So over Axel

[admin]

Axel has been released and won't be back. This decision was actually made back in June. He wasn't with us during the July shoots.

We do have 3 scenes of his that haven't been released yet that we will try to space out. You don't have to worry about us filming him in the future.

So he still has scenes left with Grey Donovan, Brandon Evans, and Xavier Ryan that were filmed a few months ago that will be released slowly over time.

He was a true straight guy and truly broke. Alas, it didn't work out.

 

[mikeyank]

Axel has been released and won't be back. This decision was actually made back in June. He wasn't with us during the July shoots.

We do have 3 scenes of his that haven't been released yet that we will try to space out. You don't have to worry about us filming him in the future.

So he still has scenes left with Grey Donovan, Brandon Evans, and Xavier Ryan that were filmed a few months ago that will be released slowly over time.

He was a true straight guy and truly broke. Alas, it didn't work out.

Thanks for letting us know Bryce. Perhaps kopguy will realize that management does read this "bum fuck message board". lol

I'm jvmitten as a paying member, kopguy19406 in this bum fuck message board that no one in management at Broke Straight Boys ever reads or bothers to even take seriously,

 

[admin]

Perhaps kopguy will realize that management does read this "bum fuck message board". lol

--> lol... every message

 

[Youngandconfused22]

I think this is actually good news. I’m really not a fan of models that refuse to get better or try anything new. Axel was gorgeous and could have become a great model but this does not come as a surprise. When you are in a gay porn you have to be able to try stuff you haven’t before.

 

[kopguy19406]

Axel has been released and won't be back. This decision was actually made back in June. He wasn't with us during the July shoots.

We do have 3 scenes of his that haven't been released yet that we will try to space out. You don't have to worry about us filming him in the future.

So he still has scenes left with Grey Donovan, Brandon Evans, and Xavier Ryan that were filmed a few months ago that will be released slowly over time.

He was a true straight guy and truly broke. Alas, it didn't work out.

Amen! Thank you! Looking forward to fresh faces and G4P guys who are willing to go along for the ride and evolve. Glad that we now know Management is listening.

 

[petefromsaintpete]

Ok, so here's my 2 cents. Different strokes for different folks. I actually like Axel, and there is something hot about his reservations. I don't really feel the need to bash any of the models or comment on the size of their dick, or tattoos etc. if I don't like a certain model, I don't watch their scenes. The only recommendation I would make is more diversity. I wish there were more Black, Latin and Asian models on this site.
Please don't take offense to my post and interpret it as me trying to read any of you.

Jaybifla I agree 100% with you. Thanks. and welcome to the forum. This is one of the longest thread in a while. Another Floridian, great.

 

[Repareur]

I appreciate management chiming in on Axel and I also appreciate that they let us ramble on bitch complain and praise without a lot of interference. I’m sure I wouldn’t still be here without the forum. I once lived and worked among a lot of gay people and friends. That’s no longer the case and I really appreciate the interaction we have here amongst other gay people, and others like women into gay porn that I woukd not have known existed.

I believe Axel is straight but I also think he like the others who would not progress in what they would try should go. If he was so afraid of a dick he really picked the wrong business. There were many greats from the past like Diesal but my favorite example from my time on the site is Abram Hoffer That was a beautiful straight guy that gave it the good old college try. I wish he would have stayed for more scenes.

 

[SGVBOB]

I am wondering WHY you aren't as harsh with your comments with RYAN who/when, out of his 50 scenes to date, has only bottomed for ONE FIFTH(and that is being generous), of his scenes= out to only 20% of his scenes? He doesn't have a 'golden dick', in my opinion.

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Agreed, totally!!! So yeah, I'm jvmitten as a paying member, kopguy19406 in this bum fuck message board that no one in management at Broke Straight Boys ever reads or bothers to even take seriously, so here's what I posted on Axel's latest disastrous recorded moment fucking in front of the camera as a G4P "straight" porn-star...

