Johnny and Liam

[Rick2206]

Hmmmm .... I must have missed something about this whole notion of these websites - I sign on to them as something to f ill a void in my life. As of the moment my world is lacking for some of the things these sites portray, and they are a substitute,a lbeit lame at times. For instance when I see a Paul Canon, a beautiful, very good looking, sexy, young man scheduled to have sex online with another man of the same ilk, I anticipate something that will "give me pleasure" and fulfill my desires, even if only for an evening. But, when someone like Paul, tells me that he is so glad that he was able to "pleasure me" that means something to me. Now maybe "Paul"may be straight as a board, married and the father of three (which he is NOT), but for the moment and for me he is the ultimate gay fantasy, romancing and pleasuring his lover. That's enough for me, and that "Paul" is real for me. Very Real! And as he makes life pleasureable for me, hopefully I make a difference for him, by my letting him know he is doing his job - well! I know of one instance in my own life, where I told a model (not here) how much he meant to me - and in fact that same person's life was changed - because he thought all of us on this side iof the camera were weirdos - we formed a friendship two years ago - and to this day still are friends - his life was changed, too because someone actually took the time to tell him he cared and was important - he turned his life around and respects himself more. He still does his job with even more i ntensity, knowing full well he's filling a need for someone somewhere!

 

[mikeyank]

Hmmmm .... I must have missed something about this whole notion of these websites - I sign on to them as something to f ill a void in my life. As of the moment my world is lacking for some of the things these sites portray, and they are a substitute,a lbeit lame at times. For instance when I see a Paul Canon, a beautiful, very good looking, sexy, young man scheduled to have sex online with another man of the same ilk, I anticipate something that will "give me pleasure" and fulfill my desires, even if only for an evening. But, when someone like Paul, tells me that he is so glad that he was able to "pleasure me" that means something to me. Now maybe "Paul"may be straight as a board, married and the father of three (which he is NOT), but for the moment and for me he is the ultimate gay fantasy, romancing and pleasuring his lover. That's enough for me, and that "Paul" is real for me. Very Real! And as he makes life pleasureable for me, hopefully I make a difference for him, by my letting him know he is doing his job - well! I know of one instance in my own life, where I told a model (not here) how much he meant to me - and in fact that same person's life was changed - because he thought all of us on this side iof the camera were weirdos - we formed a friendship two years ago - and to this day still are friends - his life was changed, too because someone actually took the time to tell him he cared and was important - he turned his life around and respects himself more. He still does his job with even more i ntensity, knowing full well he's filling a need for someone somewhere!

Dear Rick,

You missed nothing at all about the notion of these websites, for as you described your fantasies with the beautiful models who appear here, and of your concept of the pleasure you receive from watching your kind of models performing in your kind of scenes. You are absolutely 100% correct that this is exactly what you look for on Broke Straight Boys

And while I am looking for totally different attributes in my favorite models, (although Paul Canon is way up high on my list too), I am correct as well, for me. We all come here with our own agendas, for our own reasons, and with a variety of scenes and models, hopefully many of us can be satisfied at least some of the time.

I am also very pleased to read how you were able to make a difference in a young man's life through your caring. I feel confident that through the model's posting on this forum, that some of our boys have been touched and possibly helped by reading of our affection and caring for them too.

 

[juanjo]

I think part of the problem here with the rather lackluster performance of the models is the overwhelming premise to this site that somehow straight sex is superior to gay sex and as long as they get naked and bang into each other everyone should applaud. I generally like this site because I like the usual type of models that appear here but lately even that is a dicey proposition. Why in 2013 do we still allow people to think that gay sex is somehow inferior and allow models on a paid porn site to perform as if they are reading a newspaper. It is beginning to bore the crap out of me.

I don't really get your point. The premise of the website is straight boys having gay sex for cash. Now if it were gay boys having straight sex for cash I imagine the enthusiasm level of many of the model would be about the same. It certainly would have been for me at their age and would be today. So I do not see any value judgment being made concerning the relative merits of straight sex as opposed to gay sex in an overall sense. But in the sense of a straight boy having gay sex I can see that for many the level of enthusiasm would not be the same as if they were fucking their girlfriend or a really hot babe.

