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We had to knit our own condoms.
That was back when men were men and sheep were worried.
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Generations On The Forum
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That was back when men were men and sheep were worried.
Markymark
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Only the Southern sheep needed to worry! In the North, we had Horses, or was it just that our guys seemed that big?
I think I fall kind of in the middle of the generational spread here. When I first joined the forum, I found myself overwhelmed and often upset by the arguments, the strong differences in opinion, the berating, the colorful language, hell, everything. But I quickly learned to appreciate everyone on here for their original perspective. After all, I was pretty readily accepted and couldn't believe that, to begin with. Why would you all care to hear anything I have to say? Maybe you don't care, and that's ok, too.
This is an intimidating place to come at times, keeping many from ever saying a thing, and compelling others to say everything that pops into their heads. It's the diversity that keeps it interesting. My concern of late is how frequently we've had posters come on with their guns locked and loaded looking for a fight, and how quickly they get shot down. We've got people dropping like flies around here. There has to be some way to keep the forum interesting, argumentative, debate filled, nasty, dirty and a hell of a lot of fun without chasing people away.
Laura (determined to remain eternally optimistic and open-minded)
This is an intimidating place to come at times, keeping many from ever saying a thing, and compelling others to say everything that pops into their heads. It's the diversity that keeps it interesting. My concern of late is how frequently we've had posters come on with their guns locked and loaded looking for a fight, and how quickly they get shot down. We've got people dropping like flies around here. There has to be some way to keep the forum interesting, argumentative, debate filled, nasty, dirty and a hell of a lot of fun without chasing people away.
Laura (determined to remain eternally optimistic and open-minded)
JLipps4u
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Lovelumps,
There is no easy answer.
There is no easy answer.
Ms. Kianna
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I agree that there is no easy answer, and like Lovelumps, I am a generational fence straddler here. Over all, I have been accepted here, and treated very well, but there are moments that I have felt rejected, but that is by individuals not groups.
I have been very quiet the last few days. I think that when the forum gets like it has the last few days, many people get afraid to talk. I am dealing with some pretty difficult things at home right now, and don't have it in me, to be able to defend myself, if I say the wrong thing, in this volatile environment.
lubetube
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WOW! This is one of the most interesting and insightful threads I've read anywhere in a long time.
There are many things I love about my generation and many things I feel we're just not cutting the mustard compared to generations past.
That's why I personally prefer to mix things up in my life. I enjoy the tolerence (to an extent) of my generation but I feel many of us are too superficial. I enjoy the rich, multi-layered wisdom of many of the older generations. I love to listen and learn from them.
I would be frightened if a 20 something would ever allowed to become president, or a general for example.
i tend to have two circles of friends. One gay and one straight. Many of my straight friends are in their 30s,40s and beyond. I see no problem with that.
Most of my gay friends are around my age and unfortunately there is a reason for that. When I go into a gay club or bar and get chatted up by an older man I know, with high certainty, what he wants. Many (not all) older men make the mistake of believing all young people are stupid and know nothing about the world that occured before we entered the 9th grade.
If I engage in conversation with these men, many tend to take that as a signal of sexual willingness. I realize ther are guys my age who like nothing else but older men, And not because they want sugar daddies. But I'm not wired that way.
I do have some older gay friends. Very cool ones in fact.
My point here is that, as unfortunate as it may be, I believe there will always be generational issues, especially including the gay community.
Recently I complimented a 16 year old gay twink on his hair. I wasn't trying to hit on him. He rolled his eyes and said to my face, "too old." So gentlemen, I know the feeling. lol
I mentioned above that sometimes my generation can be too tolerent. I believe in tolerence unless we begin to tolerate groups whose intent is to be intolerent of others.
Just because I'm gay and want the world to accept us, doesn't mean I have to sit and be mute all the time. There are groups and movements that deserve to be scorned.
There are many things I love about my generation and many things I feel we're just not cutting the mustard compared to generations past.
That's why I personally prefer to mix things up in my life. I enjoy the tolerence (to an extent) of my generation but I feel many of us are too superficial. I enjoy the rich, multi-layered wisdom of many of the older generations. I love to listen and learn from them.
I would be frightened if a 20 something would ever allowed to become president, or a general for example.
i tend to have two circles of friends. One gay and one straight. Many of my straight friends are in their 30s,40s and beyond. I see no problem with that.
