It was indeed very sad the way he dropped in popularity so quickly. That had to have been very hard on him. As you say Johnny. He was just a kid/very young adult. I hope he can pull it all together again, pick himself up and move on to a happier future. I will always have love for him.
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It was indeed very sad the way he dropped in popularity so quickly. That had to have been very hard on him. As you say Johnny. He was just a kid/very young adult. I hope he can pull it all together again, pick himself up and move on to a happier future. I will always have love for him.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I will keep him in my thoughts and prayers.
Spartans987
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some how he can read these posts and I sure got an ear full tonight when he called me and he was pissed with what I had to say...
Tyler - you have so many fans and we all wish you the best - pull it together and show us the real man you are, we miss that
You do indeed still have many fans Tyler. But not just fans of your work... But people who truly want to see you happy, healthy and prospering in life. You still have plenty of people over here who care about you as a person and fellow human being.
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Don't feel bad Spartans you just said what you felt.We can see the pictures and he didn't look like the Tyler we ALL fell in Love with.
That was part of Tylers problem. He asked are opinion, how to better himself etc. We gave it.
And he got pissed. If you look back there was nothing but Love for him. All the love went to his head and he really could not take the negative remarks.
At the end he acted like a spoiled child. He had a lot of fans but just turned in to a wise ass.
I would love to see him back. Just don't think that will happen. He was Very cute but no Paul.
Now that is just my opinion. Just me.
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Spartans987
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Thanks for opening my eyes Johnny, I took a look back as you suggested and read a lot and wow that now makes sense how much and quickly he changed. I never read all that before and when I joined in November/December he was already on his way out and he had pissed off a lot of people, it makes a lot more sense now
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I'm sorry that Tyler has departed, and like everyone, I hope he is doing OK. I thought he was a super-cute guy, and always turned in very exciting performances. (I enjoyed his saucy, insouciant, attitude ;-)
I don't follow all the metrics on the performers, and was a little surprised to learn (from this thread) that Tyler had ascended to become one of the most popular models on Broke Straight Boys . . only to suffer a precipitous fall in popularity, a little while later. I don't know who measured this decline, or how it was measured - apart from comments on this board, which I suspect are statistically not completely representative. But I know that such things happen.
However, I do think that a great many commentators and would-be "helpers", to models, are perhaps just a little too astringent, by times. Over time, on this site and on others, I have noted (and this will be no surprise to anyone) that members divide into two broad categories: those who support and encourage the models, treating them as human beings; and those who adhere to the "vending-machine" model, viz.: "I put my nickel in the slot, and now it is YOUR JOB to give me a perfect orgasm, on MY TERMS and in just the way I LIKE - or you're useless, and ought to be discarded."
I don't know if Tyler was treated this way by members, or management (I am not versed in all the winding discursions presented by people, on his threads; I just don't keep up with all that stuff, anymore): but I suspect that there might have been an element of that, in the matter of his ultimate alienation from Broke Straight Boys
One thing is for sure, though. (And here, I am going to take a slightly different perspective and course, from my beloved friend, Johnny from San Francisco.)
Who's kidding, whom? When a model, ANY model, opens up to us on this board - it is (in large part) because he is seeking a little praise and reassurance for undertaking a very risky career decision. Just as anyone, in any artistic or creative enterprise, would do.
When Tyler asked, "How can I make my performances better?" - sure, I imagine he was open to a few gentle suggestions, but was mostly wanting (and soliciting) a little reassurance about how he was doing. Creative people do this all the time - writers, singers, pianists, painters, sculptors, you name it - ASKING for critique, but really HOPING FOR, (mostly) acceptance.
Now, the harder-nosed amongst you will immediately protest: "He ASKED, and we just told him the TRUTH. And we are paying for this!!!!" But, while that is true, as far as it goes. . . it betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of both the human psyche, AND of our models. Many (if not most) of our models are vulnerable young people, who have a lot of problems with finances, life circumstances, and self-esteem. A few come JUST and SOLELY for the money. . . but, many also come with a small (perhaps subconscious) hope that they will be liked, and admired. No less a person than the great Johnny Carson is on record as having stated that, since his Mother never loved him all that much, and didn't think he was all that funny, or all that talented. . . he spent the rest of his life seeking that love and approval, from strangers. And that's just what our models do, the ones who are truly committed to the project - believe it or not, just as you will.