 

[mikeyank]

I don't really get your point. The premise of the website is straight boys having gay sex for cash. Now if it were gay boys having straight sex for cash I imagine the enthusiasm level of many of the model would be about the same. It certainly would have been for me at their age and would be today. So I do not see any value judgment being made concerning the relative merits of straight sex as opposed to gay sex in an overall sense. But in the sense of a straight boy having gay sex I can see that for many the level of enthusiasm would not be the same as if they were fucking their girlfriend or a really hot babe.

To my way of thinking, Juanjo speaks the truth, as usual.

 

[keylow365]

Originally Posted by KellyG
I think part of the problem here with the rather lackluster performance of the models is the overwhelming premise to this site that somehow straight sex is superior to gay sex and as long as they get naked and bang into each other everyone should applaud. I generally like this site because I like the usual type of models that appear here but lately even that is a dicey proposition. Why in 2013 do we still allow people to think that gay sex is somehow inferior and allow models on a paid porn site to perform as if they are reading a newspaper. It is beginning to bore the crap out of me.

Originally Posted by juanjo
I don't really get your point. The premise of the website is straight boys having gay sex for cash. Now if it were gay boys having straight sex for cash I imagine the enthusiasm level of many of the model would be about the same. It certainly would have been for me at their age and would be today. So I do not see any value judgment being made concerning the relative merits of straight sex as opposed to gay sex in an overall sense. But in the sense of a straight boy having gay sex I can see that for many the level of enthusiasm would not be the same as if they were fucking their girlfriend or a really hot babe.

I see both points but will have to side with Kelly because a true gay guy would not be a woman the same as a true straight guy would not be with a guy ie Cliff. I like the illusion of Broke Straight Boys but the truth is these guys are not completely straight cause no amount of money could convince them to do gay porn.

 

[joninliverton]

Originally Posted by KellyG
I think part of the problem here with the rather lackluster performance of the models is the overwhelming premise to this site that somehow straight sex is superior to gay sex and as long as they get naked and bang into each other everyone should applaud. I generally like this site because I like the usual type of models that appear here but lately even that is a dicey proposition. Why in 2013 do we still allow people to think that gay sex is somehow inferior and allow models on a paid porn site to perform as if they are reading a newspaper. It is beginning to bore the crap out of me.

Originally Posted by juanjo
I don't really get your point. The premise of the website is straight boys having gay sex for cash. Now if it were gay boys having straight sex for cash I imagine the enthusiasm level of many of the model would be about the same. It certainly would have been for me at their age and would be today. So I do not see any value judgment being made concerning the relative merits of straight sex as opposed to gay sex in an overall sense. But in the sense of a straight boy having gay sex I can see that for many the level of enthusiasm would not be the same as if they were fucking their girlfriend or a really hot babe.

I see both points but will have to side with Kelly because a true gay guy would not be a woman the same as a true straight guy would not be with a guy ie Cliff. I like the illusion of Broke Straight Boys but the truth is these guys are not completely straight cause no amount of money could convince them to do gay porn.

KellyG mentioned this particular scene only and not the site overall, which a few of you have decided to chime in about. And what I said earlier still rings true - If models like Jason and Max Flint can give a convincing performance in front of the camera, then we are right to be disappointed when others cannot match up.

 

[Ambivalent]

I enjoyed the pre-sex banter. I like to get to know the models, and the discussion of their favorite musical acts was interesting to me. Perhaps some might have been offended by Johnny referring to his cock as "Jesus", but I like seeing the guys just being themselves, as guys their age act in "real life".

I am not a huge fan of either model sexually, but I do enjoy Johnny more when he smiles and shows his personality as he did in this scene. Liam seemed to enjoy getting fucked enough to maintain his hardon and shoot a nice load.

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Hey, Mike - interesting post!

