Sweaty Kaden Porter Fucks a Glistening Oliver Saxon

[juanjo]

I can only comment that the critique of the "discrepancies" in the background story is a rather trivial matter on either side. I do not care if Oliver is studying to become a neurologist or a cosmetologist. Or is simply a stripper making extra money. I want him to be an enthusiastic performer.

Criticizing sock choices and reading ideas about sexual orientation into them frankly is pathetic and petty. I see straight guys who have started wearing some pretty wild socks - they are common as sin among guys in their 20's and the fact that someone who is now 40, 50 or 60 would never have worn them when they were in their teens or twenties means nothing. It is like the current fad of shaving off pubic hair and body hair. When I was a 20 something if you saw someone who had shaved off their body hair they were either a competitive swimmer or were treated for a bad case of crabs or body lice.

Then there is the simple fact that anyone who is speaking on personal matters in an interview on a porn website would be crazy to be too truthful. I am not saying that any of those posting here are creeps who might decide to take the "facts" stated in an interview and use them to track down a model here. That said I have represented a couple of people who had to seek retraining orders against people who had become obsessed with them. This is why most people in the porn industry have fake names and back stories so that they do not answer the door one day and find some freak with restraint and a gun.

As an attorney I would advise any model to never release any information which might even remotely lead to someone tracking them down. That is simple self preservation.

 

[juanjo]

There is something I just do not get and it's not a young man reacting to comments made about/against him - it's the reaction of grown men reacting to the youngster's reaction.

Ok, it has been hacked to death that models should not be "allowed" to come onto the members forum and express their opinions, unless of course they share the same opinions as the "members". So they are not supposed to come on the forum and post any response to a post about them, so they must resort to their own Twitter account to make their feelings known, too. Then, "members" make their way to THEIR Twitter account to THEIR comments, get pissed off and come back to Broke Straight Boys where they use the models opinion to rate the models scene - that's fucked up.

The way I see it, contrary to the way some people feel - we, the members DO NOT pay the model's salary, we pay our dues to the site in return for the porn provided; our membership in the forum is a bonus GIVEN to us by Broke Straight Boys based on a paid membership. Broke Straight Boys also GIVES a membership to the forum to the models, so just what makes our opinion so sanctimoniously better and more defend-able than that of a model; we have the same free membership gifted to all of us. We expect the models to let things roll off them without reaction, but if they can do that, can we, the members not also be expected to do the same thing?

I have been working in the court system for many years and I guess I try too hard to see an issue from all sides but in this case it appears to be so one-sided I just don't have enough sense to keep my opinion to my self.

Well said. I am always amused at think skinned queens who seem to think they can cut loose with whatever comments they wish no matter how phrased or how potentially catty or petty but then think they cannot be called on the nastiness. Sorry but that whole free speech concept means if you post a comment someone else takes dispute or offense with, then be prepared for a critique. Public speech is not a "safe zone".

 

[oldfart63]

I can only comment that the critique of the "discrepancies" in the background story is a rather trivial matter on either side. I do not care if Oliver is studying to become a neurologist or a cosmetologist. Or is simply a stripper making extra money. I want him to be an enthusiastic performer.

Criticizing sock choices and reading ideas about sexual orientation into them frankly is pathetic and petty. I see straight guys who have started wearing some pretty wild socks - they are common as sin among guys in their 20's and the fact that someone who is now 40, 50 or 60 would never have worn them when they were in their teens or twenties means nothing. It is like the current fad of shaving off pubic hair and body hair. When I was a 20 something if you saw someone who had shaved off their body hair they were either a competitive swimmer or were treated for a bad case of crabs or body lice.

Then there is the simple fact that anyone who is speaking on personal matters in an interview on a porn website would be crazy to be too truthful. I am not saying that any of those posting here are creeps who might decide to take the "facts" stated in an interview and use them to track down a model here. That said I have represented a couple of people who had to seek retraining orders against people who had become obsessed with them. This is why most people in the porn industry have fake names and back stories so that they do not answer the door one day and find some freak with restraint and a gun.

As an attorney I would advise any model to never release any information which might even remotely lead to someone tracking them down. That is simple self preservation.

Damn if that wasn't my whole point point to begin with, Jaun. The comment WAS trivial, very much like pointing out how a scene in a movie is showing the speedometer in a car chase at 80 miles an hour while it also shows the shift is in PARK. Is was a mistake, a faux pas, a simple discrepancy mentioned as a tongue-in-cheek afterthought in what was otherwise a post that complemented Oliver's part in the scene. I made the remark in a forum where I thought members could make comments to each other. The only reason Oliver didn't come directly after me was because he did that to another member who made an innocuous criticism on the forum and admin banned him from the forum. Do you really think it's necessary that a member forum eliminate any kind kidding around or interaction between those members that isn't a purely serious review of fine art? Since I haven't seen any other models going off on a twitter rant about what someone said about his socks, maybe Oliver is the one who needs to butch up.