Every time a member tells a model, directly: "You know, I really didn't like that scene. . . You weren't at your best/you seemed mechanical/you looked a little fatter/I DIDN'T LIKE IT". . . . that member is laying a BURDEN on that model. Casting aspersions upon his personal charm and magnetism and fitness and sexual appeal. Some models take those sorts of comments with grace, and with their chin UP - others get combative, and provoke great and inevitably entertaining rows, on the board. What is certain is - every time a member makes a comment like that, he is hurting a vulnerable human being, who is already feeling all the MORE vulnerable, to be performing in a setting like this.
I don't know why this is so difficult for people to understand - though I suppose, some people just don't give a damn. If one of my clients tells me I have just written a presentation that he thinks, sucks: it doesn't matter how "constructive" the criticism is, I'll feel bad for weeks. I am sure that if someone tells Johnny that he has just given them the worst haircut he's ever had - Johnny will feel just as bad. Well, multiply those bad feelings times TEN, when you tell someone he hasn't been SEXY or APPEALING - because that cuts a lot CLOSER to an individual's core personality and BEING, than anything fabricated at a desk, or upon a shop-floor.
Over the years, I have been alternately delighted and dismayed by the way people interact with the models, on this board. Some are invariably courtly and polite and sweet to them (as Tampa always is); others are blunt and curt and unfeeling - perfect exemplars of the "vending-machine" school of human relations. The latter cadre (I must confess) make me mourn for the decline of civility, generally: and, I imagine, have played their own special part in the decline of Broke Straight Boys as a site - or at least, the increasing difficulty in attracting and retaining, beautiful models.
Don't, therefore, be surprised that we lost Tyler White. Because no one (no one) will continue for long in a place where he is not appreciated.
"A" :-((((
I'm sorry that Tyler has departed, and like everyone, I hope he is doing OK. I thought he was a super-cute guy, and always turned in very exciting performances. (I enjoyed his saucy, insouciant, attitude ;-)
I don't follow all the metrics on the performers, and was a little surprised to learn (from this thread) that Tyler had ascended to become one of the most popular models on Broke Straight Boys . . only to suffer a precipitous fall in popularity, a little while later. I don't know who measured this decline, or how it was measured - apart from comments on this board, which I suspect are statistically not completely representative. But I know that such things happen.
However, I do think that a great many commentators and would-be "helpers", to models, are perhaps just a little too astringent, by times. Over time, on this site and on others, I have noted (and this will be no surprise to anyone) that members divide into two broad categories: those who support and encourage the models, treating them as human beings; and those who adhere to the "vending-machine" model, viz.: "I put my nickel in the slot, and now it is YOUR JOB to give me a perfect orgasm, on MY TERMS and in just the way I LIKE - or you're useless, and ought to be discarded."
I don't know if Tyler was treated this way by members, or management (I am not versed in all the winding discursions presented by people, on his threads; I just don't keep up with all that stuff, anymore): but I suspect that there might have been an element of that, in the matter of his ultimate alienation from Broke Straight Boys
One thing is for sure, though. (And here, I am going to take a slightly different perspective and course, from my beloved friend, Johnny from San Francisco.)
Who's kidding, whom? When a model, ANY model, opens up to us on this board - it is (in large part) because he is seeking a little praise and reassurance for undertaking a very risky career decision. Just as anyone, in any artistic or creative enterprise, would do.
When Tyler asked, "How can I make my performances better?" - sure, I imagine he was open to a few gentle suggestions, but was mostly wanting (and soliciting) a little reassurance about how he was doing. Creative people do this all the time - writers, singers, pianists, painters, sculptors, you name it - ASKING for critique, but really HOPING FOR, (mostly) acceptance.
