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Come check me out tonight at midnight for a little "Happy Birthday Paul" celebration on the webcam. That's 12am EST on the "Live Shows" section here on Broke Straight Boys SEE YOU TONIGHT!
Milla79
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I'll definitely try to make it despite the timezones' differences!
joninliverton
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LOL you're never on long enough.
Beth
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I signed up whereby Flirt4Free sends me an email when he's on. What can I say, I'm a simple girl who likes to be "entertained" by a wagging tongue!
joninliverton
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Not all people pay money Frontier. That is why the site is called Flirt 4 Free - you get to chat to the models in the free zone until someone pays up and takes them into private.
Milla79
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And most models take the time to chat with everyone so that's a great thing to interact directly with the models.
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Jon,
This is an aside, but, your post is funny and cool, from my perspective, because. . . I'm an M.A. in political philosophy, and used to work at a university. There was an engineer on our team, and we did this interesting "Myers-Briggs" testing series, and team-building exercise, with a clinical psychologist at the U. . . .
One of the guys on our team was an engineer, and a confirmed ESTP (my polar opposite: I am an INFJ): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator So, he and I were perpetually at odds, about all sorts of things, but - once we had been through this exercise, it helped us a lot: especially when we discovered that we were not gathering information the same way, perceiving it the same way, processing it the same way, feeling it the same way, or making decisions in the same way.
Believe it or not, that little exercise helped S. (that was his initial) and I not only to work together, but to become decent FRIENDS. Of course I could never MARRY someone of his temperament; or he, mine - but, it really does help to know a little about people's background, and where they are coming from. Because. . . .
Sometimes you do happen to meet someone whom you intuitively like and respect, but just have trouble connecting with, for a variety of reasons. Because, you just look at and think about and feel the world too differently. I wonder sometimes, if this is the case, with you, and me? (I know that, sometimes, your posts have just left me roiling wroth, and incredibly frustrated - and I am SURE, vice versa: but, at OTHER times, I've said to myself, "Quite objectively, Jon is talking very good sense, on this point!" And I have always wondered why we could differ so extremely at some times, and be in perfect agreement, at others!)
So, Jon, while I am sure that we will always disagree, as much as we ever agree - I kind of appreciate your having shared, in this post, that you are an engineer. (You might have disclosed this before, but I don't read all the posts on the board, by any means.) Most engineers I know approach the world very differently than I do - and this is by no means a criticism, I am sure you guys are all a LOT smarter than I am, in many, many ways - but it is a big help knowing this, in fostering friendly relations - LOL!
"A" ;-)
P.S. Sorry for the digression.
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Hey, Mr. Paul Canon ~
Just like I mentioned to Lucas: my time is kind of limited (Hey, whose isn't, though?) and my cash even more so - because I am kind of helping my super-sweet b/f along in life.
However, one of my closest friends used to be (back in the day) one of the top-rated F4F models, ever. And he LOVED me to come hang out with him on that chat, just so we could entertain each other; so I could subtly fend off the weirdos; and so he'd have something to entertain him while he was waiting for someone to "go private". (I used to set my alarm to get up at 4 a.m. for his worst F4F shifts, just so he'd know he had a FRIEND there.)
And, to all you Paul Canon fans - I know that Paul is pretty resilient and hardy - BUT (from my personal experience): if you are working a long shift at F4F, it means a LOT to have great friends who appreciate you, to chat with, while you are working, there. So, I think, anyone who shows up to be a friend to Paul, and show him some support, it will be really SUPER, for Paul. (It ain't always easy, being a "Broke Straight Boys!") Not to mention, even if you aren't able to or up for buying a chat - great and fun conversation in the chatroom encourages the shy lurkers to meet and get to know Paul, and maybe ultimately buy a show, and help him out in HIS life. So please don't be shy about supporting OUR PAUL!
Hugs,
"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO
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Mr. Paul Canon: you are cute and sweet and funny - and I like you a lot! (What a big SECRET that is - but it never hurts to say ;-)
"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO
Mr. Paul Canon: you are cute and sweet and funny - and I like you a lot! (What a big SECRET that is - but it never hurts to say ;-)
"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO
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Hi Ambi.
Don't be sorry for digressing: Jeez if we all apologised for that then I would be doing it 150 times a week or maybe 160. Yes we disagree on certain things, but don't worry I disagree with most of my friends on here - and why ? It's because it makes the forum interesting and fires up debate.
Why agree with someone just for the sake of it. If you have something to say or even slightly disagree with someone's point then say so, rather than biting the bullet, so to speak. Engineers are only smarter on their own subject, and being a junior engineer I'm not all that smart at that either lol, it's just that my job has many challenges and I love challenges. So that is why I challenge posts on here, but not for the sake of it, but to find out what exactly people are thinking.
