Changing Times.....or Preference?

[betudidntknow]

I became real curious about something with the recent situation of a model who was introduced as being a first timer (so to speak) and later finding that they've done extensive work in the industry.

When I first became active on the forum, I got the impression that, models were picked who were "fresh, new faces" with no experience, or admitted little experience either with "guy guy" sex, or work in porn. That seems to be the case for the most part among the models presented over the past year or so.

Because the forum allows it's members voices to be heard and their opinions are instrumental in how the site makes every attempt to give the members what seem to impact their viewing pleasure, I must ask a question or two.

Are times changing or is it a matter of preference among the members? If there is a "shortage of models" available to provide the "fresh innocence" that is enjoyed, what happens when a model who is among "The Boys" list leaves for a period of time (for whatever reason) but, remains in good standing with the site managers. Continues to work in the industry without becoming an "Exclusive" model for another site. They continue to need the money (cause they are still broke) but, is available to do scenes on Broke Straight Boys Does it depend on the model?

While some may feel that, if a model is doing work on other sites, they are no longer "Straight" I personally opine that is more of an "individually based" thing. I have seen models who are in the "Broke Straight Boys Boys Listing" who continue to appear sporadically in scenes featured on other porn sites but, continue to proclaim their "broke straight" status. While some have changed their status but, because of educational pursuits, still are "broke".

Does it depend on the model? Does it depend on their "presentation?" By that I mean, they don't try to sell themselves as something or someone that can easily be researched or discovered on the internet?

This is a very general question based on my observations. I am not talking about any models in particular except, models who have been on or have appeared in Broke Straight Boys in general but, continue to work in the industry?

I was just interested in what others think?

 

[mikeyank]

Within my fantasy and fetish I care about the models being fresh and new upon their arrival here, unless they are introduced with some background about their past, as we recently heard that one newbie was a stripper who had been offered money by customers to do a "private show", and others tell about some gay or almost gay experiences in their lives. And that can work within my fantasy, but in this age of instant communication, I am opposed to a model misrepresenting himself initially and giving Johnny and the viewers a totally false interview regarding his experience and his sexuality.

My preference is also for a model to remain exclusive here through his "breaking in" period. I would hate to discover that for example, Ronan Kennedy after his week of filming for Broke Straight Boys, has now appeared on "Bait Bus", "College Hazing", "Catholic Boys Gone Wild", "Spank Me Daddy" or whatever other sites currently exist, and then for him to come back here again to try to pickup where he last left off, getting accustomed to fucking dudes, and if necessary getting fucked himself, trying to resume the storyline from where we last saw him in his progression. That wouldn't work for my fantasy.

But once a model has made a few visits to the mansion to shoot 3-5 scenes per visit, and I then discover he has worked on other sites, I have no problem with that. And if I like the guy, I would welcome seeing him back here again perhaps to break in a new cute guy. Jason had left Broke Straight Boys and returned, and according to Damian Christopher on one of the Broke Straight Boys-TV threads, Jimmy Johnson was brought back to film new scenes, but we have to watch the show to find out what happened. So apparently Mark is willing to being back certain models.

I'd be fascinated to hear Mark, Johnny Robins, Sha or Damian Christopher comment on this subject. Good topic Betu.

 

[louis33705]

I feel the same as Mike. I have run across many former Broke Straight Boys models who have and/or are still working for other studios. If I see a model out there who has been engaging in gay sex and then returning and pretending to be straight, that would definitely turn me off. I recently did run across a current model who had done a scene for Baitbus, but that is irrelevant here. While I do not want to start naming names, I will cite a certain instance I saw recently. This was a studio that featured black thugs on white twinks. Anthony (Mikey's straight cousin) was in the scene I watched. In the initial interview, Anthony stated he preferred having sex with men over women. If he was ever to come back (which I doubt would ever happen), it would be a complete turn-off for me and I would not even view the scene. We have recently witnessed the return of two semi-veterans. I feel comfortable in believing that they have not done work outside of Broke Straight Boys I was also very pleased in their scenes that the subject of sexuality did not come up. If anything was mentioned in the interviews it was about their past experiences here. I loved it when Kaden Alexander said Skyler was the one who gave him his first blow job. It was like a homecoming having him back.