Now, the harder-nosed amongst you will immediately protest: "He ASKED, and we just told him the TRUTH. And we are paying for this!!!!" But, while that is true, as far as it goes. . . it betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of both the human psyche, AND of our models. Many (if not most) of our models are vulnerable young people, who have a lot of problems with finances, life circumstances, and self-esteem. A few come JUST and SOLELY for the money. . . but, many also come with a small (perhaps subconscious) hope that they will be liked, and admired. No less a person than the great Johnny Carson is on record as having stated that, since his Mother never loved him all that much, and didn't think he was all that funny, or all that talented. . . he spent the rest of his life seeking that love and approval, from strangers. And that's just what our models do, the ones who are truly committed to the project - believe it or not, just as you will.
Every time a member tells a model, directly: "You know, I really didn't like that scene. . . You weren't at your best/you seemed mechanical/you looked a little fatter/I DIDN'T LIKE IT". . . . that member is laying a BURDEN on that model. Casting aspersions upon his personal charm and magnetism and fitness and sexual appeal. Some models take those sorts of comments with grace, and with their chin UP - others get combative, and provoke great and inevitably entertaining rows, on the board. What is certain is - every time a member makes a comment like that, he is hurting a vulnerable human being, who is already feeling all the MORE vulnerable, to be performing in a setting like this.
I don't know why this is so difficult for people to understand - though I suppose, some people just don't give a damn. If one of my clients tells me I have just written a presentation that he thinks, sucks: it doesn't matter how "constructive" the criticism is, I'll feel bad for weeks. I am sure that if someone tells Johnny that he has just given them the worst haircut he's ever had - Johnny will feel just as bad. Well, multiply those bad feelings times TEN, when you tell someone he hasn't been SEXY or APPEALING - because that cuts a lot CLOSER to an individual's core personality and BEING, than anything fabricated at a desk, or upon a shop-floor.
Over the years, I have been alternately delighted and dismayed by the way people interact with the models, on this board. Some are invariably courtly and polite and sweet to them (as Tampa always is); others are blunt and curt and unfeeling - perfect exemplars of the "vending-machine" school of human relations. The latter cadre (I must confess) make me mourn for the decline of civility, generally: and, I imagine, have played their own special part in the decline of Broke Straight Boys as a site - or at least, the increasing difficulty in attracting and retaining, beautiful models.
Don't, therefore, be surprised that we lost Tyler White. Because no one (no one) will continue for long in a place where he is not appreciated.
"A" :-((((
betudidntknow
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I agree with so many things you touched upon Ambi! Lately especially, I've been writing my comments with the thought that, if the models in the scene I am commenting on should read it, there will be at least one comment they can feel good about. I am not saying every comment has to be positive but, the are ways to be honest and truthful with tact and still be respectful of another person. Thanks for your post
Wow Ambi!
You've said a mouthful. I'll start off just by saying that I wish I could always live up to that pedestal you put me on in here. But honestly there have been times when I have not lived up to that specific praise. I have indeed panned certain videos and even some models. More so in the deeper past than more recently. But all of us are human and we sometimes will post things in the present that don't always give a model (or even a director) much to cling to in the way of compliments. I see in your praise though the realization that most times I try very hard, even in a tough critique of a model or scene, to not cut too deeply and personally. I always try to offer some kind of honest praise where I can find it.
In the same theme of which you speak above, there's a particular model from the past whose performances on the site I just couldn't stand. Mikey and I go round and round on this one almost comically. The mere mention of his name is like waving a red flag in front of a bull for me. lol When I throw out my already well known opinion, Mikey is always quick to respond with praise for the model and his work. And while I believe that his perception is totally wrong (lol)...I'll share something with just the few of you standing in this corner with me, that I've never shared with even Mikey himself. When he comes to that model's defense, no matter how much some of his over the top praise of the model annoys and sometimes even infuriates me.... *whispering voice* Deep down...I always respect him for it. lol Why? Because he's coming to the defense of another human being.
