And that won't bother me at all. Since you are probably the most ardent fan of the franchise in here you are bound to be more critical of any new films. There were a few things that I would have liked to have seen them handle differently. But certainly not enough to discourage anyone from seeing it. I look forward to hearing your comments about the film.
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And that won't bother me at all. Since you are probably the most ardent fan of the franchise in here you are bound to be more critical of any new films. There were a few things that I would have liked to have seen them handle differently. But certainly not enough to discourage anyone from seeing it. I look forward to hearing your comments about the film.
Tampa, I agree it was a well made movie and they spared no expense. Wonderful special affects. They did explain a lot of things. I do have some thoughts or suggestions that I feel should wait. I did think the characters were pretty well done for the most part. Most of my issues were cosmetic in nature and in regard to the lucidity of command structure. I may be with Vicekid on this one. It certainly did leave lots of room for sequels.
Agreed. They did play very fast and loose with issues of chain of command in a supposedly very strict military culture.
A someone who's always watched a Star Trek movie twice on opening day and is a continuity nerd (I can even name various treaties from the different series0 I'd like to go on record as having zero problem with any changes t hey made. I thought most improved the status quo and ensured a future for my second favorite sci fi franchise...
I would be thrilled to see any sequels they have in mind for this cast. If they could even eventually spin it off into another TV series that would be cool too. Nothing they do with this franchise would surprise me anymore. It's been resurrected many times after its obit has been written.
i2ina69
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yes a sequel would be great. I'm going again on friday. It'll make the 9th time.
Kodieboy
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I have it but havent watched it yet .. i cant go to see it ... put me in a crowded dark room i fall asleep lol
I agree. My only question is how will they honor the Rodenberry's for their historical contribution? Not that I can do anything one way or another. I would like to see them honored in some way...
Hey Guys,
In thinking over the new movie I thought I might share one of my favorite stories about the original series. I read it in a Star Trek magazine a few years ago. I hope you enjoy it.
First of all though I'm sure that Nichelle Nichols (Lt. Uhura) is happy to see her character in the new movie portrayed in such a positive light. In the movie she is very bright, confident, beautiful, sexy and takes no crap from anyone. Don't get me wrong guys. I don't swing the other way. But I know what a pretty woman looks like! LOL
Anyway... Nichelle Nichols did not have an easy go of it in 1966. She was cast as Lt. Uhura but the character was not written with enough depth to suit her desire to prove herself as an actress. Gene Rodenberry deserves high marks for showing us a multiracial, multicultural and possibly a multiplanetary future. He was way ahead of his time and he was on the right side of history.
Nonetheless Nichols chafed under a character written as a glorified secretary. She really started to resent it. They gave her little to do or say from her point of view. She was always terribly busy "opening hailing frequencies" and putting communications "on screen". She might also have felt like she was just there as a token black.
None of the cast nor even possibly Rodenberry himself knew what they had in the late 60's. They didn't realize that they had captured lightning in a bottle. They had no idea after barely surviving being cancelled one or two years out that they would become a pop culture phenomenon for decades to come. Who knew then that the characters would become household names? The actors had no idea that they were part of something that would make them cultural icons. That they would get residuals from feature films and they could get an income doing sci-fi conventions where they would be treated like royalty by their fans. And all this even when they were well advanced in years.
Nichelle Nichols was so fed up with the lack of good material that she was very seriously ready to quit the show. Then the stars aligned just right and on one fine day she met the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He told her how pleased he was to meet her. He thanked her effusively for her work on the show. He told her that she was a pioneer and a role model for other blacks. Very few blacks up to that time got regular work on network television. The fact that the name of her character "uhura" is the Swahili word for freedom (and all the connotations that carried in the 60's) didn't hurt either. She was dumbfounded by Dr. King's high praise. And from that day on she vowed to stay on the show. Even more fervently so I'm sure after Dr. King was killed.
She was given a little more material as the show progressed and she did get a chance to act a bit more. She was a pioneer in a different sense when Lt. Uhura kissed Captain Kirk in one famous episode. It's considered the first biracial kiss on network television. That was shocking and scandalous stuff at the time. But it was typical Rodenberry who was always eager to pull the public's imagination and attitudes a few centuries ahead.
In thinking over the new movie I thought I might share one of my favorite stories about the original series. I read it in a Star Trek magazine a few years ago. I hope you enjoy it.
First of all though I'm sure that Nichelle Nichols (Lt. Uhura) is happy to see her character in the new movie portrayed in such a positive light. In the movie she is very bright, confident, beautiful, sexy and takes no crap from anyone. Don't get me wrong guys. I don't swing the other way. But I know what a pretty woman looks like! LOL
Anyway... Nichelle Nichols did not have an easy go of it in 1966. She was cast as Lt. Uhura but the character was not written with enough depth to suit her desire to prove herself as an actress. Gene Rodenberry deserves high marks for showing us a multiracial, multicultural and possibly a multiplanetary future. He was way ahead of his time and he was on the right side of history.
Nonetheless Nichols chafed under a character written as a glorified secretary. She really started to resent it. They gave her little to do or say from her point of view. She was always terribly busy "opening hailing frequencies" and putting communications "on screen". She might also have felt like she was just there as a token black.