So it all boils down to two groups of models. The ones who come here pretending to be straight, having first time experiences and eventually begin discovered that it is not the case. Then we have the ones who have been here before, left and come back with no history of doing work elsewhere. I don't care if they are still straight, if they have been exploring outside of the studio, etc. I just want to hear what they have done in their lives since they were last here. That is what I loved about the two scenes featuring the return of Skyler and Anthony Hunt.

That's my 2 cents on the subject.

 

[joninliverton]

I have not read the original post because he is blocked. Can we not just forget about this instance ffs. How many threads do we need for the same darn subject.

 

[lpdude86]

I have not read the original post because he is blocked. Can we not just forget about this instance ffs. How many threads do we need for the same darn subject.

As many as it takes to make the point that we are trying to make. If a guy is presented to us as straight, broke and never done anything with a guy before we have the right to voice our opinion when we discover that what we have been told is not true.

If a model tells the management of this site that they have never "modeled" before and have never done anything with a guy and it is discovered to not be true I feel that the management also has the right to be pissed off. It is their reputations at stake not ours.

Therefore we all should have the right to express our displeasure with the model who has not been truthful with management or us the paying members.

I know that you will disagree, you always do, and that is is your right.

 

[joninliverton]

As many as it takes to make the point that we are trying to make. If a guy is presented to us as straight, broke and never done anything with a guy before we have the right to voice our opinion when we discover that what we have been told is not true.

If a model tells the management of this site that they have never "modeled" before and have never done anything with a guy and it is discovered to not be true I feel that the management also has the right to be pissed off. It is their reputations at stake not ours.

Therefore we all should have the right to express our displeasure with the model who has not been truthful with management or us the paying members.

I know that you will disagree, you always do, and that is is your right.

Please revisit all the previous solos interviews then reconsider, you will be surprised at all the little white lies that were made.

By the way, have you watched any of Jake's films ??

P.S - I do not always disagree, I just disagree with points that I don't agree with. If you don't like that, then don't read my post.. Simples LP

 

[mikeyank]

As many as it takes to make the point that we are trying to make. If a guy is presented to us as straight, broke and never done anything with a guy before we have the right to voice our opinion when we discover that what we have been told is not true.

If a model tells the management of this site that they have never "modeled" before and have never done anything with a guy and it is discovered to not be true I feel that the management also has the right to be pissed off. It is their reputations at stake not ours.

Therefore we all should have the right to express our displeasure with the model who has not been truthful with management or us the paying members.

I know that you will disagree, you always do, and that is is your right.

I completely agree with your post lpdude!

 

[tampa24]

It always makes for interesting contrasts Betu to see what other people think of this issue. There are some semi veteran models who come back to film scenes and have done work in other studios since then. Strangely or not, I'm one of those who usually doesn't have a problem with that as long as I liked them the first time around. Then I'm interested in catching up with them, seeing how they're doing and what track their life is taking. I don't see them needing to go into a confessional booth on camera to "confess" all the other sites (if any) that they've have worked at since their departure. Generally I cut the returnees much more slack in which ones I find desirable to watch.

If their video work with other studios becomes common knowledge before their return and they are on strictly gay sites acting like sex-crazed gay hustlers... lol (If for instance they are found on bonus sites of Broke Straight Boys) Well, my reaction is cooler if they come back to Broke Straight Boys and proclaim themselves to still be 100% straight and to having had no experience with gay sex since leaving Broke Straight Boys

As for Broke Straight Boys models who might be gay or bi, that's tricky also. Over the years there have undoubtedly been some models here who were gay or bi. That hasn't always meant that the overall membership didn't care for them though. In some cases, quite the opposite. If I find out online or through social media that a Broke Straight Boys model is quite probably gay or bi, I keep it to myself. I don't try to ruin the fantasy for everyone else. If I see popular Broke Straight Boys models performing on other gay sites, I keep it to myself. Why ruin it for others or try to ruin a guy's popularity with Broke Straight Boys fans? What purpose or greater good does it serve? Just to gloat over being smart enough or lucky enough to find "incriminating" evidence on him?

