Training That Tight Hole - scene thread

[br6205]

Top sites do not make their models do demeaning things, So it is very disturbing seeing a player like Chris do so. It also makes the viewer wonder just how straight such a player can be. Also keep in mind there are other ways to make money & most guys whatever their sexual identity won't do online sex.

 

[dande01]

Top sites do not make their models do demeaning things, So it is very disturbing seeing a player like Chris do so. It also makes the viewer wonder just how straight such a player can be. Also keep in mind there are other ways to make money & most guys whatever their sexual identity won't do online sex.

We don't force models to do anything they don't want to do. It's purely their decision to do this type of work. We always recommend to models to get an education, get a job, and don't rely on this as there a source of income. When it comes to the actual scenes, we discuss each scene in detail and we get the models input so they are comfortable filming.

As with anyone, they have choices in life and this is a choice they make.

 

[mikeyank]

Thank you David for validating my perspective. There are two audiences and as I can attest to, many of the fans of your original work and the earlier Broke Straight Boys-2 days have long ago quit Broke Straight Boys It sure is refreshing to see a scene like this one, for those of us “originalists” still here.

 

[br6205]

Thank you David for validating my perspective. There are two audiences and as I can attest to, many of the fans of your original work and the earlier Broke Straight Boys-2 days have long ago quit Broke Straight Boys It sure is refreshing to see a scene like this one, for those of us “originalists” still here.

Just to remind you I have been a member of Broke Straight Boys from their first year. This is issue is not so much time related but rather what your preferences are!

 

[GoneWithTheWind]

We don't force models to do anything they don't want to do. It's purely their decision to do this type of work. We always recommend to models to get an education, get a job, and don't rely on this as there a source of income. When it comes to the actual scenes, we discuss each scene in detail and we get the models input so they are comfortable filming.

As with anyone, they have choices in life and this is a choice they make.

I’m glad you guys push education, after doing some research into the field of porn recently it seems more like a lucrative hobby then a job. Making a decent wage doesn’t seem all that common but some like Amoranth break into other media, she is huge on twitch and OF seems to have similar potential but I don’t know enough about that one. Porn pays a very good hourly rate but booking jobs can’t be easy with all the competition, one would need to set themselves apart from the crowd in a meaningful way to get any real money.

 

[br6205]

We don't force models to do anything they don't want to do. It's purely their decision to do this type of work. We always recommend to models to get an education, get a job, and don't rely on this as there a source of income. When it comes to the actual scenes, we discuss each scene in detail and we get the models input so they are comfortable filming.

As with anyone, they have choices in life and this is a choice they make.

You misunderstood, I know you do not. I would not be a member if you did. I was referring to another site.

 

[mikeyank]

I’m glad you guys push education, after doing some research into the field porn seems more like a lucrative hobby then a job. Making a decent wage doesn’t seem all that common but some like Amoranth break into other media, she is huge on twitch. Porn pays a very good hourly rate but booking jobs can’t be easy with all the competition, one would need to set themselves apart from the crowd in a meaningful way to get any real money.

I feel very comfortable that David & Eddie treat the guys well, as does Mark and Sha. From what I hear about other studios, I have a lot of respect for the management and ownership here.

 

[br6205]

I feel very comfortable that David & Eddie treat the guys well, as does Mark and Sha. From what I hear about other studios, I have a lot of respect for the management and ownership here.

Fully agree, see the preceding post.

 

[br6205]

What is disappointing after all my time on the Forum as well as the site you could think that. My criticisms are solely for performances and the quantity of scenes NEVER how players are treated. I challenge to find any such posts and yes I am very upset.

 

[dande01]

What is disappointing after all my time on the Forum as well as the site you could think that. My criticisms are solely for performances and the quantity of scenes NEVER how players are treated. I challenge to find any such posts and yes I am very upset.