("Axel Kane fucks Ryan Fields", his 8th "with a guy" scene on Broke Straight Boys): Seriously?!?!? WTF?!?! AXEL MUST BE LET GO!!! Axel is a disaster and a waste of time for all paying members to say the least. See my previous comments on his last scene... TOTAL DISASTER, AGAIN! Management at Broke Straight Boys simply isn't listening to their PAYING members and there are plenty of other hot guys or ones in the rafters just waiting for the chance to be on Broke Straight Boys who are willing to go along for the ride. Axel has a nice body, no one is going to deny him that, but THAT IS IT! No passion, no "intimacy" with his scene partner and no enjoyment of the moment, he doesn't suck dick, won't get fucked, when he kisses, it's like a dead fish, and is only looking to be serviced in his scenes. Doesn't do it for me. FAKE!!! He's been working on other sites where that's wanted, but that's not what the members want here. Management needs to get Axel on board with the Broke Straight Boys mantra (go along for the ride and develop as a G4P actor) or, as simple as it is, it's just time for him to move on... CUT HIM LOOSE! WASTE OF MONEY! DONE!

On his prior scene, this is what I wrote:

("Axel Kane pounds out Drake Tyler," his 7th "with a guy" scene on Broke Straight Boys): So seriously, I'm not really into "straight guy" Axel Kane. He's overly trying to prove that he's straight. He does have a hot body, but other than that, not really much else is going for him. Not a cute face, not a big dick, just a piston fucker plugging away into someone's ass. Some may find that hot, but I for one do not. He has little to no "passion" with any of his recent scene partners--not much of a kisser, doesn't bring the "heat" where it needs to be, and utterly self-serving. Seriously, he's been on other sites and maybe that's where he should remain if he want's to keep up that persona, but not here--all other "straight" guys have shown gradual progression over time. He needs to get on board with the Broke Straight Boys mantra and want to earn his money and do more for the members here, otherwise, he's a waste of money for all members of this site. I think it's time for him to move on. I'd like to see him go along for the ride, but I seriously doubt he has what it takes.

If I were to go back and rate his other previous scenes, it would be more of the same... REPETITIVE!!! BORING!!!

If other members feel the same way, chime in now, otherwise, we're the ones getting screwed out of our money as paying members here... Management should listen to what we want, but, we may not know if he's in a dedicated term contract that they don't want to let him out of for financial reasons, so we may need to "suffer through" this BS. He's been on several other sites that haven't re-upped him, and his performances are most likely the reason why. It's disturbing that management here at Broke Straight Boys would sign up for something like this without getting him to commit to evolving as a performer when his prior performances at other sites have been lackluster (ie, "I'm a self-serving, selfish top only and won't do anything else") to say the least...

 

[prodigal]

I am wondering WHY you aren't as harsh with your comments with RYAN who/when, out of his 50 scenes to date, has only bottomed for ONE FIFTH(and that is being generous), of his scenes= out to only 20% of his scenes? He doesn't have a 'golden dick', in my opinion.

It probably has to do with the fact that Axel is so much hotter. People wanted to see more of the hottie putting out more. The weird part to me is there seems to be as large a contingent of people disliking the fact there are so few actually straight guys on Broke Straight Boys as there are people who dislike straight boys acting like they're straight boys...

 

[mikeyank]

The weird part to me is there seems to be as large a contingent of people disliking the fact there are so few actually straight guys on Broke Straight Boys as there are people who dislike straight boys acting like they're straight boys...

What you say is very true, but they are not the same people. I guess as with politics there is a percentage of the country who totally buy into the current administration, while the rest of us think it is total bullshit!

I am a declared and registered part of the contingent here who dislike the fact there are so few actually straight guys on Broke Straight Boys And quite honestly the fact that Axel didn't bottom and didn't want to suck dick doesn't bother me at all. As Rep mentioned Abram only bottomed once and came across as the straightest possible type of model on this site. But the difference is that Abram turned me on with his sexiness and sensuality while Axel had a hot body and a pretty smile, but kind of left me unimpressed with his sexuality. I guess as with all things in life, it all comes to personal preference.

