Romeo and Johnny

[centex]

Enjoyed this one very much guy's you did a awesome job with the video it on spot the interaction was awesome both ways keep up the good work

 

[cumrag27]

Another "N-Word"

I wish people would stop calling some of the guys Nelly, I find it rather offensive to say the least. Gay people get enough name calling from the straights, let alone from our own side.

Dear Jon,

Thank you for pointing this out!!! I agree with you completely on this topic!

I always feel offended every time I hear the term "nelly" being applied by a specific gay person in a "pejorative" way. I view it as the Gay equivalent to the racist expressions using the "N-word". Its use seems intended by design to put others down by implying the one speaking with is so much more morally superior than the object of the communication. Lets face it, can you ever imagine this term "nelly" ever being used to make someone else feel complemented? Of course not!

I can't see why this would have to be so difficult to avoid monitoring one's speech by just being a little more careful? We aren't always so lucky to be as "butch" as others might prefer. That is no one's fault necessarily and I strongly believe it should not be frowned down upon by others. We are not totally in charge of how one is perceived by their peers anyway! Even with the best of intentions, some of use may from time to time be perceived in a unfavorable manner, beyond our own control or intent.


Sincerely,



Stimpy

 

[joninliverton]

Dear Jon,

Thank you for pointing this out!!! I agree with you completely on this topic!

I always feel offended every time I hear the term "nelly" being applied by a specific gay person in a "pejorative" way. I view it as the Gay equivalent to the racist expressions using the "N-word". Its use seems intended by design to put others down by implying the one speaking with is so much more morally superior than the object of the communication. Lets face it, can you ever imagine this term "nelly" ever being used to make someone else feel complemented? Of course not!

I can't see why this would have to be so difficult to avoid monitoring one's speech by just being a little more careful? We aren't always so lucky to be as "butch" as others might prefer. That is no one's fault necessarily and I strongly believe it should not be frowned down upon by others. We are not totally in charge of how one is perceived by their peers anyway! Even with the best of intentions, some of use may from time to time be perceived in a unfavorable manner, beyond our own control or intent.


Sincerely,



Stimpy

Thanks Stimpy, it appears that there are a few decent people about after all.

 

[KellyG]

I have just stopped caring about what other people think Fuck em

 

[mikeyank]

Dear Jon,

Thank you for pointing this out!!! I agree with you completely on this topic!

I always feel offended every time I hear the term "nelly" being applied by a specific gay person in a "pejorative" way. I view it as the Gay equivalent to the racist expressions using the "N-word". Its use seems intended by design to put others down by implying the one speaking with is so much more morally superior than the object of the communication. Lets face it, can you ever imagine this term "nelly" ever being used to make someone else feel complemented? Of course not!

I can't see why this would have to be so difficult to avoid monitoring one's speech by just being a little more careful? We aren't always so lucky to be as "butch" as others might prefer. That is no one's fault necessarily and I strongly believe it should not be frowned down upon by others. We are not totally in charge of how one is perceived by their peers anyway! Even with the best of intentions, some of use may from time to time be perceived in a unfavorable manner, beyond our own control or intent.


Sincerely,



Stimpy

Dear Stimpy,

I read your reply earlier this morning when I first woke up, and I've been thinking about your words all morning, as it gives me a different perspective than I had when I originally commented on the use of the word "nelly". I took it as a light hearted gay colloquialism that gay men use among ourselves to describe our fellow gay brethren. To me it is a word like "butch", or "queen", "auntie", "chicken hawk" or saying "her" to describe another gay guy. I always thought of it as word that a bunch of gay guys at a party or at the bar use in a light hearted self deprecating way.

However being that I've sort of "passed" through life for being straight, or at least not usually being pegged as an obvious homosexual in non gay settings, I've rarely experienced what some of the more affected gay guys have gone through starting at an early age, where they may have been bullied by the straight kids, and so hearing a fellow gay man referring to a guy as being "nelly" may strike a cord reminiscent of their childhood fears of being beat up or at least ostracized for being gay.

Of course I've had some of it, as when I was at a boy scout jamboree at age 14 or 15 and when my troop was mixed with scouts from other parts of the city, and a few guys in the tent opposite mine must have picked up on my checking them out at the lake or in the showers, and every night as we were going to sleep I would hear a couple of guys from the tent across from me saying, "(my last name) is a faggot", over and over. My tent mate from my own troop just told me to ignore them, but it hurt. Interesting they never said anything to my face during the day, but only at night when we were in our closed individual tents.