 

[mikeyank]

Damn if that wasn't my whole point point to begin with, Jaun. The comment WAS trivial, very much like pointing out how a scene in a movie is showing the speedometer in a car chase at 80 miles an hour while it also shows the shift is in PARK. Is was a mistake, a faux pas, a simple discrepancy mentioned as a tongue-in-cheek afterthought in what was otherwise a post that complemented Oliver's part in the scene. I made the remark in a forum where I thought members could make comments to each other. The only reason Oliver didn't come directly after me was because he did that to another member who made an innocuous criticism on the forum and admin banned him from the forum. Do you really think it's necessary that a member forum eliminate any kind kidding around or interaction between those members that isn't a purely serious review of fine art? Since I haven't seen any other models going off on a twitter rant about what someone said about his socks, maybe Oliver is the one who needs to butch up.

I'm still with you oldfart63. You made an innocuous remark to your fellow forumites here in good fun, and Oliver reacted like a diva and started naming the names of the forumites and badmouthing them on twitter which I'm sure made no sense to his twitter followers either. Bad form Oliver. Very bad!

 

[oldfart63]

I'm still with you oldfart63. You made an innocuous remark to your fellow forumites here in good fun, and Oliver reacted like a diva and started naming the names of the forumites and badmouthing them on twitter which I'm sure made no sense to his twitter followers either. Bad form Oliver. Very bad!

Thanks Mike. I have one last comment to make and I'm done here. I have no doubt that the majority of people who made the disparaging remarks about the thin-skinned members being mean to Oliver never even saw the comments that "offended" him or his name calling tweet, so I have to admit some embarrassment about continuing to comment on this subject. It's hard to for me to believe now that I was actually one of those few people mentioned in the Halloween episode who were concerned that Ronan Kennedy had hurt Oliver during their scene. What an irony it is now that Ronan Kennedy is the one whom I really respect. Damn the comments of those cruel, nasty queens...



Now off to read more about the news that Tanner and Gage Owens are coming back. Oh Tanner!

 

[Leedwb]

I couldn't' disagree more. I don't see how we pay dues. This isn't a country club where we are seeking some sort of exclusivity. We don't apply to Broke Straight Boys and hope that they will accept us as a member. This is indeed a business, and there is plenty of competition out there. Our membership fees pay for for some things, but our membership draws in advertisers who pay for the set design to the equipment used and yes, the models salaries. And don't forget what the owner of the site eventually gets for putting up with all the headaches. If you lose membership, you lose advertising revenue.

Having spent the 17 years of working as a site manager in the highly competitive field of property management, I know first hand how competition works. I'm not talking about the guy who gets an apartment and a small salary to oversee 30 or 40 apartments (though I have done that briefly), I mean managing communities of 350 to 650 units with a full time staff of up to 20 people. It can be a daunting job and you certainly can meet a lot of unreasonable people. If I had an employee take criticism from a resident I can totally accept that they would gripe about that resident with their co-workers. Hell, I would be totally willing to commiserate with them and share stories of some of the assholes I've had to deal with. But if that employee went to other residents, or went online to a social media site and complained about a resident by name and called them "dumb fuck" or suggest that they could go someplace else, you bet your sweet ass that employee and I would have a serious talk about it. It's incongruous to expect someone to pay for something and be totally fine with the person in receipt of their money calling them names behind their back.

I don't envy Broke Straight Boys admin on this issue at all. It's damn hard (no pun intended) to find good employees, but you can't discount the customers either. The member forum is what makes Broke Straight Boys unique, so I would hate to see them do away with it. I also think it's silly to "not allow" models to view the forum if they wish. Ronan Kennedy handled himself very maturely by addressing a totally unjust criticism directly and without name calling, and ended up with a sincere apology. Maybe Broke Straight Boys should have Ronan Kennedy meet with the models on "How To Adult". There's obviously more to that young man than a sweet face and a big dick. If you're a Broke Straight Boys, it should be easier to swallow some inconsequential criticism that to swallow some cum.

OF, I have no problem at all with your disagreeing with my opinion - plenty of room for that in my world. Please explain, though, how you obtained membership in this site without paying membership dues, and please don't use semantics to justify the comment. We all, each member, pay a fee to belong to this site and I would venture a guess that you joined this site for the visual effects and if you were like most of us, had no idea about the operation of the forum before joining.