Most of my gay friends are around my age and unfortunately there is a reason for that. When I go into a gay club or bar and get chatted up by an older man I know, with high certainty, what he wants. Many (not all) older men make the mistake of believing all young people are stupid and know nothing about the world that occured before we entered the 9th grade.
If I engage in conversation with these men, many tend to take that as a signal of sexual willingness. I realize ther are guys my age who like nothing else but older men, And not because they want sugar daddies. But I'm not wired that way.
I do have some older gay friends. Very cool ones in fact.
My point here is that, as unfortunate as it may be, I believe there will always be generational issues, especially including the gay community.
Recently I complimented a 16 year old gay twink on his hair. I wasn't trying to hit on him. He rolled his eyes and said to my face, "too old." So gentlemen, I know the feeling. lol
I mentioned above that sometimes my generation can be too tolerent. I believe in tolerence unless we begin to tolerate groups whose intent is to be intolerent of others.
Just because I'm gay and want the world to accept us, doesn't mean I have to sit and be mute all the time. There are groups and movements that deserve to be scorned.
JLipps4u
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Ms. K,
I certAinly understand what you mean. There are times when I feel up for a fight, and days I don't. I think it is the same for all of us. And when feeling like this, I too just sit back and read the posts and remain silent. I know someone eventually will say what I am thinking, usually always happens if I wait long enough.
That being said, I feel as though the older I get, the less confrontation I seek. I have come to realize that more wisdom is gained by observing and listening, than by opening my mouth and spewing my opinion. The forum has certainly brought that to my mind ever so clearly, lol. I think that we are all guilty at sometime of posting something before we have a chance to reflect, and it comes across as mean or confrontational. I don't always mean it to be, but I know I have said hateful and hurtful things, to or about someone else. Shame on me! I try not to anymore. And if I, at some point have offended anyone, I do apologize.
I certAinly understand what you mean. There are times when I feel up for a fight, and days I don't. I think it is the same for all of us. And when feeling like this, I too just sit back and read the posts and remain silent. I know someone eventually will say what I am thinking, usually always happens if I wait long enough.
That being said, I feel as though the older I get, the less confrontation I seek. I have come to realize that more wisdom is gained by observing and listening, than by opening my mouth and spewing my opinion. The forum has certainly brought that to my mind ever so clearly, lol. I think that we are all guilty at sometime of posting something before we have a chance to reflect, and it comes across as mean or confrontational. I don't always mean it to be, but I know I have said hateful and hurtful things, to or about someone else. Shame on me! I try not to anymore. And if I, at some point have offended anyone, I do apologize.
JLipps4u
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lubetube,
I appreciate your candid honesty.
When I was your age, I detested older men and dismissed them as foolish and lecherous.
I think that is one of life's greatest ironies. Now, I am that older man! What is worse, I feel foolish and lecherous! I have always hooked up with younger, now my only prerequisite is, that they are willing (no matter what age,lol). I do like to look at the smooth, lean, muscular bodies, and often want to engage a young man in conversation, only to be dismissed because they assume I want something more.
I think back to my youth and realize that often, I avoided the older men because my peers would not understand or accept that I longed for the wisdom and companionship of someone who actually knew more than I did. But peer pressure is a force to be reckoned with! And, unfortunately, we tend to give in to it. I didn't want sex with them, I jsut wanted their frienship, but alas, my group was very against mixing the old with the young. I fear that as a result, I made many mistakes in my life. If only I had follwed my instincts, perhaps I could have avoided some of my greatest mistakes. There is a lot to be said for having an older mentor.
I am thankful that you bring the vibrance of youth to this forum and I encourage you to remain and remind us of how we too felt at your age. Sometimes we need those little reminders.
I appreciate your candid honesty.
When I was your age, I detested older men and dismissed them as foolish and lecherous.
I think that is one of life's greatest ironies. Now, I am that older man! What is worse, I feel foolish and lecherous! I have always hooked up with younger, now my only prerequisite is, that they are willing (no matter what age,lol). I do like to look at the smooth, lean, muscular bodies, and often want to engage a young man in conversation, only to be dismissed because they assume I want something more.