Since this is Tyler's thread, I'll get to the main points of the issues you bring up. If you are looking for a measuring standard of sorts to show you the heartbreaking swiftness of Tyler's decline of popularity, here's an excerpt of a PM I sent to someone on the staff back in September of last year:
"When I met him [Tyler] in June [at Orlando Pride 2014] he had the wind to his back, he was hugely popular and he seemed likely to have a long and fruitful career on the site. He was rated the number one model on the site while he was in Orlando. He was doing fine on the set as he was. Then in the next several scenes all of that totally fell apart. His rating has fallen from the top of the first page…to the bottom of the sixth page! And I don’t blame Tyler for all of that."
Let me repeat that again for emphasis. At the beginning of June 2014 Tyler was rated not just in the top 5 models. He was rated number 1 on the first page of most popular models. He had bumped Paul to number 2. Following the release of the disastrous 4 man orgy scene with Tyler, Ryan, Skyler, and Kayden on August 1st...Tyler's rating had plummeted from being number 1 on the first page of most popular models, to being relegated to the sixth page. (As of 2015 Tyler's rating has improved and brought him back up from page 6 to page 3.)
I go on to say that I was disappointed that Johnny and the other professionals on the set didn't realize that the fake overacting and "Tyler's new assertiveness" as Johnny termed it to us prior to the release of the newer Tyler scenes, would be a disaster on a supposed reality site like this one. I tried to make the point that Tyler himself was still an amateur model depending on the guidance and advice of professionals and industry experts to make him look good on set. I felt they had let him down. Either that or they themselves misread the audience. I asked if there was any way he could be brought back and given better advice on how to restore his commercial popularity.
Can some of you, like Spartan, see how devastating that was for Tyler personally as a 21 y/o guy? He had been an immediate sensation here. His beginning work had been magnificent. Maybe for the first time in his very difficult life up to that point, he was experiencing nothing but praise, admiration and positive feedback. Even adoration. Then...suddenly it all changed. Then it was mostly negative feedback. Not surprisingly he was stung very personally by this. He reacted with hurt feelings, anger and defensiveness. In his circumstances, who wouldn't? He's a human being looking for love and acceptance just like all the rest of us.
I still love you Tyler! Just as I did from the very beginning. I will always worry about you, think of you, appreciate you as the beautiful human being you are, and forever wish you well in life. xoxo
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I agree with you Tampa on most of what you have to say. I blame management and the higher ups for handling Tyler all wrong.
After all he was just a child. All of a sudden Loved and admired by so many. Myself included.I thought he was a Beautiful boy. Oh.. And that cute little ass.
Of coarse it would go to his head.The thing is he just kept coming back for more.
As things got more negative so did he.That was the fault of management they just cast him to
the wind.They should have stopped his posting. But in my three years I have seen that happen to a lot
of the boy's on this site.. But as in life they Love you when your on top but when your falling they just let you drift.
After all he was just a child. All of a sudden Loved and admired by so many. Myself included.I thought he was a Beautiful boy. Oh.. And that cute little ass.
Of coarse it would go to his head.The thing is he just kept coming back for more.
As things got more negative so did he.That was the fault of management they just cast him to
the wind.They should have stopped his posting. But in my three years I have seen that happen to a lot
of the boy's on this site.. But as in life they Love you when your on top but when your falling they just let you drift.
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betudidntknow
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I must say that I truly enjoyed reading both Ambi's post and the post that Tampa made. I know from my perspective as "just a fan" I often have to remind myself that, this is a porn site. These are models but, yes they are people too! As we saw during a period when the BTS were filmed from the mansion, some of these people who are models are "broken" both in spirit and due to circumstances. They are here for a myriad of reasons: to make money, maybe to gain a bit of recognition from people "fans" or even, just to experience what it's like to be treated decent for once in their lives, even if just while doing this as a job. We can't save them All from themselves! Neither can management. Sometimes, people may not be seeking the right path and perhaps, finding another way of earning money that doesn't lend them to the exploitation of porn.
I know that this thread is actually about Tyler and I have to say, Tyler just never seemed to "fit" into the gay for pay category in my opinion. He may have had all of the physical attributes that fit perfectly into so many a member's fantasy but, all I could ever see was a youngster who should never have been here in the first place.
I do hope that he's doing well and finds his happiness doing something he can be proud of himself for doing!