None of the cast nor even possibly Rodenberry himself knew what they had in the late 60's. They didn't realize that they had captured lightning in a bottle. They had no idea after barely surviving being cancelled one or two years out that they would become a pop culture phenomenon for decades to come. Who knew then that the characters would become household names? The actors had no idea that they were part of something that would make them cultural icons. That they would get residuals from feature films and they could get an income doing sci-fi conventions where they would be treated like royalty by their fans. And all this even when they were well advanced in years.
Nichelle Nichols was so fed up with the lack of good material that she was very seriously ready to quit the show. Then the stars aligned just right and on one fine day she met the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He told her how pleased he was to meet her. He thanked her effusively for her work on the show. He told her that she was a pioneer and a role model for other blacks. Very few blacks up to that time got regular work on network television. The fact that the name of her character "uhura" is the Swahili word for freedom (and all the connotations that carried in the 60's) didn't hurt either. She was dumbfounded by Dr. King's high praise. And from that day on she vowed to stay on the show. Even more fervently so I'm sure after Dr. King was killed.
She was given a little more material as the show progressed and she did get a chance to act a bit more. She was a pioneer in a different sense when Lt. Uhura kissed Captain Kirk in one famous episode. It's considered the first biracial kiss on network television. That was shocking and scandalous stuff at the time. But it was typical Rodenberry who was always eager to pull the public's imagination and attitudes a few centuries ahead.
vicekid
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Hey Guys,
In thinking over the new movie I thought I might share one of my favorite stories about the original series. I read it in a Star Trek magazine a few years ago. I hope you enjoy it.
First of all though I'm sure that Nichelle Nichols (Lt. Uhura) is happy to see her character in the new movie portrayed in such a positive light. In the movie she is very bright, confident, beautiful, sexy and takes no crap from anyone. Don't get me wrong guys. I don't swing the other way. But I know what a pretty woman looks like! LOL
Anyway... Nichelle Nichols did not have an easy go of it in 1966. She was cast as Lt. Uhura but the character was not written with enough depth to suit her desire to prove herself as an actress. Gene Rodenberry deserves high marks for showing us a multiracial, multicultural and possibly a multiplanetary future. He was way ahead of his time and he was on the right side of history.
Nonetheless Nichols chafed under a character written as a glorified secretary. She really started to resent it. They gave her little to do or say from her point of view. She was always terribly busy "opening hailing frequencies" and putting communications "on screen". She might also have felt like she was just there as a token black.
None of the cast nor even possibly Rodenberry himself knew what they had in the late 60's. They didn't realize that they had captured lightning in a bottle. They had no idea after barely surviving being cancelled one or two years out that they would become a pop culture phenomenon for decades to come. Who knew then that the characters would become household names? The actors had no idea that they were part of something that would make them cultural icons. That they would get residuals from feature films and they could get an income doing sci-fi conventions where they would be treated like royalty by their fans. And all this even when they were well advanced in years.
Nichelle Nichols was so fed up with the lack of good material that she was very seriously ready to quit the show. Then the stars aligned just right and on one fine day she met the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He told her how pleased he was to meet her. He thanked her effusively for her work on the show. He told her that she was a pioneer and a role model for other blacks. Very few blacks up to that time got regular work on network television. The fact that the name of her character "uhura" is the Swahili word for freedom (and all the connotations that carried in the 60's) didn't hurt either. She was dumbfounded by Dr. King's high praise. And from that day on she vowed to stay on the show. Even more fervently so I'm sure after Dr. King was killed.
She was given a little more material as the show progressed and she did get a chance to act a bit more. She was a pioneer in a different sense when Lt. Uhura kissed Captain Kirk in one famous episode. It's considered the first biracial kiss on network television. That was shocking and scandalous stuff at the time. But it was typical Rodenberry who was always eager to pull the public's imagination and attitudes a few centuries ahead.
Tampa,
That is a great story. I had the pleasure of hearing Nichelle tell that story at one of the Star Trek conventions I went to some years ago.
You also know the story of Ensign Chekov. As you know in the mid 1960's there was a space race going on between us and the USSR. The Russian let it be know that they not happy there was no Russian on the ship. Especially since there were other nationalities represented. Second season, welcome Chekov.
Live Long and Prosper,
Vicekid
i2ina69
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wow those conventions sound great, I would like to go to one someday. Do they still have them?
i2ina69
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what's your first?
vicekid
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Yes they do. Most are part of a general Sci-Fi convention, but some of those are more geared to Star Trek, others to Star Wars, etc. They do happen around the US. We have a big one every year in S. Calif.
Live Long and Prosper,
Vicekid
thomas1023
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Tampa - Not to copy your entire quote again, and I'm no trekie by any means, but the episode which stands out to me most with Uhura is when several were transferred to an alternate universe and Uhura had to distract one of the crew who was attacted to her and then pulled a knife on him when the blinking light stopped. Loved that!!!
thomas1023
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Baal - Never saw too many of the original Dr Who, but have enjoyed the new Dr Who on BBC America, sometimes replayed on SciFi channel!
