Did you hear about the priest who had a cock and ten hens in a coop behind the parrish house? Each morning he fed them and gathered the eggs. One Sunday he went to gather the eggs and the cock was missing. He came into Mass and stood at the altar and said, "Has any of ya' seen a cock?" All the men stood up. "No," he says, "ya' misunderstand. Has any of ya' seen someone else's cock?" All the women stood up. "No," he says, "ya' got me wrong, "has any of ya' seen a cock what doesn't belong to ya'?" Half the women stood up. "No, no, no!" He cried, "Has any of you seen my cock?" Two priests, sixteen altar boys, and a goat stood up," and the old priest fainted!
I, too, live in a small rural community and you are spot on about everything. One of my favorite subjects is called four years later, when you sit with friends four years after commencement and discuss the number who graduated four years ago and came out while away at university. In a Mormon community the number can be staggering!
But, Jay, I think the evolution could not have taken place had not the propensity always been present. A prisoner can learn to tolerate, even appreciate, gay sex, but not become gay unless the proclivity already existed. In which case he is not evolving into a homesexual, he is merely opening up a door that has heretofore been closed within him. If we say we can 'learn' to be gay, then we have to admit the converse, that we can 'unlearn' it - and I have seen too many lives destroyed in that attempt.
Rifle, The priest story was very funny. I am glad to see we agree about the rural communities too.
I think I understand what you are saying much better now. However; some evolution has to take place. I don't believe that being gay or bisexual is a learned behavior. I do believe that the whole concept revolves around our feelings, our beliefs, our attitudes, and our internalized perceptions of gay sex.
For example: I never thought about sex at age 9 before that first game of truth or dare. I thought of building forts, playing baseball, playing basket ball, and developing my skills in the martial arts. The day I got my first BJ, I discovered how good that felt and that my penis could be so much more than just a way to relieve my bladder pressure. I also discovered that it feels pretty good inside a vagina. So, for me; the first thing was. "Humm, that feels good." Sucking dick or eating pussy was never all that appealing to me in the beginning. I just discovered that I could get more BJ's if I would do those things in return. Again, I was 9 and I really had more on my mind than sex most of the time. My friends and I all had sex off and on until we were about age 13. At that time we discovered that it was wrong (not socially acceptable by the supposed moral majority) to be gay. This was a belief of unacceptability imposed by the church and society. Although, if my friends and I went camping; BJ's always seemed to happen. We all agreed to not talk about it because we did not want to be labeled as "Gay."
Shortly after I hit age 14, I discovered the advantages of flexibility that comes with years of martial arts and wrestling. While stretching one day I discovered that I could lay on my back throw my legs over my head and place my knees beside my ears. I could also open my legs and press my hips to the mat. "Wow, my balls sit right on my nose." That night I discovered I could blow myself. That was a real discovery. LOL So, I could get a BJ anytime I wanted one if I was alone. No body to negotiate with, no thought of homosexuality, just pure hot raw sex when ever I wanted. Best of all their were no thoughts of how do I keep my friend from trying to cum in my mouth. I had total control. I eventually learned to swallow my own cum in a BJ. I think in those days I loved my self more than anyone else. LOL
I had sex with two different male friends between age 14 and 17 while camping and playing truth or dare only. The rest of the time I had girlfriends. I got several BJ's. Hummm, amazing how nobody's BJ's really compared to my own. Then I went to the service. I was self sexual for the most part until I was 20. The women I dated were a lot of fun. I even dated this nympho who was deaf. One day she stopped by and dropped off lunch and she crawled under my office desk and blew me while I tried to carry on business as usual, with people coming in and out of the office. Dam, she was fun. The strobe lights and vibrating bed in the morning took some getting used too but she was fun. Then she dumped me for another guy. Shortly after that, I finally met a guy who could suck some cock. Suddenly, I was like, wow, there people who can give head as good as me. Let's find them. At that time it was all about the BJ's and never anything anal. I started going to Gay bars or even the E-club from then on to pick up guys to experiment with. Eventually, I met enough people who wanted anal sex I gave it a try. Wow, that was awesome. I eventually tried it my self. Then I looked in the mirror and I said Hummmmm, where am I with all of this. Am I gay, bi, or straight. I knew I still liked women. I still have fantasies about them from time to time. But I found my self thinking about guys a bit more. So, said I guess this is what Bisexual is all about. LOL
I finally decided that there had to be something wrong with the church's views on gay sex. It was an intrinsic belief or knowing that the church was wrong. I began a self journey to study theology: the Bible, the Quran, The Torah, and the Sudra at first. Then I moved to the dead sea scrolls, the gnostic scriptures, and the Nag Hamadi Codices. Later in life I met Mel White who was a theological scholar and ghost writer for Jerry Fallwell. He is Gay. He really helped fill in a lot of holes as did Rev. Dan Chesboro, and Tom Sawyer. Poof, I learned the truth and how religions used their dogma to control their congregations and manipulate thinking and subdue self thought and expression.
I do not believe in accidents. Everything happens for a reason. "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." From my first exposure to gay sex I began a journey of self discovery. What I can say is that had the opportunity to engage in gay sex not presented itself; I may not have had the opportunity to find me. For me I needed an introduction to start the wheels moving. I cannot say, how things would have evolved with out the introduction. If it feels great how can it be wrong? Why should people feel guilty about sexual pleasure regardless of how they find it?
We all come from the same source and we will all return to the same source. It is the Universal Law of One. To belittle or run down another person who does not see things as we do; passes an unfair judgment and it only serves to hurt us in the long run. When I run someone else down; I run me down. We are one. We are each unique and different in our own way but we are one with all that is, all that was, and all that will be. I AM that, I AM...
We are both masculine and feminine in nature. The right side of our body emanates our masculine energy. The left side of our body emanates our feminine energy. Therefore, we are both masculine and feminine in nature. When these energies are in perfect balance we are in a complete state of homeostasis and optimal health.
When I see the guys perform on this site whether it is for money or not they are learning that they can share themselves sexually with another being even someone of the same sex. The money is just the catalyst that stimulates the initial motivation.
Rifle, I believe as people evolve their souls grow from one lifetime to another lifetime. The concept of being gay, straight, or bisexual is inconsequential. It is more an evolved state of self limitation. I only identify as bisexual because it the best label definition that society has imposed that most people can relate with.
I am a spiritual being experiencing a human condition. My spiritual form is androgynous just as that of an angel. My physical manifestation is that of a male in this lifetime. Being human confines my outer shell to third dimensional reality. I cannot wait until more souls awaken to this truth and we can evolve past the labels of gay, bisexual, and straight and we can just be spiritual beings experiencing the gratification of unconditional love by raising our vibrational frequency to that of divine love and transcending our experiences beyond the third dimensional corporal body.
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