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[slimvintage]

Dave, I just had to chime in if you don't mind. Perhaps I'm in the minority in my thinking, but, from a business standpoint I was wondering: Is the tail wagging the dog, or is the dog wagging the tail here? If you're hiring someone to do a job, and perhaps there are parts of it they don't like, they have the option of hiring on and getting the job done, or going somewhere else to work. Now correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm saying this in a felicific calculus manner, but don't you have a line out the door of willing participants that will throw a liplock on another dude for the price you're willing to pay for a fuck?

The act of comraderie among men (or boys) is fairly innocuous. From a pat on the ass, or shoulder, to a stylized ganglike handshake or forehead nuzzle. A peck on the cheek or lips, a look, breathing heavy, or a very awaited long kiss goodnight.


Well then what is love? "Love is like a lizard, that wraps its tail around your heart and nibbles at your gizzard"....

Dave, you're and experienced grown man, and if the truth were really known, plenty wise in the ways of the wiley coyote. And....if you believe this adolescent B.S. about the kissing being too intimate for them to do, I've got some flooded farmland here in Washington I'd like to sell you.

Remember, these musings are strictly from a business perspective, and how I would act as a business man. Vacillation and quibbling does not always make for a successful business model.

Suck me, fuck me, but don't kiss me....it's too intimate....Bah Humbug!

There's a problem here. The bargaining, raising the stakes, the pretense that the Straighties are being led into further and further intimacy through bribery, their grudging acquiescence and fumbling first interaction served as an effective storyboard for the episodes when I first joined. And any new members will still be gettin' off on that traditional script. Us guys who want more spontaneous signs of brotherhood and affection, or lust, have moved on from there. If Dave and Co. are smart enough to marry the two concepts (and the ideas expressed here are really excellent) then 2009 is gonna be a banner year for Blu. With property prices predicted to plummet still further they would probably even be able to buy the flooded farmland.

 

[parisnoyd]

My friend that I had sex with for all those years wanted to kiss. I just couldn't do it. To me the sex was casual and I did think kissing was too intimate, even though I did love the guy. I always had girlfriends during that time. Kissing him would have also made me feel like I was cheating on my girl. Getting a blow job from him didn't feel like cheating. Go figure.....................

That said, I am a member of another site. With respect to Dave, I won't name it, but those guys kiss like you wouldn't believe. Hotter than hell! They are mostly straight guys, too. I'm sure it's in their contract. Like others have said, tell them what they are expected to do, or there is the door. They are doing porn. Kiss already.

 

[tampa24]

This is how many of the models explain it to me....for Dustin to kiss the few times he did...I really convince him. I know Dustin was popular and everyone loved him...but lets face it...all he did was want to get his dick sucked and fuck the other guy, collect his $$$ and party. He didn't want to do anything else...he didn't want to get fucked...he didn't even want to suck the other guys dick...and as the months of filming him continued he got more demanding in not doing what I told him to do...it was like pulling teeth. So I basically told him that if all he wants to do is get his dick sucked and fuck the other guy...then I need him to at least kiss or do something special. After trying many times..he kissed. This is the main reason we don't have him as a model because how many scenes and how much money can I pay Dustin to just fuck...it gets boring after a while and we rather hire a model that is willing to do more. Since Dustin wasn't willing to do more...will not film him because we want our members to see hotter footage. This reply also ties into the thread of boring and seeing the same things...again, be patient (no pun intended)...we have lots of new hot guys and action coming up in future episode and we are doing our best to upload as fast as possible.

-David

Hey David,

Now you're talking like a savvy business man. You should not have to put up with any diva-like behavior from your models. Even if they are popular. Just like in the world of fashion modeling there is always someone else waiting in the wings.

There is always someone else younger, older, hotter, more maturelooking, slimmer, beefier, more innocent looking, etc. Take your pick. There is always someone who will have a bigger dick or have that certain screen presence who will be willing to go farther in the shoots. All of your models need to know that while you appreciate them and their fans may also, that they are expendible. You're not obligated to spend a fortune on people who make intransigent demands on what they are willing to do for your money. Fresh faces and new personalities make the site interesting.

Cheers!

 

[slimvintage]

Hey David,

Now you're talking like a savvy business man. You should not have to put up with any diva-like behavior from your models. Even if they are popular. Just like in the world of fashion modeling there is always someone else waiting in the wings.

There is always someone else younger, older, hotter, more maturelooking, slimmer, beefier, more innocent looking, etc. Take your pick. There is always someone who will have a bigger dick or have that certain screen presence who will be willing to go farther in the shoots. All of your models need to know that while you appreciate them and their fans may also, that they are expendible. You're not obligated to spend a fortune on people who make intransigent demands on what they are willing to do for your money. Fresh faces and new personalities make the site interesting.

Cheers!

Yeah, er, well, yeah, up to a, uh, point of course, you're right. But give Tyler, Nelson, Mike and Ace anything they ask for. Grovel if necessary

 

[tampa24]

Yeah, er, well, yeah, up to a, uh, point of course, you're right. But give Tyler, Nelson, Mike and Ace anything they ask for. Grovel if necessary

And CJ,Danny and Diesal. For a few more months at least. LOL

 

[dande01]

LOL...There are exceptions....LOL

 

[tucsonjayce]

Kissing is good.......

