is dumped? Supposedly he had a prison term if blurb advertizing the scene is corret. But then Nu of Broke Straight Boys-1 and the other site has been and is now in prison for violating parole. Also supposedly Ashton is in prison in Texas( wish they could bring him back - I always liked his somewhat crazy and free spirited ways..

I totally agree with Mikeyank. Thanks gardenboy, for sharing your 2 cents! Everyone's opinion is valuable. I haVe to tell you, I hAVe watched a video and formed an opinion and shared that opinion in haste. Then I have read someone else's opinion, and damn it, they make me see the video in a totally new light, and I end up changing my opinion. I love that about this forum!

 

[tampa24]

Did you just rate my sex life with 1 star Tampa?

Not at all Robert! haha I'm sure you bring a 5 star experience to any man lucky enough to have sex with you. And that's regardless of whether you (as many of the rest of us) have ever relied on the kindness of strangers. LOL There is a heart pumping thrill to anonymous sex.

The other question though is: Would your sex life (or anyone's for that matter) make mostly 5 star viewing entertainment for anyone watching it on film?

Two different issues... Right?

It may feel great for both parties. But it doesn't always translate well into good spectator sport. haha

 

[Beth]

Did you just rate my sex life with 1 star Tampa?

...maybe you're just "feeling" the wrong thing?! hehehe

 

[Valentine]

I liked the video. I like partially clothed sex both watching and doing. In my younger days, of picking up guys, and taking them home, I used to love that moment of unwrapping their package by opening their jeans and pulling out their dick, slowly, working through the underwear first, seeing what they were packing. I wouldn't want a total diet of this on here but this one sure worked for me. Gotta love Sam's cock. I also liked that they came in tandem. CJ was way more tuned in to his partner than he would care to admit, I'm sure. to come as soon as he shot. Only thing that would have made it a lot more hot for me would be a little cock rubbing and shooting on each other's cocks, instead of the floor. But, hey, if you were in the bushes or toilet and going back to the bars for another cruise, maybe you'd rather the cum went on the ground or floor, rather than mess you up. What do you think you sexy old time cruisers out there? By the way, I envy your history. Horizontal works better for a girl! Standing up must be oh so handy out in the world.

 

[tangogent]

I hadn't seen either of these models before, so for me it was like a first video for both of them,
and I could eat them up--especially Sam--with a silver, specially-contoured spoon.

I'd like to know more about CJ's prison experience--in fact, any of the models' prison experience--
since that's an archetypal hot fantasy spot for me. It is virtually the norm for str8 guys to 'go
gay' when they are 'inside'.

However, the beauty of the models and Sam's obvious relish--and CJ's less obvious relish--for the task
made it exciting viewing.

To me, it's evidence of how something (or someone) who doesn't fit any of one's favourite categories
can hit the spot big-time on occasion.

(The same applies to Adam's recent partner; his passion made up for not being photogenic.)

I am glad, also, that my Big Bro MikeYank has been given such a lovely Christmas prezzie by Broke Straight Boys
for all his dedicated time on the site.

TG
x

 

[BSBHClay]

Hello, all. I want to shed some light on how this scene came about, because it will probably go a long way towards folks understanding this video.

First of all, I want to say that personally, I usually get off to vids that have fucking. That said, in the past few years, I have also been getting into some oral-only scenes - usually when I think that it is a "first time BJ."

In the case of this video, CJ had gotten out of prison months before we shot this. He had done some videos well over a year ago, and at that time he absolutely refused to suck dick. Well, since I am a bit of a stubborn perv, when CJ contacted me we went back and forth for months about whether or not he could do anymore scenes. At first he was still adamant about not sucking dick. I had told him this was a condition for more work. I guess the legal fees associated with parole/probation were piling up, and CJ relented. And just because he was so cry-baby about dick sucking, I put him with Sam, who had the biggest dick available at that time.

CJ was reticent about taking off his shirt because of all of the ink he got in prison, and although that wasn't my primary motivation, it made me think about doing a clothed scene - probably more because I can definitely imagine (whether true or not) that CJ from time to time in the past has dropped to his knees to suck some dick for money. In addition, This was also Sam's first video since he had been shot three time in the abdomen. His scars were still pretty fresh and we didn't show those on camera.

It is rare in a video for the two guys to cum almost simultaneously, so when CJ nutted barely after Sam had finished, I was smiling. To me this indicates a definite sexual chemistry. I liked the angle, too. The entire scene was a bit of a tribute to two young guys who are messing around, but perhaps not so committed to messing around that they would actually take off all of their clothes. I also know that a lot of folks like sneakers, so we had the guys leave those on for good measure.

Hopefully this back-story helps folks enjoy, or at least understand the vid. I thought Sam and CJ did a great job.

 

[rrhill]

It may feel great for both parties. But it doesn't always translate well into good spectator sport. haha

So... I'll blindfold you Tampa whilst having sex with you.