I know that this thread is actually about Tyler and I have to say, Tyler just never seemed to "fit" into the gay for pay category in my opinion. He may have had all of the physical attributes that fit perfectly into so many a member's fantasy but, all I could ever see was a youngster who should never have been here in the first place.
I do hope that he's doing well and finds his happiness doing something he can be proud of himself for doing!
betudidntknow
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My friend Johnny. I know that we as fans, spend more time on this site and seem more in touch with things as we see them, compared to what goes on, on other sites. This is a business for those who work in it. Mistakes are made and we are more likely to hear negative things from those who've felt they've been wronged by this site and it's managers. But, what would people like Vadim Black or Cage Kafig say about their experiences else where?
I also considered this Betu. From the way I see it, management didn't have much control over what Tyler wanted to post. No more so than they could control Damien Kyle or PC. lol When a model lives in another state and a staff member calls and tries to convince a model to stop posting or to censor their posts (short of banning them from the forum) there's very little that can be done.
My earlier point was not so much that management should have censored Tyler or gotten him to stop posting. I wasn't really thinking in terms of the forum at all. I just wished the staff had stepped in while he was still on the set and convinced him not to try the overacting, yelling and carrying-on...or put him into a scene where he was told to do a fake rimming sequence. So I agree with Johnny on that point. If the professionals on the set had stopped Tyler and counseled him before the damage was done with a handful of weak scenes, he would never have needed advice on how to handle negative feedback on the forum. But we can't change the past. I'm just reiterating the fact that not all of Tyler's loss of popularity at the time was his fault. He was the one who suffered the most for it though. :/
My earlier point was not so much that management should have censored Tyler or gotten him to stop posting. I wasn't really thinking in terms of the forum at all. I just wished the staff had stepped in while he was still on the set and convinced him not to try the overacting, yelling and carrying-on...or put him into a scene where he was told to do a fake rimming sequence. So I agree with Johnny on that point. If the professionals on the set had stopped Tyler and counseled him before the damage was done with a handful of weak scenes, he would never have needed advice on how to handle negative feedback on the forum. But we can't change the past. I'm just reiterating the fact that not all of Tyler's loss of popularity at the time was his fault. He was the one who suffered the most for it though. :/
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Well it's only been a little over a hour and I'm posting again.I apologize for acting like a child and not being able to handle a little criticism.
Thank you Betu and Tampa for your insightful input. xoxo Johnny
Thank you Betu and Tampa for your insightful input. xoxo Johnny
Spartans987
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This has been a great thread, insightful, and very enjoyable to read. I have enjoyed the insight and words of Tampa, Ambi, BETU, and Johnny (I am glad your still posting). I really get the message and Tampa you are right on because Management did not have any control over Tylers actions as they don't with any performer however in my opinion Management could have better prepared Tyler for his success and how to deal with what comes with it, the good and bad. I do know that Tyler spoke very high of Sha and Tyler knew that Sha had his back and was instrumental in positively guiding him for a short time.
Like some of you who have had the opportunity to meet and spend time with Tyler, he is genuine and he is much like what you have seen in his earlier performances on Broke Straight Boys For a young guy he has experienced a bit more tragedy, unfortunate incidents, and major stress in his life that some his age just don't experience with little to no guidance and unfortunately "other" distractions have led him to spiral down and crash. It is obvious that he had and still has many fans which helps his self esteem. His face lights up when he gets a compliment and like a jolt of caffeine he becomes motivated to better himself although far and few between because of his "current lifestyle" which only he has the power to change.
Again, it has been great to read these comments about Tyler and to feel the love and concern for a guy on a porn site. Just goes to show the power of the forum and the unique and great members that we all are.
Like some of you who have had the opportunity to meet and spend time with Tyler, he is genuine and he is much like what you have seen in his earlier performances on Broke Straight Boys For a young guy he has experienced a bit more tragedy, unfortunate incidents, and major stress in his life that some his age just don't experience with little to no guidance and unfortunately "other" distractions have led him to spiral down and crash. It is obvious that he had and still has many fans which helps his self esteem. His face lights up when he gets a compliment and like a jolt of caffeine he becomes motivated to better himself although far and few between because of his "current lifestyle" which only he has the power to change.