1.) I'm a Christian, of a liberal but serious nature - but I thought Johnny referring to - err - 'Johnny', as "Jesus" was kind of cute, funny, and sexy. From a basic human point of view, we're all physical creatures, and, let's face it: that special part of oneself that affords constant pleasure and happiness is BOUND to inspire a little reverence ;-)

Not to mention, I've read in many places (and heard and experienced, to some degree) that most Anglo-Saxon 'profanities' relate to sex; most German ones to excretion; and most French ones to religion! ("Tabernacle!" LOL!!!) So, Johnny inadvertently reminded me of some of the cute French guys I've known, over the years ;-)

Not to mention, the bedroom isn't church! It's a place where we explore physical love and pleasure, and this often involves pushing boundaries, and transgressing ordinary limits, in moments of excitation or (especially) the heat of passion. So, I think that's fine

2.) Johnny is not my usual type, either - i.e., not the type of guy I'd usually be hoping to date - he's just a little bigger and more muscular than my usual "type". (Though I will say that, whatever Johnny's physical regime is, I think it's a good one: because, unlike a lot of guys who work out intensively, I think his muscular development looks natural, good, and even elegant as a complement to his frame and face.)

What has really made me warm up to Johnny over the past year or so, Mike, is precisely getting glimpses of his incredibly warm, sweet, and endearing personality ~ and glimpses of that dazzling SMILE, as well! (Johnny has one of the sweetest smiles, ever, I think!) While he is many guys' (and I am sure, girls') idea of Olympian perfection, he wears his sculpted beauty very lightly - and seems, in all ways, so down-to-earth, modest, and CHARMING.

So I have come to totally enjoy his performances, both in scheduled videos, and in BTS clips.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO

Rufus Wainwright - "Instant Pleasure" ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_BFXvqBjvg

 

[mikeyank]

I enjoyed the pre-sex banter. I like to get to know the models, and the discussion of their favorite musical acts was interesting to me. Perhaps some might have been offended by Johnny referring to his cock as "Jesus", but I like seeing the guys just being themselves, as guys their age act in "real life".

I am not a huge fan of either model sexually, but I do enjoy Johnny more when he smiles and shows his personality as he did in this scene. Liam seemed to enjoy getting fucked enough to maintain his hardon and shoot a nice load.

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Hey, Mike - interesting post!

1.) I'm a Christian, of a liberal but serious nature - but I thought Johnny referring to - err - 'Johnny', as "Jesus" was kind of cute, funny, and sexy. From a basic human point of view, we're all physical creatures, and, let's face it: that special part of oneself that affords constant pleasure and happiness is BOUND to inspire a little reverence ;-)

Not to mention, I've read in many places (and heard and experienced, to some degree) that most Anglo-Saxon 'profanities' relate to sex; most German ones to excretion; and most French ones to religion! ("Tabernacle!" LOL!!!) So, Johnny inadvertently reminded me of some of the cute French guys I've known, over the years ;-)

Not to mention, the bedroom isn't church! It's a place where we explore physical love and pleasure, and this often involves pushing boundaries, and transgressing ordinary limits, in moments of excitation or (especially) the heat of passion. So, I think that's fine

2.) Johnny is not my usual type, either - i.e., not the type of guy I'd usually be hoping to date - he's just a little bigger and more muscular than my usual "type". (Though I will say that, whatever Johnny's physical regime is, I think it's a good one: because, unlike a lot of guys who work out intensively, I think his muscular development looks natural, good, and even elegant as a complement to his frame and face.)

What has really made me warm up to Johnny over the past year or so, Mike, is precisely getting glimpses of his incredibly warm, sweet, and endearing personality ~ and glimpses of that dazzling SMILE, as well! (Johnny has one of the sweetest smiles, ever, I think!) While he is many guys' (and I am sure, girls') idea of Olympian perfection, he wears his sculpted beauty very lightly - and seems, in all ways, so down-to-earth, modest, and CHARMING.

So I have come to totally enjoy his performances, both in scheduled videos, and in BTS clips.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO

Rufus Wainwright - "Instant Pleasure" ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_BFXvqBjvg

I'm pleased that you got my point completely Ambi, and that we agree that nothing really bad was said as we got a glimpse into he way guys like Johnny and Liam relate to one another. And we sure agree that Johnny's dazzling smile is totally disarming, and he comes across a very sweet kid!

 

[mikeyank]

KellyG mentioned this particular scene only and not the site overall, which a few of you have decided to chime in about. And what I said earlier still rings true - If models like Jason and Max Flint can give a convincing performance in front of the camera, then we are right to be disappointed when others cannot match up.

As highly rated and as popular as Jason & Max's scenes have been, I wonder what would happen to this site if 100% of the scenes here involved models as passionately into gay sex as these two fine performers are.