 

[Valentine]

Hello, all. I want to shed some light on how this scene came about, because it will probably go a long way towards folks understanding this video.

First of all, I want to say that personally, I usually get off to vids that have fucking. That said, in the past few years, I have also been getting into some oral-only scenes - usually when I think that it is a "first time BJ."

In the case of this video, CJ had gotten out of prison months before we shot this. He had done some videos well over a year ago, and at that time he absolutely refused to suck dick. Well, since I am a bit of a stubborn perv, when CJ contacted me we went back and forth for months about whether or not he could do anymore scenes. At first he was still adamant about not sucking dick. I had told him this was a condition for more work. I guess the legal fees associated with parole/probation were piling up, and CJ relented. And just because he was so cry-baby about dick sucking, I put him with Sam, who had the biggest dick available at that time.

CJ was reticent about taking off his shirt because of all of the ink he got in prison, and although that wasn't my primary motivation, it made me think about doing a clothed scene - probably more because I can definitely imagine (whether true or not) that CJ from time to time in the past has dropped to his knees to suck some dick for money. In addition, This was also Sam's first video since he had been shot three time in the abdomen. His scars were still pretty fresh and we didn't show those on camera.

It is rare in a video for the two guys to cum almost simultaneously, so when CJ nutted barely after Sam had finished, I was smiling. To me this indicates a definite sexual chemistry. I liked the angle, too. The entire scene was a bit of a tribute to two young guys who are messing around, but perhaps not so committed to messing around that they would actually take off all of their clothes. I also know that a lot of folks like sneakers, so we had the guys leave those on for good measure.

Hopefully this back-story helps folks enjoy, or at least understand the vid. I thought Sam and CJ did a great job.

Thanks for telling us all of this. They are truly Broke Straight Boys with hard luck stories, aren't they?

 

[Buckeye1]

And now we know the rest of the story. Thanks so much Clay for taking the time to enlighten us as to what went into this scene. I now see the scene in a whole new light. Although I did give the scene a 3 rating as "average", I probably would not change my rating after learning this new information.

I do sincerely hope both CJ and Sam return for more work here. Even with CJ's reluctance to suck cock, I still find him very sexy for some reason. Love to see his prison art.

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Hmmmmm...... To be honest, this scene is a fail for me, but only because the idea behind it was not well thought out. This is the type of scene that should be done at the BEGINNING of a new models time with Broke Straight Boys, as we get to know them and start their journey. There was no getting to know them here, and Sam has been around a long time.

I think Clay took some people saying he talked to much, to the extreme, and quit talking at all.........bad, bad, move. This was a scene that needed an intro, especially after the preview blurb.

On a side note, Sam looked great. I don't know what he has been doing, but he should keep it up. And......I thought CJ looked like he could be Johnny's little brother, so maybe Johnny can straighten him out.

Hello, all. I want to shed some light on how this scene came about, because it will probably go a long way towards folks understanding this video.

First of all, I want to say that personally, I usually get off to vids that have fucking. That said, in the past few years, I have also been getting into some oral-only scenes - usually when I think that it is a "first time BJ."

In the case of this video, CJ had gotten out of prison months before we shot this. He had done some videos well over a year ago, and at that time he absolutely refused to suck dick. Well, since I am a bit of a stubborn perv, when CJ contacted me we went back and forth for months about whether or not he could do anymore scenes. At first he was still adamant about not sucking dick. I had told him this was a condition for more work. I guess the legal fees associated with parole/probation were piling up, and CJ relented. And just because he was so cry-baby about dick sucking, I put him with Sam, who had the biggest dick available at that time.

CJ was reticent about taking off his shirt because of all of the ink he got in prison, and although that wasn't my primary motivation, it made me think about doing a clothed scene - probably more because I can definitely imagine (whether true or not) that CJ from time to time in the past has dropped to his knees to suck some dick for money. In addition, This was also Sam's first video since he had been shot three time in the abdomen. His scars were still pretty fresh and we didn't show those on camera.

It is rare in a video for the two guys to cum almost simultaneously, so when CJ nutted barely after Sam had finished, I was smiling. To me this indicates a definite sexual chemistry. I liked the angle, too. The entire scene was a bit of a tribute to two young guys who are messing around, but perhaps not so committed to messing around that they would actually take off all of their clothes. I also know that a lot of folks like sneakers, so we had the guys leave those on for good measure.

Hopefully this back-story helps folks enjoy, or at least understand the vid. I thought Sam and CJ did a great job.

That knowledge makes a HUGE difference! Thank you Clay. Like I said, don't listen to the members that tell you not to talk to the guys, sometimes it is absolutely necessary. That information totally changes the impression of this video. I wish we could hear the story of Sam........

 

[tangogent]

Thanks, Clay.

You have SO MUCH INFORMATION that we'd probably enjoy having, too.
I do hope you will use Sam again--in every sense of the term.

All the best for 2013!

TG
x

 

[TKeefer]

Hot scene! I like mixing it up a bit and not having every scene the same as the next.