Again, it has been great to read these comments about Tyler and to feel the love and concern for a guy on a porn site. Just goes to show the power of the forum and the unique and great members that we all are.
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Hey, Betu, I think you are exactly right, in saying, "There are ways to be honest and truthful with tact and still be respectful of another person." There has always been a certain tension, on this board, between turning in honest, and sometimes critical reviews, and also offering support to models we like and care about. I know it is a fine balance, but I think that, not only do we as members have a human responsibility to find that balance. . . I also think we benefit from a much better site, when we do!
Hugs, and thanks for your comments on this.
"A" XOXOXOXOXO
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Hey, Tampa -
Yes, I DO (absolutely) recognize in you the impulse always to be as kind and charitable as possible to the models - and the members, too! And to offer every criticism you have to offer gently, and constructively. Your story about yours and Mikey's aesthetic "merry-go-round" from the past, is really funny - and I think I've been on one or two of those carousels, too, on this site (once or twice, even with Mikey - LOL!): albeit that I am a relative newbie, and my participation has been limited.
That's just the way things go, sometimes, especially when strong aesthetic sentiments are involved. But I think you are right, Tampa, to suggest that defending another human being is (almost) always a good thing. *I draw the line at certain Russian dictators, of course;-)* (XOXOXOXOXO)
I wasn't aware, before it was pointed out to me, how swift was Tyler's decline in some members' favour. I always liked him, just: some scenes I liked better than others. However, I did go back and skim through some of the scenes deemed less-successful (including the infamous "orgy"-scene - - - and, parenthetically, I am never a fan of orgy-scenes, anyway, as I don't think they ever show off great models' talents): and I agree that perhaps some of those scenes were less successful than they could have been, BUT. . .
I agree with the consensus you and Johnny have forged, that this was more a directorial lapse, than a models' lapse. (And I use the latter plural, advisedly ;-) *The fake 'rimming' in the orgy scene was, indeed, quite funny - but that wasn't Tyler's fault. As far as Tyler being a little too vocal in a number of the later scenes, again, I think what you saw there. . . was a guy who was working SO HARD to please his fans, and not getting cues from the directorial staff to say, "Hey, Tyler. . . it's OK: you can just be Tyler, and people are totally going to love you."
I have the sense that Tyler is a NATURALLY saucy and vocal guy, and I find that quite SEXY, actually ;-) Just maybe, in some of the latter scenes, I also get the sense that Tyler was encouraged to turn that UP a notch or two beyond what people would find believeable, or what people really saw as the NATURAL SEXINESS of Tyler. Because maybe some directors imagined that heightening some of Tyler's NATURAL qualities would make him even MORE popular - and they were wrong, about that. But I don't think that was Tyler's fault for the most part - or maybe, AT ALL.
I respectfully disagree with Betu (whom I like so much!) as to the proposition that perhaps Tyler didn't "fit" into the site-model. On the contrary, I think he was the ideal fit for the site model. . . I simply surmise that he didn't get the good direction he deserved. I will say, though, that even the lowest-rated amongst Tyler's scenes (and those which seem to have drawn a lot of critique): Istill found very sexy!!!;-) And I think that if the directorial staff had let "Tyler be Tyler", we would all be having quite a different conversation, today.
Tamps, you are 100 per cent right (in my opinion) to point out that when effusive praise turned to negative comments, it was bound to hurt Tyler's feelings. Because he IS a human being. . . and offering to share a sexual moment is a lot different, from presenting your latest "widget", to the CEO of Acme Corporation. One's sexual being, and performance, are very closely tied to one's self-perception, generally (I am sure that more than one of us know a friend or two who has been in therapy for years, for having been "panned" in the bedroom): and, especially because Tyler tried so HARD - - - no wonder he was disappointed, and even angry, with some members.