I think back to my youth and realize that often, I avoided the older men because my peers would not understand or accept that I longed for the wisdom and companionship of someone who actually knew more than I did. But peer pressure is a force to be reckoned with! And, unfortunately, we tend to give in to it. I didn't want sex with them, I jsut wanted their frienship, but alas, my group was very against mixing the old with the young. I fear that as a result, I made many mistakes in my life. If only I had follwed my instincts, perhaps I could have avoided some of my greatest mistakes. There is a lot to be said for having an older mentor.
I am thankful that you bring the vibrance of youth to this forum and I encourage you to remain and remind us of how we too felt at your age. Sometimes we need those little reminders.
I gave up trying to sell my book on house training your dinosaur when publishers told me there was no market for it. LOL
Just having fun there. I thing that our paradigm shifts about ever 10 - 20 years or so. As humans we tend to resist change. We often find comfort in some semblance of stability in our lives. The vibrational frequency of the universe continues to increase every day. Every new generation is born into a higher frequency than the last and so forth...
Regardless of change I believe that we are all students of the school of hard knocks. We learn every day from our life's experiences. Those experiences and our up bringing help to shape our attitudes and beliefs. Those attitudes and beliefs are ultimately reflected in our points of view. So, I believe that the open discussions on the Forum have offered many opportunities for growth and understanding alike. I think the key to having great discussions is to reflect things as we see them from our point of view and be mindful not to insult others in the process. It is a delicate balance and eventually we may make mistakes in judgment or even let our ego run a muck. To quote Betty Davis, "It is just a magazine. Cheap and disgusting. And only cheap and disgusting people would read it..." (I may be off on that quote just a bit, it is the thought that counts here) What she says is consider the source. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We don't need to accept those opinions as our own. Being judgmental places us in an elitist/Godlike role. It doesn't serve our highest and greatest good and I am not sure how we earn the right to be in that position unless we are an employer or a teacher trying to impart knowledge, but even then it is hard to really be in that role. The only person that we will ever change is ourself. So, we can: yell, scream, play politics, bribe, or become violent etc... to get things to go our way. Ultimately, people still have a choice. "Insanity is making the same mistakes and expecting different results." - AA
We are where we need to be at any point in time and every person we meet be they friend or foe is an opportunity to learn and grow.
I want to thank everyone that has contributed to the Forum and helping me to learn and grow.
Just having fun there. I thing that our paradigm shifts about ever 10 - 20 years or so. As humans we tend to resist change. We often find comfort in some semblance of stability in our lives. The vibrational frequency of the universe continues to increase every day. Every new generation is born into a higher frequency than the last and so forth...
Regardless of change I believe that we are all students of the school of hard knocks. We learn every day from our life's experiences. Those experiences and our up bringing help to shape our attitudes and beliefs. Those attitudes and beliefs are ultimately reflected in our points of view. So, I believe that the open discussions on the Forum have offered many opportunities for growth and understanding alike. I think the key to having great discussions is to reflect things as we see them from our point of view and be mindful not to insult others in the process. It is a delicate balance and eventually we may make mistakes in judgment or even let our ego run a muck. To quote Betty Davis, "It is just a magazine. Cheap and disgusting. And only cheap and disgusting people would read it..." (I may be off on that quote just a bit, it is the thought that counts here) What she says is consider the source. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We don't need to accept those opinions as our own. Being judgmental places us in an elitist/Godlike role. It doesn't serve our highest and greatest good and I am not sure how we earn the right to be in that position unless we are an employer or a teacher trying to impart knowledge, but even then it is hard to really be in that role. The only person that we will ever change is ourself. So, we can: yell, scream, play politics, bribe, or become violent etc... to get things to go our way. Ultimately, people still have a choice. "Insanity is making the same mistakes and expecting different results." - AA
We are where we need to be at any point in time and every person we meet be they friend or foe is an opportunity to learn and grow.
I want to thank everyone that has contributed to the Forum and helping me to learn and grow.
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My personal overdue contribution to this thread
Dear fellow forumites,
I have another posting that could have just as easily applied to this thread. Instead, I would like to call your attention to my posting today to the "Boys in the Band" thread for my contribution. I hope this gives you some generational insight.
Sincerely,
Stimpy
Dear fellow forumites,
I have another posting that could have just as easily applied to this thread. Instead, I would like to call your attention to my posting today to the "Boys in the Band" thread for my contribution. I hope this gives you some generational insight.
Sincerely,
Stimpy
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