Tyler and Leon

[mikeyank]

Mike,

Deidra and I had a conversation similar to this earlier, although about someone else, but she was talking about "sexy ugly". It made me think of Leon. I'd change that quote to maybe "sexy creepy". I know exactly what it is that bothers me about Leon. He has a totally beautiful body and cock. He is attractive, handsome even, when he isn't too shaggy. He can be charming and interesting. Can be. However... and you guys fully admit to having issues with belly fat and Leon obviously doesn't have any of that, but I'll take a cue from you and mention my "issue"... it's his mouth. I honestly hate to be critical of anyone like this. I think it's petty and disrespectful of someone who is willing to bare himself, literally, for our entertainment. But you said you weren't sure what it is that bothers you. Well, it's his mouth. It's too small, and it's just kind of wrong. Don't quite know why, and it's so awkward for me to say that. Oh, and he plays to the camera. Don't like that at all.

I also feel somewhat uncomfortable criticizing someone's looks or personality, which they cannot control. And when similar criticisms have been issued here, there have been responses like he still looks ten times better than anyone who is doing the criticizing. But I feel that the forum is here for us to discuss the scenes and the models, and if someone goes into this line of work, they must be prepared for negative reviews as well. And over 90% of the models, including one's that I may criticize are guys that I would gladly invite into my home, and bed.

But all that being said, I hadn't noticed Leon's mouth being small, and you are right Jon, it is certainly big enough to swallow oversized cocks very nicely thank you. But it is still a bit off kilter to my sensibilities. Again being petty, his smile and his somewhat yellowish teeth bother me too. And his personality is someone who tries too hard to please, with a seemingly forced laugh. He reminds me of a kid in elementary school who stands up in class to answer the teacher's question, and is a "brown noser", wanting to say exactly what he thinks the teacher wants him to say, while the rest of the class snickers at his over the top trying to please antics.

Again, I apologize for being petty and perhaps crass in my critique of a very well built young guy who performs marvelously on the futon.

To put Leon into prospective for my tastes. I would rate the following models on a scale of one to ten:

Logan 10
Alden 9
Tank Shane 9
Tyler 8.5
Leon 8
Diesal 8 (Another model who is more highly regarded by most than by me).

I'm just choosing a few that pop into my head. Leon is right up there, but just off "greatness" on Broke Straight Boys

I apologize if I've offended any Leon lovers in any way. (Sorry Slim. I still love you, but don't love Leon as much as you do).

 

[Jayman01]

Slim,

Leon just seems to be pretty genuine. What you see is what you get for the most part. I think that is pretty much how Tyler comes across to me too. So, I can pretty much see where these two seem to bond. I just hope both are happy and that Leon helped to make Tyler's Birthday extra special...

 

[Condor6]

To Tyler: Happy Birthday Much Love

 

[tyler25il]

Too much Leon

Yes this shoot was hot but I see we have another Leon coming up...enough already!!!

 

[Ms. Kianna]

Yes this shoot was hot but I see we have another Leon coming up...enough already!!!

Thank you Tyler, for saying, what so many are feeling.

 

[mikeyank]

Thank you Tyler, for saying, what so many are feeling.

Ah ha! An anti Leon movement has emerged. I actually don't mind him, and often enjoy his scenes. I just think he's a bit overated, and isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[joninliverton]

and isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread.

No, I am lol xxxxx

 

[mikeyank]

No, I am lol xxxxx

A comment from our shy young stud over in Great Britain. Why don't you show us your stuff, and let us judge who's hotter?

 

[slimvintage]

Err don't think so Slim. Since this episode time has moved on. Leon has let his hair down, some people like it, some don't, but it doesn't bother me. In a more recent episode the "scruffier" Leon said he would never kiss a guy and that was only for the girls... another model fails the Broke Straight Boys lie detector test. Although your post is, as always, well written, I honestly think that's is a wish list - a love story evolving in yours - and now others' minds. I'd hate to dissapoint but I don't think so.

Of course time has moved on and anything may have happened in the last N amount of months since this film was shot. Happy dreams Slim xx

They really did get on very well, I promise you.

And the most recently shot footage you've seen Leon in was the hotel scene with Scott, way out of chronology since it was a behind the scenes vignette posted pretty much hot out of Dave's camera. You'll agree that Leon was well nigh irresistible in that shoot, right?