I can't speak for other studios and what happens behind the scenes. I have heard many crazy stories from models. For some things I know for sure, I will share them because everyone in the industry knows about it and it's not a secret but for other stories, I just take it at face value.

When we are posting about straight boys and members' ratings, you post about treating models in a demeaning manner without specifying the situation. Sort of like out of the blue without any reference. So I ask you? If we are talking about ratings and straight boys and reminiscing about BSB1.0 and the differences today, why would you mention boys being treated in a demeaning way? It is not even part of the subject and conversation we are speaking about.

Perhaps I am a bit sensitive but when someone mentions the models being treated in a demeaning manner without any specification, I must respond because I don't want others to come onto this forum thinking we treat our models in a demeaning way and get what you saying twisted in some miss-communication because you are comparing our studio with other studios that treat model less then we do.

Also, you also can't compare studios to studios. Each studio works differently from the others. What we do here at D&E Productions is different then what other studios operate. I am not saying we do things the right way but when models tell us they feel very comfortable filming with us and enjoy their time here, I feel very humble and appreciate their comments.

By comparing other studios and websites with Broke Straight Boys and our studio, I just don't understand that point when you do that since each studio differs from Broke Straight Boys and what we film compared to others and the types of models. If you can be more specific in your posts, I think that will be a lot more helpful for others to understand your point of view.

 

[mikeyank]

Well said David. You have a great reputation among the models that friends of mine communicate with on social media. You have every right to speak up for yourself. And on a similar note, I want to confirm what I said about former forumites who have quit Broke Straight Boys I spoke to two today about this scene and the reaction of a few on the forum.


Rep said, “Straight guys don’t kiss and rim”. And I spoke to Buckeye1 tonight, the originator of “Hump Day Tales”, and many other threads, still being posted on here. I asked him the same question and he told me that straight guys who do gay porn do not kiss or rim either. I agreed as I recall many of David’s original boy say, “kissing is too intimate”, and that is something they do with their girlfriends only. I know it’s incongruous to suck cock, but not to kiss. But that is how they think.

In addition to these two guys, RRHill has told me that Broke Straight Boys has become too gay for him. And we had both JLipps and Abush11 rejoin the site and posted on the forum within the last couple of years and both left very quickly for the same reason. Tampa is still here but almost never comments on current scenes. Peter does enjoy some of the new boys, but so many more have left, never to be heard from again.

David is exactly right that the old audience largely left, and much of the newer membership wants all out gay sex with kissing, rimming and love making. This scene is an old school scene and the majority of current membership expects something different in 2023. It is just the way things are.

 

[Jaybifla]

I actually disagree with the kissing. I think some straight guys would because some will do it at parties as a dare to impress women, so I would think some would do it for money. I think it depends on the person.

 

[Jaybifla]

That being said, I’m not going to tank my score on a scene if rimming or kissing isn’t in the scene. If there is a shot of the straight guy’s hole somewhere in the scene, preferably that shot from behind while they’re fucking the bottom, then I’m happy.
I know I’m weird. I don’t expect to see anyone top who doesn’t want to but I always want to see their ass. That’s just me

 

[mikeyank]

That being said, I’m not going to tank my score on a scene if rimming or kissing isn’t in the scene. If there is a shot of the straight guy’s hole somewhere in the scene, preferably that shot from behind while they’re fucking the bottom, then I’m happy.
I know I’m weird. I don’t expect to see anyone top who doesn’t want to but I always want to see their ass. That’s just me

And keep on being you. As Billy Joel sang, I love you just the way you are.

 

[Jaybifla]

One thing I will say that I loved about the after scene that ties into what I was saying about the straight guys and their asses. I absolutely LOVE that William pulled his legs back to show his asshole after he took that dick. I’d like to see that more in these after scenes. Only if the model feels comfortable. I was impressed that William just did it on his own. Nice touch.