But the producer is God. David, I love what your doing and I trust that you are going to meet my needs sooner or later. Part of the addiction to this site is an escalation of expectations. While it's a pain in the ass (so to speak) for you, it also speaks well of you, Mark and the Blu team.

I too like Aiden and Jaime, it's one of the scenes I go back to often and that nuzzle is one of the reasons.....

While it's great to say, I'm paying so you'll do as I say, that really does get in the way of relationship building and respecting the model. I happen to like the fact that David builds a relationship with these guys. If I just wanted random fucking I could just watch some of the leased feeds. And the really hot scenes on those are few and far between. Same format, same positions and little else. Yes they kiss but it can't save the episode.

Keep up the great work David and we'll chime in. You won't be able to satisfy all of us all of the time, but I for one can live with that.

Yours,

Jayce

 

[slimvintage]

LOL...There are exceptions....LOL

Wat a relief!!!!!

 

[tampa24]

But the producer is God. David, I love what your doing and I trust that you are going to meet my needs sooner or later. Part of the addiction to this site is an escalation of expectations. While it's a pain in the ass (so to speak) for you, it also speaks well of you, Mark and the Blu team.

I too like Aiden and Jaime, it's one of the scenes I go back to often and that nuzzle is one of the reasons.....

While it's great to say, I'm paying so you'll do as I say, that really does get in the way of relationship building and respecting the model. I happen to like the fact that David builds a relationship with these guys. If I just wanted random fucking I could just watch some of the leased feeds. And the really hot scenes on those are few and far between. Same format, same positions and little else. Yes they kiss but it can't save the episode.

Keep up the great work David and we'll chime in. You won't be able to satisfy all of us all of the time, but I for one can live with that.

Yours,

Jayce

I too appreciate the fact that David treats the models with respect. I would never want to see it done otherwise. For the models who are truly straight it is a great effort on their parts to do the things asked of them. None of us should take that for granted.

What I was saying though was that if you have a model who is getting too cocky and demanding then it may be time to end the business relationship. It's not like they are under contract. If there is a model who has done several videos performing only the same routines then it's fair of David to ask them to take things farther. The model has a choice of saying yes or no. If the model refuses but still wants more work anyway then David has the right to say no.

Without being cold and callous and "fire" them David can tell them that he no longer has any work to offer them. He can always tell them that if they are willing to do X in a future scene that he would be willing to pay them X amount of dollars. He can tell them to call him if they decide to take him up on the offer. In this economy I would not be surprised if some models he never thought would agree to certain things would suddenly call him up.

But all of us should treat each other with respect and dignity. Golden Rule, right?

 

[dande01]

I too appreciate the fact that David treats the models with respect. I would never want to see it done otherwise. For the models who are truly straight it is a great effort on their parts to do the things asked of them. None of us should take that for granted.

What I was saying though was that if you have a model who is getting too cocky and demanding then it may be time to end the business relationship. It's not like they are under contract. If there is a model who has done several videos performing only the same routines then it's fair of David to ask them to take things farther. The model has a choice of saying yes or no. If the model refuses but still wants more work anyway then David has the right to say no.

Without being cold and callous and "fire" them David can tell them that he no longer has any work to offer them. He can always tell them that if they are willing to do X in a future scene that he would be willing to pay them X amount of dollars. He can tell them to call him if they decide to take him up on the offer. In this economy I would not be surprised if some models he never thought would agree to certain things would suddenly call him up.

But all of us should treat each other with respect and dignity. Golden Rule, right?

Very Well Said....and that is what happens in most cases. Only a few will stay and agree, while others will just move on. I think the ones that agree become more bisexual and are willing to explore there own sexuality. While others will only do certain sexual things on or off the camera. If a model is not willing to explore and keep an open sexual mind, then what is the point of keeping that model and paying that model to do the same thing over & over again?

 

[Jayman01]

Very Well Said....and that is what happens in most cases. Only a few will stay and agree, while others will just move on. I think the ones that agree become more bisexual and are willing to explore there own sexuality. While others will only do certain sexual things on or off the camera. If a model is not willing to explore and keep an open sexual mind, then what is the point of keeping that model and paying that model to do the same thing over & over again?

That makes sense to me... Thanks, again David. Tampa, I totally a gree with you...

 

[tampa24]

I wanted to put out there also that I'm very glad that David has changed his tack with the models and said up front that they are a gay owned, gay operated business. It did bother me when he would tell them that he would get a girl for them the next time. I especially hated it when he would tell them that the video would never be seen by anyone but him.

I understand that when you have a startup business you don't have a ton of money to throw around, you want the businesss to succeed, etc. and you are kind of feeling your way along at the beginning. No pun intended. Nevertheless I couldn't help feeling bad for some of the earlier models. Some wanted to believe that nobody would ever seee these particular videos. The truly straight models I'm sure would have either not done some of the scenes or would have asked for more money.

The Home Depot guys' video for instance is one of my favorites but I worry for the models. They had their names (aliases or not) and workplace advertised on the site. The publicity might have turned their lives upside down.

So please David for our conscience as well as yours, stick with the honesty. It makes you feel better. It makes us feel better. It's good business and good karma.