I believe that Mark and Clay understand that all of the audience here is not looking for the exact same thing, and that variety, (within the basic parameters of the site's mission statement) is indeed the spice of life, and the heart beat of a successful porn site.

 

[Ambivalent]

Hmmmm .... I must have missed something about this whole notion of these websites - I sign on to them as something to f ill a void in my life. As of the moment my world is lacking for some of the things these sites portray, and they are a substitute,a lbeit lame at times. For instance when I see a Paul Canon, a beautiful, very good looking, sexy, young man scheduled to have sex online with another man of the same ilk, I anticipate something that will "give me pleasure" and fulfill my desires, even if only for an evening. But, when someone like Paul, tells me that he is so glad that he was able to "pleasure me" that means something to me. Now maybe "Paul"may be straight as a board, married and the father of three (which he is NOT), but for the moment and for me he is the ultimate gay fantasy, romancing and pleasuring his lover. That's enough for me, and that "Paul" is real for me. Very Real! And as he makes life pleasureable for me, hopefully I make a difference for him, by my letting him know he is doing his job - well! I know of one instance in my own life, where I told a model (not here) how much he meant to me - and in fact that same person's life was changed - because he thought all of us on this side iof the camera were weirdos - we formed a friendship two years ago - and to this day still are friends - his life was changed, too because someone actually took the time to tell him he cared and was important - he turned his life around and respects himself more. He still does his job with even more i ntensity, knowing full well he's filling a need for someone somewhere!

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Hey, Rick -

I think you are totally on the mark, with your comments. They very much reflect my own experience.

1.) Of course, we all need the inspiration of physical beauty and passion in our lives - even if (and especially when) we don't have someone special to share that with, in person. That was me, for many years (and may be me one day again): after my first b/f left me, I waited three decades to get another. . . and I cannot tell you how often, when I was feeling lonely or down, a Jason Matthews video perked me up, and made me think, "Hey! Life isn't so bad, after all!" (Jason pretty much kept me going, till I found my new b/f of two years' standing, the gloriously beautiful Mr. K.) And I don't think I would have MADE it, without Jason!

2.) One of the great things that is happening in the world today, I think, is that thanks to a confluence of scientific research, exposure in old-style media, and communication in the new "social media" - people today (especially young people): are much more open-minded and tolerant and genuinely caring, than used to be the case.

I was very lucky, Rick, because when I went to university I had a number of totally straight friends who were nonetheless totally sympathetic and caring toward me. (I often joke that I've had a harder time being accepted by gay people, than straight ones!) But I had a number of very cute straight friends, whom I loved and adored (one of them was the captain of the university swim-team): and they loved and adored me BACK, in a Platonic, but very generous, way. My friends didn't mind at all that I thought they were beautiful, or even if I had innocent "crushes" on some of them - they were not averse to sharing lots of affection, giving me a hug when I needed it, and saying, "Hey, A. - it's gonna be OK! I know you will find the right guy."

What we are seeing now, I think, is that there are more and more young straight guys who are totally open-minded: just like my best straight friends in uni, were. I think Jason and Paul and Adam are excellent examples of guys who have this kind and open-minded spirit: and who appreciate the love and affection they get from fans, as long as it is respectful. (Johnny too, of course!)

This is really positive, I think. I think and hope we are getting to a place in history where our sexual identities need no longer DEFINE US, to the point of precluding genuine friendships, and caring for one another. That's super.

3.) Like you, I have become personal friends with a couple of models over the years. (Though in my case, this was about a decade ago.) One was a French-Canadian guy; the other was a Russian. (The first was gay; the second was straight.) In both cases, what they were looking for was a helpful tutor in essay-writing: and that is what they got! In both cases, warm and genuine - and completely Platonic - friendships ensued. But I was glad to play a part in helping these guys succeed, at university. So I am glad for the good things you have done for your model friend, also.

And finally, Rick, yes - whether they realize it or not - the models on Broke Straight Boys are playing a HUGE role in making many people's lives better. Obviously, some of the people on the "other side of the Internet" ARE weirdos! And dangerous and bad! But many of them (like you and me and so many of our friends here, I think) are just very ordinary nice people, who may or may not have fallen on hard times romantically - and who really APPRECIATE a little romantic and erotic inspiration, from time to time - and the opportunity to say "thank you" to the models we admire, here on the board. Broke Straight Boys is great, for allowing us to share these friendly conversations.