 

[clock12]

I think Slim is right on about Leon. What some may be having a problem with is that the guy is geeky. He poses, yes. Often in an awkward, dorky way. When he speaks, his consonants tend toward an over-precision that reveals his self-consciousness on the one hand, and his enthusiastic desire to please on the other. He seems unsure of himself at times, and counters by rather artlessly projecting confidence (usually as a pose or forced smile/laugh) that is easily seen for what it is. No, he is not smooth. The word I would use is "authentic." This is a real person in front of the camera, not a persona. He may by trying to fold it into a persona, perhaps, but his execution is maladroit and obvious. To me, this is utterly endearing. Tyler comes off as more experienced, even world-weary at times in spite of his youthfulness, but no less authentic than Leon in his own way.

OK, Leon plays to the camera. But not in a cheap, wannabe pornie way like some of the other guys with their copycat sultry gazes full of promise directly at the cam, fakey writhings and pantings while vainly attempting to self induce a full erection. (...)

LOL! Ouch! But what a perfect way to put it. Fewer things will turn me off faster than fake "sultry gazes" into the camera and similar tripe.

 

[slimvintage]

I think Slim is right on about Leon. What some may be having a problem with is that the guy is geeky. He poses, yes. Often in an awkward, dorky way. When he speaks, his consonants tend toward an over-precision that reveals his self-consciousness on the one hand, and his enthusiastic desire to please on the other. He seems unsure of himself at times, and counters by rather artlessly projecting confidence (usually as a pose or forced smile/laugh) that is easily seen for what it is. No, he is not smooth. The word I would use is "authentic." This is a real person in front of the camera, not a persona. He may by trying to fold it into a persona, perhaps, but his execution is maladroit and obvious. To me, this is utterly endearing. Tyler comes off as more experienced, even world-weary at times in spite of his youthfulness, but no less authentic than Leon in his own way.

clock, let's both do one of those genetic swab the inside of your cheek tests and see how closely our helixes correspond. Your observations are very perceptive and well put, but on the other hand I think you'll agree with me that for all Leon's dork and geek quotient, he's got a certain self confidence as well. I don't think his jovial, overly gun-ho contributions to a conversation are because he hopes he'll make a hit but wonders if he might not get a sneer instead. On the contrary, he seems to me to be used to being liked, feels himself among friends during the shoots, and would be really non-plussed if anyone dissed him. There's almost a sort of squawky, privileged tone about his discourse, in a good way, that takes for granted a positive reception. He blurts out his happy observations like a clever child who knows mummy will praise his perspicacity.The willingness to be so open and, as you say, authentic, makes me think that he's a well loved, well adjusted geeky-assed dork. A little spoiled maybe, Orange County style, but I couldn't care less about that.

 

[clock12]

Yes, I have to agree that it takes a certain level of self-confidence just to get naked in front of a camera, nevermind the sucking and fucking. And Leon clearly enjoys the work, and he's proud of his body. He's a happy fellow (unlike Tyler?), and I like the geekitude. It makes me feel more comfortable for some reason. I think I like Tyler and Leon so much not only because they are beautiful to watch while performing, but I think it would be fascinating to have a conversation with either of them. There is real substance there, behind the surface mannerisms and pulchritude. I don't feel that in many other models. Though I acknowledge that some may just be better at putting on a persona for the camera and so I don't see it. Alden is another favorite of mine, for similar reasons. But as it's been years since his last appearance he ranks on a different list (ah, memories). Others in that vein for me are Wes and Taz's buddy Sean, but I may be in small company there.

 

[slimvintage]

Yes, I have to agree that it takes a certain level of self-confidence just to get naked in front of a camera, nevermind the sucking and fucking. And Leon clearly enjoys the work, and he's proud of his body. He's a happy fellow (unlike Tyler?), and I like the geekitude. It makes me feel more comfortable for some reason. I think I like Tyler and Leon so much not only because they are beautiful to watch while performing, but I think it would be fascinating to have a conversation with either of them. There is real substance there, behind the surface mannerisms and pulchritude. I don't feel that in many other models. Though I acknowledge that some may just be better at putting on a persona for the camera and so I don't see it. Alden is another favorite of mine, for similar reasons. But as it's been years since his last appearance he ranks on a different list (ah, memories). Others in that vein for me are Wes and Taz's buddy Sean, but I may be in small company there.

It's easy to imagine ghosting into any of Tyler's or Leon's Broke Straight Boys conversations and becoming part of the flow without a hitch. Equally I would be fascinated to know what they talk about together off cam, or, actually, how they talk together off cam would be almost better.