There was also a kid named Robert who joined our boy scout troop later on when he moved to my neighborhood, and I was always a leader of scout "initiations" for the new scouts which always involved "pantsing" the new guys, and he must have noticed my eagerness in getting his pants and underwear off and seeing his young cock. He quit the scouts shortly thereafter, but I can clearly remember him walking by me in the street and as I tried to say hi to him, he called me a faggot.

So while my situations were rare, but I can still remember them clearly, I can relate to those who may have experienced similar treatment by other kids on a continued basis, and so I can certainly understand the hurt involved in hearing any of those pejorative words even uttered today by our fellow gay brothers in relation to a model or a scene here on Broke Straight Boys

Thank you Stimpy for making me think a bit harder and enlightening me as to how words can still hurt even in adulthood.

 

[joninliverton]

Thats the problem isnt it. Albeit that you elders were name called during your youths, you still think it fit that you can call us youngsters by the same names you were called by. I'm afraid it doesn't work these days...

 

[mikeyank]

Thats the problem isnt it. Albeit that you elders were name called during your youths, you still think it fit that you can call us youngsters by the same names you were called by. I'm afraid it doesn't work these days...

That's not exactly what I was saying Jon, but you can take it any way you like.

Now I think it's time for the folks who loved watching Romeo and Johnny to get the thread back on track.

 

[stowe1]

I wish people would stop calling some of the guys Nelly, I find it rather offensive to say the least. Gay people get enough name calling from the straights, let alone from our own side.

I find it interesting that you, of all people, would be offended by a descriptive adjective; after some of the awful things that you have posted about models or other forum members and then took offense when people called you out on them and said they were offended. That's really rich!! I could care less whether or not you are offended by my use of the word nelly. It is a word to describe someone who has some mannerisms and/or affectations usually ascribed to the female of the species. Hell, I have some straight friends who are nelly. So get over yourself!

 

[deeteedub]

I wish people would stop calling some of the guys Nelly, I find it rather offensive to say the least. Gay people get enough name calling from the straights, let alone from our own side.

What's so offensive about being called 'Nelly'? That's the name of one of the top selling rappers in the music business today!

Oh wait, I think you mean "nellie" ... never mind.

 

[stowe1]

Jon, sometimes I think that you and I were separated at birth. You always say what I think before I can say it. Just because one isn't attracted to effeminate men does not mean that there is something wrong with them. Those of us who have taken jabs from the "other side" should know better than to fling insults at someone just because we are not physically attracted to them. That said, this scene was an easy 5. Pardon the crudity of my thoughts here, but Romeo and that cute nasal twitch of his make me want to pop in my shorts.

Nelly does not connote that there is something wrong with them. It just describes men who have mannerisms and/or affectations usually ascribed to the female of the species. I have some straight friends who are nelly. If you take it to mean that something is wrong with them, that's your problem. I wasn't insulting anyone. I was simply stating that to me they were nelly - which isn't a bad thing and if you think that it is, again your problem!

 

[stowe1]

Yes christoper, we do have similar thoughts. Stowie isn't the first forum to call effeminate guys Nelly's, some of the other older members have done so too in the past. Today's comment was just one too much so I blew up.

There's enough hate in this world already. just take a look at what is happening in Moscow.

I realize that there might be different rules between British English and American English. But I never used nelly as a noun which you are. I used it as a descriptive adjective. See my earlier response.

 

[stowe1]

Dear Jon,

Thank you for pointing this out!!! I agree with you completely on this topic!

I always feel offended every time I hear the term "nelly" being applied by a specific gay person in a "pejorative" way. I view it as the Gay equivalent to the racist expressions using the "N-word". Its use seems intended by design to put others down by implying the one speaking with is so much more morally superior than the object of the communication. Lets face it, can you ever imagine this term "nelly" ever being used to make someone else feel complemented? Of course not!

I can't see why this would have to be so difficult to avoid monitoring one's speech by just being a little more careful? We aren't always so lucky to be as "butch" as others might prefer. That is no one's fault necessarily and I strongly believe it should not be frowned down upon by others. We are not totally in charge of how one is perceived by their peers anyway! Even with the best of intentions, some of use may from time to time be perceived in a unfavorable manner, beyond our own control or intent.