 

[SFPS01]

What you say is very true, but they are not the same people. I guess as with politics there is a percentage of the country who totally buy into the current administration, while the rest of us think it is total bullshit!

I am a declared and registered part of the contingent here who dislike the fact there are so few actually straight guys on Broke Straight Boys And quite honestly the fact that Axel didn't bottom and didn't want to suck dick doesn't bother me at all. As Rep mentioned Abram only bottomed once and came across as the straightest possible type of model on this site. But the difference is that Abram turned me on with his sexiness and sensuality while Axel had a hot body and a pretty smile, but kind of left me unimpressed with his sexuality. I guess as with all things in life, it all comes to personal preference.

Very well said Mikeyank........It's a little sad to me that there are complaints when they do and there are complaints when they don't. With as diverse group of viewers as we have here, its nearly impossible to please everyone all of the time. I guess if there is enough squawking and bashing the squeaky wheel gets greased. While there is no question that paying membership needs to be satisfied, a little kinder, more gentle voices of dissension would go a long way, even with paying members. I am a bit tired of all the comments that there aren't enough real straight guys on this site and yet when one comes along that is "real" he gets bashed for not doing enough "gay" stuff. News flash, this is the real world!... I think management tries its best to give the membership as much as possible to satisfy the "fantasy", but unfortunately they are not working with a Walt Disney budget..........As always,everyone is entitled to their own opinion, likes and dislikes.

 

[mikeyank]

Thanks SFPS, however there is another factor that we need to keep in mind. As Broke Straight Boys has shifted from the inexperienced more "believably straight" models over the years, (for various reasons, all discussed many times, on the forum), the membership has also shifted. It makes sense that the majority of the members paying for the more straightish guys seeing the shift are no longer here. And the one's who remained and the new current members are enjoying what they are paying for.

It is largely the hard line old-timers, like myself who remain, that lament the lack of guys who we would call straight currently on Broke Straight Boys I of course remain for the forum, the history and the archives from the days of David, Clay, Johnny Robbins, etc. when a Broke Straight Boys looked like and acted like a straight boy. But to quote the late great forumite Johnny from San Francisco, "that's just me". lol

 

[elyot1]

I am wondering WHY you aren't as harsh with your comments with RYAN who/when, out of his 50 scenes to date, has only bottomed for ONE FIFTH(and that is being generous), of his scenes= out to only 20% of his scenes? He doesn't have a 'golden dick', in my opinion.

I agree, SGVBOB, To me Ryan is like Chinese food. You're horny an hour later.

 

[peterh6308]

Well Axel to me is much like Vadim Black to me. Good body's and attractive but have little dicks so shouldn't be topping anyway!!!

 

[kgmets]

Who else is over Axel? What a waste of time.[/QUOTE

Gay for pay guys have gay sex. If he can’t suck dick and get fucked he doesn’t have a place in gay porn as far as I’m concerned.

I see where you are coming from and get your point, but I could tolerate a gay for pay straight guy who declines to give up his virgin ass, but my bottom line is that he should at least kiss his scene partner and suck his scene partner's dick just to show that he is actually doing a gay porn scene.

 

[tampa24]

Seriously?!?!? WTF?!?! AXEL MUST BE LET GO!!! Axel is a disaster and a waste of time for all paying members to say the least. See my previous comments on his last scene... TOTAL DISASTER, AGAIN! Management at Broke Straight Boys simply isn't listening to their PAYING members and there are plenty of other hot guys or ones in the rafters just waiting for the chance to be on Broke Straight Boys who are willing to go along for the ride. Axel has a nice body, no one is going to deny him that, but THAT IS IT! No passion, no "intimacy" with his scene partner and no enjoyment of the moment, he doesn't suck dick, won't get fucked, when he kisses, it's like a dead fish, and is only looking to be serviced in his scenes. Doesn't do it for me. FAKE!!! He's been working on other sites where that's wanted, but that's not what the members want here. Management needs to get Axel on board with the Broke Straight Boys mantra (go along for the ride and develop as a G4P actor) or, as simple as it is, it's just time for him to move on... CUT HIM LOOSE! WASTE OF MONEY! DONE!

