Incident w/ a Model

[Arckangel]

Here’s an incident I’d like to share w/ you…

This appeared on Cliff's timeline last Sunday:
"My http://JustFor.Fans page is where it's at, and I just got a new subscriber! http://justfor.fans/LoveCliffJensen?Source=NewFanTwitter"

Note: Cliff deleted his JFF tweet but not his attack... Here's a screengrab of Cliff's tweet as it now appears in an Instagram DM:

"My https://t.co/apAIQztK6Y page is where it's at, and I just got a new subscriber! https://t.co/Q1Sr7PUm8P"


772_steven replied:
"So basically a bunch of reposted stuff? Lol"
Note: He did like my tweet below, and he later deleted his tweet, probably to avoid Cliff's wrath.

I responded:
"Apparently, if you check, it wasn't updated since last April."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1586793538204966915

Cliff then took offence and retorted:
"my shit updates all the fucking time these are automated posts! if you don’t fucking like it goes somewhere the fuck else Keep bitching and nagging and I’m gonna fucking block your ass! Actually ima block you ass byeeee"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1586858533718396928

My receipts:

All I did was note the last update was made in April.
Maybe some updates are invisible to non-subscribers, but I’ve been on JFF for awhile, and it does appear the last update was made in April. You can visit his JFF (after logging in after free JFF registration) and see for yourselves.

I was just a fan giving him some feedback to improve his business, yet he responded like I was a hater or whiner endangering his business…

Yes, I had previously given him (directly or when responding to a few fans) some feedback to improve his OF (not JFF) portal I did join for a month (from Sep. to Oct.), the same feedback he had gotten from other fans, namely a lesser subscription price or no more PPV (pay-per-view), more DM interaction and some guy-on-guy action. He had gotten several pieces of constructive feedback from 772_steven as well. Cliff himself, last September, apologized for kind of neglecting his OF and ran a $6 special. I did not renew since he hadn't brought the promised changes (not even one full-length hardcore vid is available non-PPV on his OF).

That said, I was always polite, and I had no more feedback for him. I just responded to a fan by noting his JFF hadn’t been updated in awhile. That portal of his was likely abandoned, but he lost it when I mentioned it…

I did not even care about his JFF since his OF is active. That was purely a technical remark.

Many models are nice, but not all, of course. Too bad! It’s more his loss than mine. There are plenty of other models I follow and support that are much nicer, just as hot, and provide better content for one’s money.

 

[Arckangel]

Regarding that drama Cliff engineered, I now understand something. In order to have a good relationship w/ types like Cliff Jensen or Aaron Carter, one must completely, totally disregard any flaw or shortcoming of theirs, not make them notice anything, even if they were *paid* to do something. It’s the only way to ever possibly get w/ them.

If you ever politely make them notice anything (even something purely technical as described above), they may snap and act like you’re the pest annoying, smothering them or endangering their business. I’ve never had that kind of personal interaction w/ Carter, but I know he’s like that too. An artist once made Aaron notice he had been using his art without his permission. (Aaron had been using it on his website and merch.) Jonas Jödicke made a polite complaint, and Aaron just lost it on him on Twitter the same way Cliff Jensen lost it on me.

Instead of acknowledging the artist, Aaron Carter pretended he did nothing wrong, the art was public domain, and that Jonas Jödicke was a “dick” using him for clout. Carter even threatened to take him to court. In the end, Jödicke won.

Aaron Carter pays artist $12,500 settlement after using work on merch without permission

 

[br6205]

Sorry to hear that but would not it be better to find others who don't act like Carter & his ilk?

 

[chac54]

I subbed to Aaron for one month, his content is way overpriced (IMHO) for just a few pics or a very short snip of him wagging his dick, plus he doesn't seem to do cum vids (at least while I was subbed), so I moved on.

 

[tampa24]

Wow. That's some messed up drama.

 

[tampa24]

OMFG!

The first thing I check after leaving this thread is a news thread saying that Aaron Cater died this morning at 34 years old.

 

[mikeyank]

OMFG!

The first thing I check after leaving this thread is a news thread saying that Aaron Cater died this morning at 34 years old.

Wow! I didn’t know it was the same guy being discussed in this thread. I guess I have to learn more about Aaron Carter.

 

[tampa24]

Yeah. They say he was discovered (or EMT's arrived at the scene) at 11:00 am. But that's Pacific time. So it would have been around 2:00 pm here in the East.

 

[Arckangel]

Wow. That's some messed up drama.

Yeah. Cliff Jensen is scum. I hate utterly ungrateful and unreasonable models like that. I’m not saying models have to be all smile, super-nice all the time, respond to every single DM, etc., but come on! A minimum of politeness and reason can’t hurt! I was actually rooting for him, supporting him and promoting him. Shame on him! Lose him! Forget him!

As for Carter, yeah, it’s troubling and sad, esp. since he had a young child. I remember Aaron Carter years ago saying he feared his family was going to place him under c-ship and kill him just so they could seize all his possessions. It was unclear if that was real or just delusion-induced mania, but he seemed credible to me. And then, things started to get better. He met Miss Melanie Martin, and his finances skyrocketed through OnlyFans (as overpriced as his portal was). Still, there was regular drama, but he seemed to have gotten it together somehow, enough to be able to function. And there was the birth of his son Prince. And now, he’s gone in mysterious and controversial circumstances.

Aaron Carter - Same Way

 

[chac54]

OMFG!

The first thing I check after leaving this thread is a news thread saying that Aaron Cater died this morning at 34 years old.

Wow! I didn’t know it was the same guy being discussed in this thread. I guess I have to learn more about Aaron Carter.

Well shit. I talked some smack about his OF page and now he's gone So damn sad, and way too young to pass

 

[Arckangel]

@chac54 No guilt there! You’re totally right about his OF page. I’d never join such overpriced PPV portals, not even for a celebrity. Maybe it’s just me, but I’d rather spend $115 per month on 12 hot portals than the same amount on only a few of lesser quality.

And yeah, God have his soul!

 

[br6205]

Sadly far too many,you may remember I highlighted a Helix model recently who died last year & was only in his early 20's & was a very nice person.

 

[peterh6308]

Sorry this happened to you Arc. Cliff has always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder, but I did like his older scenes! I too follow and correspond with a lot of porn models and for the most part the ones I actually talked to on the phone are all sweethearts...

 

[Arckangel]

@peterh6308 Thx. There's always a risk involved in interacting w/ one's fave models, so there must be moderation and caution, but then again, some types are just unpredictable or too irritable.

 

[br6205]

@peterh6308 Thx. There's always a risk involved in interacting w/ one's fave models, so there must be moderation and caution, but then again, some types are just unpredictable or too irritable.

Same thing holds for writers of gay porn.

 

[Arckangel]

Further proof Cliff is scum! He's threatened violence against our own Paul Canon over a joke!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1604964107332964352

https://twitter.com/x/status/1599768570518392833

https://twitter.com/x/status/1604982792986804224

 

[Arckangel]

Apparently, Cliff was referring to @My10RodXXX. Cliff should have quote retweeted @My10RodXXX, then, and tagged Paul if he wanted to tell Paul something about him. But still...