 

[mikeyank]

One thing I will say that I loved about the after scene that ties into what I was saying about the straight guys and their asses. I absolutely LOVE that William pulled his legs back to show his asshole after he took that dick. I’d like to see that more in these after scenes. Only if the model feels comfortable. I was impressed that William just did it on his own. Nice touch.

After scene was very cool too. A great weekend of Old School BBS!

 

[br6205]

I can't speak for other studios and what happens behind the scenes. I have heard many crazy stories from models. For some things I know for sure, I will share them because everyone in the industry knows about it and it's not a secret but for other stories, I just take it at face value.

When we are posting about straight boys and members' ratings, you post about treating models in a demeaning manner without specifying the situation. Sort of like out of the blue without any reference. So I ask you? If we are talking about ratings and straight boys and reminiscing about BSB1.0 and the differences today, why would you mention boys being treated in a demeaning way? It is not even part of the subject and conversation we are speaking about.

Perhaps I am a bit sensitive but when someone mentions the models being treated in a demeaning manner without any specification, I must respond because I don't want others to come onto this forum thinking we treat our models in a demeaning way and get what you saying twisted in some miss-communication because you are comparing our studio with other studios that treat model less then we do.

Also, you also can't compare studios to studios. Each studio works differently from the others. What we do here at D&E Productions is different then what other studios operate. I am not saying we do things the right way but when models tell us they feel very comfortable filming with us and enjoy their time here, I feel very humble and appreciate their comments.

By comparing other studios and websites with Broke Straight Boys and our studio, I just don't understand that point when you do that since each studio differs from Broke Straight Boys and what we film compared to others and the types of models. If you can be more specific in your posts, I think that will be a lot more helpful for others to understand your point of view.

There is no place for any porn site to mistreat its players. Broke Straight Boys stands among those that ALWAYS treats its players with respect and has since it opened. Ast how I express myself that has been a problem with some not all others. Rather than jumping to a wrong conclusion please ask me to clarify . I hate to offend any one and apologize if I have.

 

[peterh6308]

Top sites do not make their models do demeaning things, So it is very disturbing seeing a player like Chris do so. It also makes the viewer wonder just how straight such a player can be. Also keep in mind there are other ways to make money & most guys whatever their sexual identity won't do online sex.

So a guy straight or Bi who contacts a site called Broke Straight Boys to make extra money doing gay sex and all that entails, this is doing demeaning work? As a gay man I'm completely offended by this remark. Gay sex in any contexts is not demeaning. I'm pulling your gay card buddy!!

 

[br6205]

So a guy straight or Bi who contacts a site called Broke Straight Boys to make extra money doing gay sex and all that entails, this is doing demeaning work? As a gay man I'm completely offended by this remark. Gay sex in any contexts is not demeaning. I'm pulling your gay card buddy!!

Once again what I said was misinterpreted I did not say gay sex was demeaning I said some less reputable sites make players do demeaning things and I specifically said Broke Straight Boys never makes their players do demeaning things. If you had bothered to read the full conversation you might have not said what you did. It is comments like these that make me think to stop posting anything but pictures or better quit the Forum and just download the episodes as I have since the site opened.

 

[kgmets2]

This scene was a flashback to the BSB1.0 days. When I filmed it, I felt like I was back in time. William is the real deal. I think the reason why this scene started out with a very low score is that most of the members on the site today are expecting "gay porn".

Back in the BSB1.0 time frame, that was 15-20 years ago. We didn't have social media like today so it was much easier to find guys that were bisexual and more on the straight side of the fence. Back then these guys considered themselves straight and as time revealed, they married women and have children and now lead a straight lifestyle.

Back then the guys were on the down low and didn't want the world to know they were having gay sex for money. It was much easier back then to film a solo and introduce a newbie then work them into an oral scene and have them finally do anal and it worked because most of the time, these guys were not on other sites, they came to us fresh and new-faced. They weren't all over social media having sex with other guys and they kept it a secret from their friends and family. Back then the members had the opportunity to see these new guys having "taboo" sex either together or with another gay boy. The members back then loved watching BSB1.0 because there was no other site out there like it and it was very different from all the other sites that had your normal "gay sex" of kissing, sucking and rimming, and anal and cum swallowing and breeding and such that you would watch on your run of the mill gay porn site.