I recall one member scoffing at so many of us because he felt we were being delusional and naïve to think that all of these models were 100% straight. (Like we were all idiots for not seeing what he could plainly see.) Again though we fell back to the fact that there is a certain element of fantasy to the site. We explained that the wool is not pulled over our eyes in every case and we love some of these models as much for who they are as people as much or more so than the quality of their work onscreen. As long as they are straight looking and acting and "believably straight" they'll be given a fair chance by most members. We're not going to throw the baby out with the bath water and insist on some kind of zero tolerance policy for any gay or bi models on the site.

This may sound contradictory but I don't really find fault with those who shared Jake's online porn history with us. I think it's important that models be honest when they first arrive. If they fudge their sexual orientation a little bit, it's more esily forgiven than professing to being a total amateur and having no other online video work. Especially of there is a ton of evidence out there to the contrary.

 

[tampa24]

It always makes for interesting contrasts Betu to see what other people think of this issue. There are some semi veteran models who come back to film scenes and have done work in other studios since then. Strangely or not, I'm one of those who usually doesn't have a problem with that as long as I liked them the first time around. Then I'm interested in catching up with them, seeing how they're doing and what track their life is taking. I don't see them needing to go into a confessional booth on camera to "confess" all the other sites (if any) that they've have worked at since their departure. Generally I cut the returnees much more slack in which ones I find desirable to watch.

If their video work with other studios becomes common knowledge before their return and they are on strictly gay sites acting like sex-crazed gay hustlers... lol Well, my reaction is cooler if they come back to Broke Straight Boys and proclaim themselves to still be 100% straight and to having had no experience with gay sex since leaving Broke Straight Boys

As for Broke Straight Boys models who might be gay or bi, that's tricky also. Over the years there have undoubtedly been some models here who were gay or bi. That hasn't always meant that the overall membership didn't care for them though. In some cases, quite the opposite. If I find out online or through social media that a Broke Straight Boys model is quite probably gay or bi, I keep it to myself. I don't try to ruin the fantasy for everyone else. If I see popular Broke Straight Boys models performing on other gay sites, I keep it to myself. Why ruin it for others or try to ruin a guy's popularity with Broke Straight Boys fans? What purpose or greater good does it serve? Just to gloat over being smart enough or lucky enough to find "incriminating" evidence on him?

I recall one member scoffing at so many of us because he felt we were being delusional and naïve to think that all of these models were 100% straight. (Like we were all idiots for not seeing what he could plainly see.) Again though we fell back to the fact that there is a certain element of fantasy to the site. We explained that the wool is not pulled over our eyes in every case and we love some of these models as much for who they are as people as much or more so than the quality of their work onscreen. As long as they are straight looking and acting and "believably straight" they'll be given a fair chance by most members. We're not going to throw the baby out with the bath water and insist on some kind of zero tolerance policy for any gay or bi models on the site.

This may sound contradictory but I don't really find fault with those who shared Jake's online porn history with us. I think it's important that models be honest when they first arrive. If they fudge their sexual orientation a little bit, it's more esily forgiven than professing to being a total amateur and having no other online video work. Especially of there is a ton of evidence out there to the contrary.

 

[tampa24]

Oops! It wouldn't let me delete the double post. Sorry. haha

 

[johnny]

Oops! It wouldn't let me delete the double post. Sorry. haha

HA HA The Great tampa did a johnny...xoxo

 

[rafe59]

Well to quote another formite...Here is my 2 cents...Thanks Louis...LOLOL........I agree with MikeYank, Louis and Ipdude 86......Part of my attraction to this site is because they are STRAIGHT....Being an old guy, I grew up thru the late 6o's , 70's and early 80's being with straight guys, In my day where I am from there were no gay bars or web sites to meet men like myself....you met men in straight bars, who were horny and high, on either alcohol or weed or both....LOLOLOL....and if they were horny enough you could convince them to allow you to perform oral on them....and sometimes you could talk some of them into more....what a grand old time it was.....I see some of those guys today, married, with grand kids....and I wonder if they remember back to those nights.....Hence my attraction to straight men....It was a grand time....

 

[Stripe222]

So, can we now consider the subject sufficiently raked over the coals, tossed around, explored, committeed to death, it's depths and heights and tales of deceit now fully explored??? Any more positions to be stated ad naseum, feelings that have changed, votes to be altered?

At least until the next ringer slips through the vetting process and we find out he used to belong to the Communist Party and got gangbanged by Putin and a few Comrades on Yankees_and_Commies.com?