One of the most transparent insights into two people's real life mode of discourse, as seen in a D&E movie, was the last one Ashton did with Eddie Phingerphuck. They are grinningly complicit the whole time, full of slightly opaque repartée that has special meaning to them only. On the one hand it was almost off-putting to have to watch a fetish film where a medical professional sexually molests a young college student while at the same time cackling at private jokes with him. On the other hand it was especially cool to see this genuinely amusing, genuinely friendly duo have so much extra-curricular fun while acting in a scene. The whole thing was more like a BTS rehearsal where the actors get tickled and have to stop. You sometimes see that, faked and now very over, in the "bloopers" during the final credits of a feature length movie.

 

[carking1]

Okay, slim and clock, you two get a room, already! Just kidding. Here I go again, stepping in it. I find myself more and more agreeing with both of you, to the point where clock and I have wondered whether we were twins separated at birth. But, we are going to disagree on this one. I find Leon totally annoying. His personality can only be achieved chemically. No one is that happy all of the time. No one is that upbeat. He is just too much for me. What especially annoys me is when he puts his hands (or other body parts) on my Tyler. I could scratch his eyes out and feel no remorse.

 

[Jayman01]

Okay, slim and clock, you two get a room, already! Just kidding. Here I go again, stepping in it. I find myself more and more agreeing with both of you, to the point where clock and I have wondered whether we were twins separated at birth. But, we are going to disagree on this one. I find Leon totally annoying. His personality can only be achieved chemically. No one is that happy all of the time. No one is that upbeat. He is just too much for me. What especially annoys me is when he puts his hands (or other body parts) on my Tyler. I could scratch his eyes out and feel no remorse.

LMAO, Meow, someone left the cat out of the litter box. Carking, I am a huge Tyler fan too. Wow, do you have me beat... I am not at that point yet.

Tyler you need to send Carking a special care package or something...

 

[tampa24]

Yes, I have to agree that it takes a certain level of self-confidence just to get naked in front of a camera, nevermind the sucking and fucking. And Leon clearly enjoys the work, and he's proud of his body. He's a happy fellow (unlike Tyler?), and I like the geekitude. It makes me feel more comfortable for some reason. I think I like Tyler and Leon so much not only because they are beautiful to watch while performing, but I think it would be fascinating to have a conversation with either of them. There is real substance there, behind the surface mannerisms and pulchritude.

Loquorisne Latinam, Clock? LOL

Well... The degree of pulchritude is up to subjective interpretation. But I won't expound on that.

I am just so happy though to see that Slim and Carking have caught on to such a great new contributor to our happy and dysfunctional little forum. Clock has a richness of vocabulary that few new guys have shown us in many a day. His straightforward points and even his more subtle ruminations are very insightful and well thought out.

I for one would thoroughly enjoy joining him at a high elevation outdoor patio with a pitcher of iced tea. I could imagine spending a whole afternoon talking about our perspectives on life, human interaction from a sociological standpoint, philosophy, religion.. You name it. I'd love to pick his brain.


I would be remiss however if I did not give an honorable mention to the other newcomer, Toddo777. While he doesn't post as often, I have enjoyed his posts tremendously. And for many of the same reasons.

 

[mikeyank]

I find Leon totally annoying. His personality can only be achieved chemically. No one is that happy all of the time. No one is that upbeat. He is just too much for me.

I too do not particularly like Leon. Do you think he is stoned on pot, when he does his scenes? Perhaps that would explain his odd speech patterns, and seemingly inappropriate quips and laughs.

He has a great body, but he is a bit "Eddie Haskelish", if anyone is old enough to remember the old television show.

I totally agree with Slim and Clock and Carking on Tyler, but not Leon. Just a matter of taste, I guess. I would add Logan to the short list of models or former models that I would love to get to know better, even fully clothed. And I appreciate Clock's mentioning Alden in the rarified air of Broke Straight Boys best. He really fascinates me too, (and he is beautiful too).

 

[Ms. Kianna]

I would never want to get on a Tyler/Leon thread and remind you all that JIMMIE is better looking, AND gives better blow jobs than both of them..........

 

[tampa24]

Of course not. You would never do any such thing. LOL

 

[Jayman01]

I would never want to get on a Tyler/Leon thread and remind you all that JIMMIE is better looking, AND gives better blow jobs than both of them..........

I am so glad you would not do that.