On his prior scene, this is what I wrote:

So seriously, I'm not really into "straight guy" Axel Kane. He's overly trying to prove that he's straight. He does have a hot body, but other than that, not really much else is going for him. Not a cute face, not a big dick, just a piston fucker plugging away into someone's ass. Some may find that hot, but I for one do not. He has little to no "passion" with any of his recent scene partners--not much of a kisser, doesn't bring the "heat" where it needs to be, and utterly self-serving. Seriously, he's been on other sites and maybe that's where he should remain if he want's to keep up that persona, but not here--all other "straight" guys have shown gradual progression over time. He needs to get on board with the Broke Straight Boys mantra and want to earn his money and do more for the members here, otherwise, he's a waste of money for all members of this site. I think it's time for him to move on. I'd like to see him go along for the ride, but I seriously doubt he has what it takes.

If other members feel the same way, chime in now, otherwise, we're the ones getting screwed out of our money as paying members here... Management should listen to what we want, but, we may not know if he's in a dedicated term contract that they don't want to let him out of for financial reasons, so we may need to "suffer through" this BS. He's been on several other sites that haven't re-upped him, and his performances are most likely the reason why. It's disturbing that management here at Broke Straight Boys would sign up for something like this without getting him to commit to evolving as a performer when his prior performances at other sites have been lackluster (ie, "I'm a self-serving, selfish top only and won't do anything else") to say the least...

Such a feeling of deja vu when I read this. We are kindred spirits on this issue Kopguy.

 

[tampa24]

Jaybifla I agree 100% with you. Thanks. and welcome to the forum. This is one of the longest thread in a while. Another Floridian, great.

Yay! haha

 

[tampa24]

[This may sound at times like it is only directed at Mikeyank. That’s not my intention though. So for the rest of you, please feel free to read on and/or comment as you wish.]


I was thinking the exact same thing Mikey. Many of the same points I was making in 2011 regarding Jimmy Johnson are the same points being made (quite forcefully and succinctly) by newer members now.

I don't wish to re-ignite a disagreement with you over him (for the umpteenth time) that would leave us both in the same place as before, like dogs chasing our own tails. My feelings of disdain for JJ are already very well known in here, and have not changed at all over time. (Especially after his filming on the Broke Straight Boys-TV show.)

All this said, I think I do have something new to add as it pertains to comparisons between JJ and Axel. I think that back in 2011 that the straightest (or at least straightest acting) gay for pay models, really could get a few concessions in the American porn market. They were kind of sought after by sites as they were/are(?) seen as being the "Forbidden Fruit" of the gay world. No pun intended. lol But especially so for sites like Broke Straight Boys, where being a straight, gay for pay model was and is, considered a plus.

Nowadays though in the ever shrinking and consolidating premium porn market, where people are still willing to pay money for the higher quality porn…for (among other things) better content, better models and better picture quality…the patience level of both site subscribers and the studios themselves, are pretty much in synch on the point of wanting more immediate results from the models.

For instance I loved Diesal from the very beginning and had no problem with his work ethic and commitment because he was totally charming and charismatic on camera. I suspect though that even a great model like Diesal would not in today's market be given the time of over a year to "develop" and get into a greater comfort zone for committing himself more fully to gay sex. Of course Diesal all along would at least suck a dick and commit to his scene partners. I’m very glad Diesal was given that time. It didn’t bother me (with him in particular) that he wouldn’t bottom. But I believe people today would be clamoring for him to bottom. And much more quickly.