Sincerely,



Stimpy

I wasn't using it in a perjorative sense; rather as a descriptive adjective meaning men who have some mannerisms and/or affectations usually attributed to the female of the species. I have some straight friends who are nelly; and my gay friends who are nelly are proudly so. If I wanted to be perjorative, I would have used entirely different adjectives and some nouns to boot.


And by the way, in the general gay community as well as GLAAD, any gay publications I read, gay websites, blogs, etc. the gay equivalent for the "N-word" is faggot, or perhaps I should have written "F-word"!

 

[stowe1]

You people need to take a chill pill. I will continue to us nelly as a descriptive adjective if, as, and when the circumstances seem appropriate for me to do so. You, by now, know the parameters of my usage. If you take offense at it, then that's on you.

 

[joninliverton]

Sorry but don't try and weave your way out of this by using English grammar to justify your actions. Then finally you say you don't give a toss what those that are concerned and will carry on using that word regardless. I think you are the Nelly and not the models.

 

[mikeyank]

Sorry but don't try and weave your way out of this by using English grammar to justify your actions. Then finally you say you don't give a toss what those that are concerned and will carry on using that word regardless. I think you are the Nelly and not the models.

Jon, why not just drop this silly argument? Stowe has told us he is in his early 70's and is from Pittsburgh. You are in your mid 20's and live in England. Let's just accept that different words and terms may have meanings and connotations in different parts of the world and periods in time.

Stowe is a proud gay man who would never intentionally say anything insulting or demeaning to a fellow gay man. We have lost too many good forumites in recent times, sometimes through misunderstandings on the forum, so can we all please chill, (at least for the sake of the forum family)?

 

[PaulsAssLips]

That was one hot fuck session!! Never would have pictured these two together but damn they did it right!! Just wish they didn't have Johnny try to give a BJ again that was painful to watch. other than that they were a work of art together definitely a 5 star favorite! And you gotta love the fact that Jonny creamed so hard he even got a big wad of his cream right in his own mouth!!

 

[Blue011]

I Am With Jon On This "Nellie" thing

I think Jon is correct to say what he did. It was offensive and I will leave it at that.

We all make mistakes; but, no reason one could not say, "if I gave offense; I did not mean to."

I shall now retire back into my lurker (that is "paid lurker" to you Mike) status and retire to the conservatory.

 

[stowe1]

Sorry but don't try and weave your way out of this by using English grammar to justify your actions. Then finally you say you don't give a toss what those that are concerned and will carry on using that word regardless. I think you are the Nelly and not the models.

I'm not trying to weave my way out of anything, because there is nothing out of which I have to weave my way. Just pointing out that you, even in this post, are using Nelly as a noun as in "...you are the Nelly..." I used it as a descriptive adjective. I did not say a person is a Nelly, but that he is nelly. I know you are an engineer, but you must have been taught at least the rudiments of basic English grammar, i.e. the difference between nouns and adjectives and their respective uses.

 

[stowe1]

I think Jon is correct to say what he did. It was offensive and I will leave it at that.

We all make mistakes; but, no reason one could not say, "if I gave offense; I did not mean to."

I shall now retire back into my lurker (that is "paid lurker" to you Mike) status and retire to the conservatory.

The word nelly is not in and of itself offensive. And it was not used in an offensive way, but as a descriptive adjective referring to mannerisms and/or affectations in some men (gay and straight) which are usually ascribed to the female of the species. I have some straight friends who are nelly. If people take offense at the use of that word, then the offense might very well derive from their own views of that word and/or perhaps how they might have used or use it, and nothing in the word itself. My usage of it was not a mistake.

 

[tampa24]

I really liked this vid. It really shows that after a few rather ho-hum videos that Johnny still has the potential to be hot. Johnny has rarely looked better than here in this scene. I love Romeo's blue undies. I also approve of Johnny wearing his hair longer and wearing some sexy briefs instead of baggy boxers. lol

I actually thought Johnny did a better job of sucking dick here than in the past. It does help though if you zoom the camera out a bit while he's doing it. haha His technique looks better from a distance than close-up. lol Even the close-ups though were kinda hot watching Johnny smooch and lick Romeo's dick. I think Romeo was having a good time. I know I was. The kissing was also pretty hot.