Hugs,
"A" XOXOXOXOXO

 

[julesmangrove]

Have Sabrina and Sha been allowed near a model's hair again? Because that fro on Liam looked teased within an inch of its life...

 

[Ambivalent]

As highly rated and as popular as Jason & Max's scenes have been, I wonder what would happen to this site if 100% of the scenes here involved models as passionately into gay sex as these two fine performers are.

I believe that Mark and Clay understand that all of the audience here is not looking for the exact same thing, and that variety, (within the basic parameters of the site's mission statement) is indeed the spice of life, and the heart beat of a successful porn site.

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Hey, Mike -

I am actually getting, and FEELING what both you AND Jon have to say, on this subject.

My heart is with Jon, in this regard: I am not sure why Jon came here, but I didn't really come here for the chance to see specifically "straight boys". (Although, given the fact that about 90 to 95 per cent of the world's boys ARE straight, it stands to reason that SOME of those straight boys are going to be HOT! LOL!)

No, I came back specifically for the cute and HOT guys - and for Jason, in particular - and then just was really overwhelmed with enjoyment, when great new models like Paul and Adam and Blake started appearing, here. (I personally think that Broke Straight Boys has the best repertory company going, in erotic video, right now!) But I love male beauty - great performances - and winning, charming, personalities: whether the model is straight or gay doesn't really matter, to me.

(A good example of my feelings in this regard is SHANE, from Broke Straight Boys 1. Wow, I thought he was so cute - even while he often showed the angriest, surliest, "straight-guy" faces as he got down to business: but later (some tell us, anyway) he turned out to be gay. Doesn't matter to me - I thought, and still think - he was INCREDIBLY HOT, either way.)

But, Mike, my heart is with YOU, in this way: my gay friends know me as "the man of a thousand fetishes" - and this is true. (I bet you can guess SOME of them!) The "straight-guy" fetish is not particularly one of mine - though I will admit that is sometimes really fascinating to see a guy who is TRULY straight, and uncomfortable with gay sex, eat his pride and get it on, for the cash ;-)

And I know how powerful and compelling certain fetishes can be - how that certain scenario or situation can make ALL the difference, between a scene that is just "so-so", and one that is SIZZLING HOT. And it totally makes sense that longing for straight guys is one of the biggest, most enduring gay fetishes of all time. . . because, after all, who among us didn't have a desperate crush on a straight friend, at school or college, or work? A crush we could never act upon? Or maybe did, ONCE, and could never do it again? That kind of stuff lingers in one's mind, and heart, and balls FOREVER, I suppose.

And, Mike, I totally get that, if one's longing is to see straight guys in action - where else would you possibly come (pun sort of intended) but "Broke Straight Boys"? This IS the place for that fantasy, and I wonder if the site (though it has been great for me, lately) has been quite as great for you, and the things YOU are looking for. Like, I kind of think that maybe BSB1 was better, when it came to showcasing TRULY reluctant straight guys, kind of getting broken into gay sex much against their will - but sometimes learning to enjoy it a little. (Though not always.)

Mike, honestly, it's just for this reason that I never complain if new models make homophobic comments on their first appearances. Because, although it isn't something one would like to hear at the office or in church - this isn't the office, or church, either. It's Broke Straight Boys! And some straight boys are cool and chill - others get all hot and bothered and even angry when anyone even mentions the idea of sucking c***, to them. If you want a variety of REAL straight boys, you kinda gotta roll with the punches ;-) *I say this with the caveat that I am not a fan of bad acting - and models FAKING being straight is pretty much a turn-off for me: I suppose, for anybody.*

Anyway, Mike, I feel I have been getting so much of the content I enjoy - with Jason and Paul and Adam - (all of whom are straight, or, in Jason's case, pan-sexual: but certainly totally chill and gay-friendly): are you getting enough of the content YOU like? Because you are, after all, the site's original constituency.

It would be interesting to know your thoughts, and maybe you should even put up a poll about it - if the site should try to get some more genuinely reluctant straight boys? Not sure, but just curious.