Because, more than a lot of models - Tyler actually CARED about what he was doing, and what members thought. (And maybe that was a mistake, and that could be the subject of a whole other conversation.) But that is why, even if Tyler exploded with choler, in response to some members' criticisms of his performances. . . I think he deserves a pass, on this. Not JUST because he is young; and not JUST because he had been hurt before; but mostly because he cared, and was really trying, and he got a close-up glimpse of how people in the gay "community" (and, to be fair, people EVERYWHERE) can sometimes BE. The whole incident (I think) doesn't reflect particularly well upon the way we, as members, sometimes take even our "icons", for granted :-((((
I'll conclude my thoughts on this subject by saying, first: Spartans - thank you for your defence of Tyler, and your concern for him, as a FRIEND. Please don't walk that back ONE BIT. Because, you're right to stick up for Tyler.
And second (echoing Tampa): I love you, too, Tyler. As far as I am concerned, you are a beautiful, sexy, and absolutely captivating guy: and I LOVED and LOVE your performances, and your time on the Broke Straight Boys board. And, like Tampa, I think you are a beautiful person, and wish you well in everything you do. You did a great kindness allowing us to get to know you, a little.
"A" XOXOXOXOXOXOXO
Thank you Ambi for another well thought out post. The linear logic of it pretty much speaks for itself. One of the main things that was so heartbreaking about Tyler's drop in ratings was that it was so preventable. (In hindsight at least.) The director himself (who I actually liked very much) was a little bit tone deaf as to what his audience wanted and expected. He did let Tyler down by setting up that orgy scene the way he did, and then encouraging Tyler to go into a theatrical porn star mode of playing to the camera. It took us from a reality-based site format and into a contrived stereotypical gay porn studio production. (Cue the corny music and the dubbed-in moaning track in the background that moans even when both models' mouths are closed.)
I remember the director gushing in the forum about how much he looked forward to our response to the "more assertive" Tyler we would see in upcoming scenes. He wasn't around during Broke Straight Boys-2 with Clay. But Kodi's popularity almost fell off the cliff when Kodi started overacting, going overboard with the redundant dirty talk and generally hamming it up for the camera. The professional staff on the set should have understood their audience well enough to have guided a relative newbie like Tyler to tone down the verbosity, and keep it to a more realistic and believable level.
The other thing as you say Ambi is that Tyler was one of those very rare models who arrived here really wanting to do well. He wasn't one of those who just showed up for the paycheck, did the minimum work requested and then took off back home with nary a glance back. Tyler really cared about doing a good job here and pleasing the fans. He wanted to know how the fans felt about him and his work. Of course he wanted and no doubt needed the money. But he was also more personally invested in succeeding here than probably 95% of the models who normally come through. All of which made it that much more heartbreaking and personal for him when his ratings took a sudden turn for the worse. If he lashed out in anger sometimes after feeling that he put so much into his performances with the sole intent of trying to please...I can easily understand and forgive it.
Tyler you are forever loved. Unconditionally. I appreciate all the work you gave us here. Few models in the history of the site have tried to put as much effort into their work as you have. You are a good person who has had to cope with a lot in life. You do have the inner strength and self-respect to rise above setback or obstacle, just as you always have all your life.
mikeyank
Long time forumite
This thread was started by our late great model, Tyler White in March of 2014. Thirty pages, 299 posts and I counted 34 different members who posted on this thread. We heard from Damien Kyle who was quite a prolific poster on the forum himself. And Tyler spoke to all of us and answered our questions. This was six years into the forum and while the production studio and the models had changed from 2008, the forum was still going strong.
Of note was a member who put up some photographs of himself with both Tyler and Paul Canon at Parliment House in Orlando at a Broke Straight Boys event there. Our own Tampa attended that event too. This thread and reading it this morning makes me miss the old forum so much and what it once was as compared to what it is today……
Here are a few of the pics from this marvelous thread of the Broke Straight Boys event in Orlando…….
Of note was a member who put up some photographs of himself with both Tyler and Paul Canon at Parliment House in Orlando at a Broke Straight Boys event there. Our own Tampa attended that event too. This thread and reading it this morning makes me miss the old forum so much and what it once was as compared to what it is today……
Here are a few of the pics from this marvelous thread of the Broke Straight Boys event in Orlando…….
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