In regards to your comparing a career in what I will refer to as the real-estate market to membership in a porn site, it appears to me to have absolutely no parallel. The monies which you and I and every other member pays is indeed a membership due which we pay to access the videos contained on the site. If you don't think so, stop paying them and see how long they remain available to you - it really is that simple. I do understand what you are trying to imply - membership = market for advertisers, same as any business. I got that. I also know that before there were members, there had to be performers who were paid before the first member was signed up. I understand there is a relationship between the performers and the members - both are necessary, however, I do not feel one group is any more important than the other. I also feel that when we discuss maturity, that can be done without including a discussion of who pays and who performs. There can be members who act even more infantile than the much, much younger performers.

I have simply stated my own opinions, I have not directly spoken ill of anyone, member or performer but yet, there have been some replies concerning my post which have an almost angry tone to them - if I have stepped on anyone's toes or hurt their feelings or have done anything which may lead someone to think I have questioned their ability to have their own opinion, that is unfortunate as it was not intended to do so.

 

[oldfart63]

OF, I have no problem at all with your disagreeing with my opinion - plenty of room for that in my world. Please explain, though, how you obtained membership in this site without paying membership dues, and please don't use semantics to justify the comment. We all, each member, pay a fee to belong to this site and I would venture a guess that you joined this site for the visual effects and if you were like most of us, had no idea about the operation of the forum before joining.

In regards to your comparing a career in what I will refer to as the real-estate market to membership in a porn site, it appears to me to have absolutely no parallel. The monies which you and I and every other member pays is indeed a membership due which we pay to access the videos contained on the site. If you don't think so, stop paying them and see how long they remain available to you - it really is that simple. I do understand what you are trying to imply - membership = market for advertisers, same as any business. I got that. I also know that before there were members, there had to be performers who were paid before the first member was signed up. I understand there is a relationship between the performers and the members - both are necessary, however, I do not feel one group is any more important than the other. I also feel that when we discuss maturity, that can be done without including a discussion of who pays and who performs. There can be members who act even more infantile than the much, much younger performers.

I have simply stated my own opinions, I have not directly spoken ill of anyone, member or performer but yet, there have been some replies concerning my post which have an almost angry tone to them - if I have stepped on anyone's toes or hurt their feelings or have done anything which may lead someone to think I have questioned their ability to have their own opinion, that is unfortunate as it was not intended to do so.

If you wish to use fees and dues interchangeably, I have no problem with that. The fact is that either way, this is indeed a business, and my comparison with what I had done was just to illustrate that in any business there are going to be times when customers and providers are going to get into disagreements. There is also a time and place for each party to let off steam, as it were. The only option for members is the member's forum. The models always have their time around the house when they're not in production to commiserate with what comments any member has made. The point I was trying to get at was that Oliver expressing his displeasure on his twitter acct was done in a way that was way above and beyond what the original statements deserved. When I made the comment about his college status, it was far from the point of my post. The point of my post was that I actually liked Oliver's performance in the scene. I also mentioned Kaden Alexander's part in the scene. The entire business about college was an afterthought, and was never meant as anything more that noticing a small, innocent mistake. It was like pointing out that someone was wearing a red shirt in one frame and when the camera returned the shirt was a slightly different color. It was a comment made about a mistake in the production, not any kind of a criticism of Oliver's performance. It was another member who mentioned the socks, and again it was not in any derogatory way. In fact we were joking that any kind of backstory is not something to be taken literally. If you can point out what specifically it was in either of our posts that deserved the response Oliver made in his twitter account, I will gladly apologize for it. I have yet to have anyone critical of the members comments to point out anything other than the mean old members attacking the poor young performer, when I have no idea how that ever happened. Please reread my comment and the other comment that was made. Then reread Oliver's twitter post and see if you felt that his comments were appropriate or not.

By the way, this is not the first time that Oliver has done this. He verbally attacked another member directly on the forum for making an innocuous comment that was hardly abusive. Even admin felt that Oliver had gone overboard and banned him from commenting on the forum. In fact, the models will even make humorous comments during the scenes that reflect the chatter that goes on in the forum. There seems to be the constant topic of "is he really straight or is he gay", which was part of the banter long before i ever joined. From time to time you'll hear a model say, "You suck dick pretty good for a straight guy" or some such comment, and they'll both start laughing. Don't tell me that they didn't get that from the members' forum. At least they can have a sense of humor with it.

The whole affair was nothing more than members being taken aback by a model's personal, name calling attack against specific members on another social media site when there was no attack made against him. I have serious doubts about how many people that piled on in this thread actually read either of the original posts or Oliver's actual tweet. There were certainly nasty comments made, but nothing specifically from a post, only generalities. It's a pity that members are given a forum to discuss things among themselves, but have got to be constantly worried about making an innocuous joke because a model (and only one model) will take offense where none was intended. If your going to be in the entertainment business, you ought to know your audience.