When I was in school, there was a guy in our class who didn't contribute much to any subject and if he did it was quite irrelevant. However, once in a while he would come out with a pearler (that is a classic) statement - to which we would all stand back in amazement. That has always made me think never to ignore someone no matter what.
Hope all the above makes sense.
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Sure, Jon -
All you have said makes sense! And my point in the last note to you, was simply that, it is nice to get to know you (and where you are coming from) a little bit better.
Because (while it is obvious from afar, but not always so easily discerned UP-CLOSE): people (who may well be equally brilliant intellectually, and equally kind and caring, in their own ways) have very different ways of looking at the world, processing information, and SHARING that information, with others.
And it is especially difficult on message-boards on the Internet, because this is a SUPER-COLD medium. You get to READ the words, but you DON'T get to SEE facial expressions; HEAR sighs or laughter; or FEEL what the other person is FEELING. That's what makes friendship for people on message-boards tough ~ especially for people with different tastes, writing styles, and personality-types. (I think.)
Hey, I work with engineers every day: as a writer who has to translate their thoughts into language the public will understand. I have come to LOVE a lot of these guys, as friends! But I will tell you, Jon, it is always a bit of a challenge, at the start. (I have found that I usually fall into friendships with doctors, lawyers, teachers, and social workers effortlessly - but with engineers, it has always been a bit tougher.)
Because - most of the engineers I know have a disposition that is very different from mine. Hey, if they didn't, they'd totally SUCK (and not in a good, gay, way) AS ENGINEERS. Most of the engineers I work with have VERY keen eyes, and VERY keen minds, and are very much disposed to call a spade, a spade. (Indeed, they get paid to do so - and would be USELESS, if they didn't!) They look for the physical integrity in things - sussing out the things that work, and the things that DON'T. (That's the reason our BRIDGES don't fall down in Canada. . . except in Montreal ;-)
And, for whatever reason, most of the engineers I know have a very straightforward, objective, take, on what they SEE, right before their eyes. They are not afraid to piss off the BIG BOSSES if they see something they don't like - they just say so. It is the fellowship of the IRON RING. (I dunno if you have that custom in the U.K., but here, when any engineer graduates from Uni, he gets - and forever wears - an iron ring.) They are USED to fighting with big corporate bosses, in the harshest ways, because it is their DUTY to look at the project, do the math, and call it as they see it. And, God bless them FOR it - because otherwise (see, supra) all the f***ing BRIDGES would fall down.
For my part, Jon - I am the one person on earth LEAST-suited to be friends with, or even UNDERSTAND, an engineer. I am not, surely, out of false modesty, deprecating my intellectual capacities, or those of people who are like me. Not at all. (I have a drawerful of gold medals from Uni, attesting that I know what I'm about; and the best compliment I ever got was from a prof who told me, "A. - I never UNDERSTOOD HEGEL, till you explained his writing to me, on your last exam.) The point being, I guess, that we all have different gifts, and ways of approaching reality, and the world we live in.
MY LIFE is not the brilliant exposition of the sun and stars and cosmos - or the grandeur of the earth, in all its glory - or the miracle of physics, in all its mathematical perfection. I dwell in the subtle shadows of the human heart and mind ~ such as are disclosed to us, by music, and poetry. This is my human predilection; and this is my fate. And unlike yours: MY work HAS NO ECONOMIC VALUE - it is completely intangible, ethereal, and fleeting as a glimpse of the Will-'o-the Wisp. . . .
So, Jon, I hope you understand (after this lengthy exposition) that: while we are surely not ideally matched, as friends (our experiences, ideas, and ways of treating them are so different): I do like you. I sometimes find your dedication to objectivity harsh, and unpalatable; and I am sure you often find my surrender to soft SUBJECTIVITY craven, and rather silly. We are VERY different people, and DEFINITELY, should never marry ;-)))
But, beyond all of that, I DO find (if I may confess, to this) in the HEART of Jon from Liverton, the HEART of a man whom I like, and admire, very much - however much he sometimes frustrates me, and however much I (to my eternal discredit) often misunderstand him.
In fine, dear Jon, I DO like you, and I like your posts. Mind you, I will never UNDERSTAND YOU, BUT - that isn't necessary to be friends, or at least to enjoy a pleasant, and cordial, detente ;-)))
Yours faithfully,
"A" ;-)))))
P.S. Sorry to PAUL, for hijacking your lovely thread, yet again ;-))))
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joninliverton
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Ha Ambi - that would look good on my epitaph - imagine the cost though. Sorry Paul.
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