 

[mikeyank]

Well to quote another formite...Here is my 2 cents...Thanks Louis...LOLOL........I agree with MikeYank, Louis and Ipdude 86......Part of my attraction to this site is because they are STRAIGHT....Being an old guy, I grew up thru the late 6o's , 70's and early 80's being with straight guys, In my day where I am from there were no gay bars or web sites to meet men like myself....you met men in straight bars, who were horny and high, on either alcohol or weed or both....LOLOLOL....and if they were horny enough you could convince them to allow you to perform oral on them....and sometimes you could talk some of them into more....what a grand old time it was.....I see some of those guys today, married, with grand kids....and I wonder if they remember back to those nights.....Hence my attraction to straight men....It was a grand time....

I agree Rafe and my attraction is similar to yours, and that is why I joined this site originally and not just a site featuring handsome guys who have sex on camera. It is the "twist" of straight having gay sex that hooked me too.

 

[lpdude86]

Please revisit all the previous solos interviews then reconsider, you will be surprised at all the little white lies that were made.

By the way, have you watched any of Jake's films ??

P.S - I do not always disagree, I just disagree with points that I don't agree with. If you don't like that, then don't read my post.. Simples LP

I have read your your posts and really wish I could get back the time that I wasted doing so

I am not concerned with the little white lies, what I have a problem with is the BIG lies (shooting videos for other sites and saying you have never done anything with a guy). I do not blame site management for this but it does tend to influence my opinion of the model who has told the lie.

I live in a country that has free speech as one if its rights and I will continue to voice my opinion on matters that I choose too for as long as I can whether others agree with me or not. You may disagree and that is your right but do not try to silence or smother my opinions with yours.

 

[lpdude86]

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So, can we now consider the subject sufficiently raked over the coals, tossed around, explored, committeed to death, it's depths and heights and tales of deceit now fully explored??? Any more positions to be stated ad naseum, feelings that have changed, votes to be altered?

At least until the next ringer slips through the vetting process and we find out he used to belong to the Communist Party and got gangbanged by Putin and a few Comrades on Yankees_and_Commies.com?

Yankees? Why did you have to mention them? Sorry Mikeyank, that is the team I dislike the most. Go Tribe!!!!

 

[lpdude86]

PS.
I know I will probably get in trouble for my response to Johnliverton. I usually do, let the pms begin!!
But I do feel that I should be able to say what I want whether he likes it or not. 'nuff said.

 

[mikeyank]

So, can we now consider the subject sufficiently raked over the coals, tossed around, explored, committeed to death, it's depths and heights and tales of deceit now fully explored??? Any more positions to be stated ad naseum, feelings that have changed, votes to be altered?

At least until the next ringer slips through the vetting process and we find out he used to belong to the Communist Party and got gangbanged by Putin and a few Comrades on Yankees_and_Commies.com?

I'm sorry that you feel that this thread is a "witch hunt", much as the Joe McCarthy hearings on Communists in our society back in the 1950's. I am friends with Betu who started this thread, and I can assure you that was not his intention, as he is one of the majority who actually enjoys good looking, passionate sexual models, regardless of their orientation. He is very analytical in his approach to the decision making process by management for this site, and as a huge fan of the site, I appreciate his attention to detail.

Speaking for myself, I am a "purist" who joined the site for the real or believably real straight guys to fulfill my own personal fantasies and fetishes, so these matters mean more to me than others, but I am also open minded enough to understand that many members here do not care about the models previous sexual experience or orientation and are only in it for the hot sex, and I respect that too. I understand that everything that goes on here is only porn, and not real life, and should be taken light heartedly and nothing here is really terribly serious. Much as newspaper writers used to call the sports department, the "candy store" of the paper, I look at Broke Straight Boys as a candy store on the internet and is here for my enjoyment and not for anything more serious than that. Life is way too short to take this stuff the same way as we do our politics and world affairs.

 

[mikeyank]

Yankees? Why did you have to mention them? Sorry Mikeyank, that is the team I dislike the most. Go Tribe!!!!

Speaking of which, I am about to get on the subway in the next hour and head up to the big ballpark in the Bronx for an afternoon of Yankee baseball. GO BRONX BOMBERS!!!

 

[lpdude86]

Enjoy your day and the game.