"A" XOXOXOXO

 

[Buckeye1]

As highly rated and as popular as Jason & Max's scenes have been, I wonder what would happen to this site if 100% of the scenes here involved models as passionately into gay sex as these two fine performers are.

The site would soon loose me as a member......my heart just wouldn't be able to take it. LOL

 

[stowe1]

Well, this scene got a 3 from me, average in my grading system. I thought the pre-sex banter was babble - I thought they were all high and in many instances unintelligible; but I wasn't bothered by that aspect of it. I am a gay practicing Catholic and that is not an oxmoronic statement. Blessed with a Jesuitical education, I have been given the tools which enable me to reconcile my orientation with my faith through the process of informing my conscience and making an informed free will choice that one can be a practicing Catholic and a fully functioning gay man. And I'm not a right wing religious zealot; far from it. However I was offended by Liam's comparing anal sex to the Virgin Birth of Jesus and referring to Johnny's penis as Jesus. I would have been offended had he compared it to a sacred tenet of any faith. While it might be fun to hear people talk in their natural habitat, Broke Straight Boys isn't theirs. And all people should know how to filter their comments. And Liam clearly doesn't know how to filter his or perhaps, my initial view that they were high is correct and we all know that can removed filters from a user's brain.

As to the sex itself, it was just average. Johnny has been a favorite of mine since his arrival, always at or near the top of my favorites' list. However, as I pointed out in one of his more recent scenes, he is coasting. He sucks dick no better than when he started here - he barely goes past the head; and his fucking has become too unimagintive, especially for the personna of the character, Johnny Forza. As I stated previously, I hope he is not letting his "Broke Straight Boys Exclusive Model" go to his head and think that he just has to give ordinary performances. That type of status demands work above and beyond the ordinary.

Liam, I thought, was the better of the two performers here in this scene. And that's not saying all that much. His orals were better, and he did give a more enthusiastic performance as a bottom than Johnny did as a top.

 

[juanjo]

I see both points but will have to side with Kelly because a true gay guy would not be a woman the same as a true straight guy would not be with a guy ie Cliff. I like the illusion of Broke Straight Boys but the truth is these guys are not completely straight cause no amount of money could convince them to do gay porn.

That's called the "no true scottsman" logical fallacy. In the course of my legal career I have represented young men who were sex workers. Many of them were very much straight but they knew they could make money by having sex with men, particularly older men. I have no idea what Broke Straight Boys pays its actors but there is a group in Las Vegas that pays a very solid 4 figures for a straight young man in reasonably decent condition to have anal sex with another man. One of my former clients who was just out of the marines was pulling in just over 60k a year doing movies, escorting and stripping. His wife was completely cool with it and went with him when he filmed.

 

[joninliverton]

Interesting that this thread has taken such a direction that there are much fewer posts on the actual film. Says it all I guess..

 

[joeychuck2]

gave it a 4 only because Johnny is in it but he wasn't his usual hot self. I lacked a lot of stuff Hope he gets more practice.

 

[Buckeye1]

gave it a 4 only because Johnny is in it but he wasn't his usual hot self. I lacked a lot of stuff Hope he gets more practice.

He has only made 21 scenes (that have been released). Seems to me the "practice phase" should have been surpassed long ago. It appears to me that he is one of those models who hangs onto his job by only his looks and personality which btw is often enough for me.
Most models have to improve and try new things.....some don't.

 

[elyot1]

Johnny is so predictable now. You know what you're going to see before you see it. He's said he was a professional. Well, professionals are always striving to get better. One gets the impression we should all be grateful that Johnny is here. Personally Id rather see Adam, Ayden, Duncan, Jason. They always surprise you and give it their best. Johnny may be good looking and charming to some, but he is a lousy cocksucker, not a great top and doesn't seem to have any interest in getting any better at his profession.

 

[joninliverton]

He has only made 21 scenes (that have been released). Seems to me the "practice phase" should have been surpassed long ago. It appears to me that he is one of those models who hangs onto his job by only his looks and personality which btw is often enough for me.
Most models have to improve and try new things.....some don't.

It takes two to tango Robb and tbh Liam was just as bad. The same applies to Elyot1's post. BTW welcome back Elyot1 x