But times were changing. While I was on my 9-year break from filming Broke Straight Boys, the new studios that took over had their hands full. They had to deal with social media, so now you hire a bisexual straight boy to only find out that he's worked with other studios, has a presence on social media having sex with other guys, or showing off they have a boyfriend. So the lure of Broke Straight Boys was starting to fade as times were changing in the industry. The production studio that filmed Broke Straight Boys at that time had to make adjustments to production to stay current with the changes. Thus *I think* pissed off a lot of the original members and they decided to cancel their memberships because now the changes were normal gay sex.

Although the boys during this time were very HOT and very good-looking, they were seen all over the internet filming for other studios and then they had their presence on social media so it really affected filming on Broke Straight Boys It didn't look good when you have a site called "Broke Straight Boys" and they didn't seem broke or straight.

This was a dilemma for Broke Straight Boys and things needed to be tweaked and a whole new group of members joined Broke Straight Boys, these new members expect the boys to kiss, do oral, rim and do anal, and everything to do with gay sex. The production crew at that time had to disclose more of the truth about these guys so that the members would not feel angry or deceived by what they were watching.

As time went on, I came back filming but with a whole new understanding of Broke Straight Boys and what has changed. We can no longer do solos and introduce that new boy as really new since they have already filmed with other studios. We can't do oral because they have already filmed for another studio doing oral and so that only left me one thing to do to film them having normal gay sex but disclose their story. There were no more "straight" boys applying and any boy we do hire they all have social media presence having gay sex. This is an issue we just can't resolve so we have to work with what we get and make the best of it. When we do get that diamond in the rough and that once-in-a-blue-moon straight boy we hire them.

The members today don't really get if the boy is really straight because these boys aren't really into "gay sex" so these members rate them low because they don't want to rim, or perhaps kiss or do things they normally don't like doing. For example, Chris Star is not thrilled with doing this type of work but he needs the money (broke) he just had a baby with his girlfriend so now he is really broke and he is considered straight but will hem and haw about doing it. Ricky Bobby is another new model that considers himself straight and we have others. Thankfully, if you visit them on their social media, they are having sex with girls or just doing solos.

Then you have William. Again he considers himself straight but decided to do this because he is broke and in his mind, he was able to do this. William was a bit clumsy, kept an open mind, and tried his best but he did keep limits to what he will do and what he will try. William is straight so with that being said, I think the members are divided into two groups. The old members that appreciate BSB1.0 get this scene with William and the new members that are expecting "gay sex" from all the models that appear on this site.

I understand both sides and the viewpoints of both sides. What I say to the new members that expect gay sex, is to keep in mind that this is a site called Broke Straight Boys with an emphasis on the word straight. Every once in a while we are going to get a straight guy or a bisexual straight guy applying to the site that doesn't wish to rim or perhaps kiss or perhaps suck dick but the idea he is straight and they are just here for the money and that is okay. We should not penalize any model for trying their best because they want to make some extra money. In many cases, we will hopefully bring back this type of model or it may be a one-week filming and they have decided this type of work is not for them.

For the old-timer members that love the old BSB1.0, times have changed, models have changed, we don't live back in 2003,2004,2005 and social media has changed for the worse in our industry. Now with only fans and sites like that, plus Twitter, we can't get straight boys as we did 15-20 years ago. Today these guys are open more about sex, they identify themselves with all sorts of pronouns, they film with other studios all over the place, and members today are expecting a lot more from studio work but we have to respect their remarks and their input and except the new times we live in because it's just going to keep on changing for either the worse or the better.

Very informative and excellent comparing and contrasting between present times and 15-20 years ago!