 

[tampa24]

Thank you Clay!

This is exactly why it's so helpful and adds more enjoyment to scenes when you participate. That's not to say that you should try to comment on every scene. For if you do, then there are bound to be those who will insist that you have an obligation to answer every single question a member poses. And you certainly don't want to go there...even if you had the time. Which of course, you don't.

I will not pester with questions Clay but I will make a few comments/suggestions for how this video might have gone better. I am keeping in mind that with so many members with such diverse tastes that there will also be those who like this scene just the way it is. Of course these opinions are just my own and I never claim to speak for a majority of people.

First off, it's a big letdown to have no interview with the models after being given the teaser in the blurb that CJ just got out of prison. It's better not to even tell us something like this if it's never going to be discussed or followed up on. If we are told in print that a model has had something wonderful or something terrible happen to him, the natural reaction and expectation is to want more details. Sometimes yes, it's just out of curiosity. But also many times it's out of genuine concern. To say that a model just got back from being invited to the White House...or even God forbid that a model's apartment caught on fire...it creates a natural desire to want more details and see how the model is reacting to those events. Dropping a provocative bit of news about a model and then giving no follow-up is going to be a letdown for viewers. Long story short, for both models in this particular situation, an interview was really necessary. This scene especially was not a good choice for a cold start.

No we go to Sam's situation. If we had heard from Sam or you in the interview anything to the effect of Sam having scars around his belly or abdomen that he was reluctant for people to see...I think you would be amazed at how much sympathy and understanding he would have gotten. And he would not have had to go into every detail and give up his privacy. For all we might have known they could have been surgical scars from some type of illness. Those within the forum would have tried to come up with theories or explanations for how this happened or whatever. That's what we do! haha But I believe people (in the forum and not in the forum) would not have complained about him wearing too many clothes and watched him from a different mindset.

You say that CJ had never sucked dick before and had stubbornly refused to do it up to this point. But again the fact that this was a big first for him was lost on probably 99% of viewers of this scene. He's been away so long that nobody remembers, "Oh wow! He never did oral in any of his previous scenes." Even if this vid had been released all the way back in September when it was filmed...I still don't think many people would have recognized that we were seeing a first time oral scene for CJ. Now we're into late December. So what should have been a big draw and an added bonus to the scene, ( a de-virginizing of sorts), was for nothing and had no impact at all. An interview in this vid would have given you (or CJ) the chance to point this out to viewers in advance.

We can't change the past here so I will say moving forward that if both CJ and Sam want to continue with their shirts on in scenes, I will still watch them with great interest. I was thinking earlier today that I used to love porn from the 80's when some guys would keep nice looking shirts on and do a scene without pants. I thought it made them look more handsome sometimes. Probably because it gave you a better idea of how they looked out in the real world, when you might run into them and wonder what they would look like with their pants off. lol But they should at least take their pants off. Not keep them on most of the time. If CJ or Sam wear nice looking shirts...with colors that complement their skin tone or maybe bring out the color of their eyes...I think they will still do very well here. Just as long as you tell them in advance that they have to bring nice smart-casual shirts with them for filming. Not any ratty, torn t-shirts that say, "Joe's Bar and Grill". LOL

I know I want to see more of both of them.

 

[grace17]

And just because he was so cry-baby about dick sucking, I put him with Sam, who had the biggest dick available at that time.

Oh, jeeze, Clay I've got tears of laughter rolling down my face! And here I was thinking perhaps you didn't have a sense of humor...

 

[stowe1]

I was going to post again on this thread because I needed to clarify a thing or two about my original post, given the comments of some of you following mine. And now with Clay's post, that helps.

I gave this scene a 1 initially and said it was to me pedestrian and boring. I didn't say it was so because of the nature of the scene, i.e. two guys taking turns blowing each other with most of their clothes on. Believe me, during my 14 year journey out of the closet, I had much more than my fair share of sex in such circumstances be they in book store stalls, mens room, parks, alleys, glory holes, etc. So the setting of the scene was something I enjoyed and brought back some great memories to me. But for me, most of those experiences were with straight guys, who stood there and let me/made me suck their dicks. Their was no reciprocation. So that was a problem for me in this scene. Then the two guys in the scene do absolutely nothing for me. I'd love to be fucked by Sam's big dick, but that's about it.

So how would I grade it now? Given that I graded it just after watching it shortly after it was posted asnd I was tired, I admit I was probably too quick to judgement. So I'd raise the grade to a 2 - fair in my system. I liked the setting of the scene, it didn't bother me that there was no pre-scene interview, but the guys still left me limp.



Note to Clay: Thanks for the background information about this scene. But if you are willing to tell us about CJ's prison stint and tattoos, and Sam's being shot in the abdomen - all personal info, then why can't or won't you tell us what happend to the Red Rocket; or why Blake has been absent for 3 months? or where's Denver (now that the studio is in Denver)? Can't be anymore personal than what you've told us about CJ and Sam!



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