In today's world, a straight (or straight-er) gay for pay model cannot reasonably expect for studios to give him top dollar, plus "consideration" and permission to get away with doing only the very minimum of gay sex acts in order to put a standard scene together. The "Because I’m straight." argument just isn’t gonna fly. If you want the job and the money, you have to be wiling to do the work. Or it's a non-starter. That doesn't necessarily mean that said straight/straight-er model has to be bottoming and moaning and screaming in pleasure like a banshee in heat, in his third or fourth scene. lol But he should be willing to suck a dick and convince the audience that he is at least trying to give them a good show for their money.

If there are obvious signs (or even subtle ones) that a model is just going through the motions… Or if a model gives off the vibe that paying audience members should be grateful for the fact that such a wonderful straight model like himself is showing up for them up at all... Well that's going to go over much less well today than it would have in 2011. Why? Partly because there is decent porn out there available for free.

Of course a trademark of Broke Straight Boys is that they are willing to take a chance and give opportunities to amateur first-time models. And the audience here is aware of that for the most part, and therefore has more patience than members on sites with only seasoned professional gay models. We sometimes get some first-timer, boy-next-door kind of guys who are not experienced in front of a camera at all, nor are they always above average in looks and sexual skill…but they win us over by their personalities and their performances. We are more patient with them as they learn the ropes and even develop a range of acting skills.

I am not going to go into character assassination mode on Axel and pretend to be a mind reader or a crystal ball expert as to what would have happened had he stayed longer. Neither I, nor we, can say with any certainly how things would have played out.

But even here on an amateur reality site like Broke Straight Boys, if it looks like a model is not going to give us any more than he’s currently giving… Or if it looks like he will (or might) try to guilefully and cynically play us like a tune, and bleed us dry financially with mediocre scenes… And drag out his “straight boy evolution” for months on end…With no guarantee he will ever “evolve” and decide to suck a dick, or bottom, or try to make convincing believable connections with his onscreen partners…. After he’s taken all our money for tens of mostly lackluster scenes… haha

Well… As a family member of mine likes to say in moments of deadpan and hilarious biting sarcasm…

Ain’t nobody got time for that. LOL

 

[tampa24]

I will repeat that I am no longer a fan of Axel's for various reasons, however I do agree with your basic premise Prodigal.

Truth be known, as a "historian" of Broke Straight Boys and this forum, I am seeing remarkable parallels in the comments here regarding Axel to those regarding Jimmy Johnson during the "year of Jimmy" back in 2011. My position then and now is that ALL fans of Broke Straight Boys do not have the same desire to see only mutual kissing, sucking and fucking, and some of us are turned on by a guy who proclaims and perhaps overstates his straightness and does not want to kiss, suck dick and certainty to get fucked by a guy.

Perhaps Axel as with Jimmy is appearing in too many scenes in too close proximity to one another, but I do believe that Broke Straight Boys should have at least some guys for those of us turned on by the idea of a so called straight guy getting sucked by and fucking a gay guy.

This is the quote I am replying to in the above post. I meant to quote it beforehand. haha

 

[mikeyank]

In response to Tampa's previous two posts, I stick by my premise and I repeat, "I do believe that Broke Straight Boys should have at least some guys for those of us turned on by the idea of a so called straight guy getting sucked by and fucking a gay guy." Keep in mind that membership of this site or any site are not all of one monolithic way of thinking.

I thought that Aston Taylor was very cute and I didn't mind that he was not about to bottom. His problem for me was his lack of keeping an erection.

And while you Tampa believe that models who do not perform the way you want them to are "bleeding us dry financially with mediocre scenes…", I on the other hand like straight guys who do not want to suck or get fucked, so much as with beauty, a mediocre scene is in the eye of the beholder.

And as long as you brought it up again, I sincerely believe that Jimmy was brought out of retirement on Broke Straight Boys by Mark for the TV show to play the character of the villain, and he did a great job, but it was acting, not reality. There were little scenarios that were set up to add spice to the program. The mother of his son did not just show up on set coincidentally to the fact that they were filming a TV series, as well as the other scenes that were played out, including him being "thrown out" of the house. He wasn't a resident. lol He was invited to play a part on the show. He did his scenes and went home with another paycheck signed by Mark. lol