 

[SFPS01]

wow! I have been away for a few days with house guests, and just had an opportunity to get caught up on some previous scenes and then the forums...... Lots going on and a lot of comments. I may need to go take a nap to recover (from the forums, not the house guests).
So many well spoken words, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, etc. Its amazing how one very gay little obnoxious twit can bring out the best in us. There are some very smart, wise gentlemen that are members of this site. Bravo! Now if we can just find Dorothy's red shoes and give them to Oliver!

 

[SFPS01]

wow! I have been away for a few days with house guests, and just had an opportunity to get caught up on some previous scenes and then the forums...... Lots going on and a lot of comments. I may need to go take a nap to recover (from the forums, not the house guests).
So many well spoken words, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, etc. Its amazing how one very gay little obnoxious twit can bring out the best in us. There are some very smart, wise gentlemen that are members of this site. Bravo! Now if we can just find Dorothy's red shoes and give them to Oliver!

Forgot to mention, the next time Oliver decides to slap Kaden Alexander across the face at the end of scene, he best use spray starch on both wrists, as he is dealing with a real man in Kaden Alexander and might find himself flat up against the wall. The look on Kaden Alexander's face at that moment was "priceless".

 

[mikeyank]

wow! I have been away for a few days with house guests, and just had an opportunity to get caught up on some previous scenes and then the forums...... Lots going on and a lot of comments. I may need to go take a nap to recover (from the forums, not the house guests).
So many well spoken words, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, etc. Its amazing how one very gay little obnoxious twit can bring out the best in us. There are some very smart, wise gentlemen that are members of this site. Bravo! Now if we can just find Dorothy's red shoes and give them to Oliver!

I really liked your post SFPS01. I was only away at work for hlaf a day and I now have so much to catch up on too. Busy day on the forums!

 

[oldfart63]

wow! I have been away for a few days with house guests, and just had an opportunity to get caught up on some previous scenes and then the forums...... Lots going on and a lot of comments. I may need to go take a nap to recover (from the forums, not the house guests).
So many well spoken words, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, etc. Its amazing how one very gay little obnoxious twit can bring out the best in us. There are some very smart, wise gentlemen that are members of this site. Bravo! Now if we can just find Dorothy's red shoes and give them to Oliver!

Glad to see your post SFPS01. Way too much of a shitstorm over an innocuous remark. You really didn't need to deal with that after house guests. And I have no doubt that the most obnoxious and insulting posts were from guys who never read the original posts involved. Oh what facebook has wrought, let's just throw critical thought out of the window. If you see a juicy dogpile, just jump on. And I do not now, nor do I want anything to do with Twitter. As far as I'm concerned, it should be called Clitter.

 

[johnny]

Now don't hate me. I have just started liking Kaden Alexander more. He is not my ideal. But there is something I am starting to like about the boy.
Maybe I feel he is a Honest guy that is trying hard. I just read he will be Fucked by Rowan.Disappointed..
Now here is where the don't hate me comes in.
But I feel Kaden Alexander deserves better. If Rowan dose not do a great job. Like Chris did.He should take a break. And come back when he can.
Fuck or get Fucked. Like I said before cute is good. But this is porn. Cute is not enough.

 

[ScottA]

Now don't hate me. I have just started liking Kaden Alexander more. He is not my ideal. But there is something I am starting to like about the boy.
Maybe I feel he is a Honest guy that is trying hard. I just read he will be Fucked by Rowan.Disappointed..
Now here is where the don't hate me comes in.
But I feel Kaden Alexander deserves better. If Rowan dose not do a great job. Like Chris did.He should take a break. And come back when he can.
Fuck or get Fucked. Like I said before cute is good. But this is porn. Cute is not enough.

First of all, I'm glad you are warming up to Kaden Alexander. I'll have to stop bashing your Tanner and Gage Owens now! As for Rowan, yeah, I agree, he's cute as a button, and obviously wants to give it the old college try. My concern is that he seems to have a problem staying hard, which is a real turn-off. Nerves may have something to do with it, and is forgivable, but after three or four scenes you should be over that. If for whatever reason you can't do it then you just can't do it. No shame to that, but there comes a point when it's time to "shit or get off the pot," as the gross saying goes! I'm hoping he works out because I really like him, and not just looks-wise -- he seems like an honestly nice young man.

 

[elyot1]

Like I said before cute is good. But this is porn. Cute is not enough.

Right on, Johnny.