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Generations On The Forum

mikeyank

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There was an interesting discussion yesterday on the forum, about the meaning of words, as expressed by different generations. First of all, I want to say that I think that disagreements, and debates have been among the best moments on this forum. I've been a member here since October 2008, and I began reading the forum as soon as Mark created it, well before I ever posted here. The most interesting topics, by far, have been when there was a difference of views and opinions, be it on the models on the site, the way the scenes are shot, the way David conducts himself with the models, as well as discussions of politics, legalization of drugs, music, social issues, and many others. I feel that the forum began to decline when folks from management as well as posters felt that everyone should be "nice" to each other, and hold back on expressing what they really think and feel. That to me creates a "borefest". Disagreements and debate, when not conducted in a mean spirited way were the life blood of the forum, in the old "kick ass" days. This is an adult site, and spirited discussions by adults is very healthy.

In the early days of the forum, the great majority of posters were middle aged and older men, and I incorrectly assumed that the majority of member's fell into that age group. I was surprised to find that young men were as into Broke Straight Boys, as the older guy's. I had assumed that the young guys were having sex, while the older one's were viewing it. I should have remembered that as a teenager and into my twenties, I loved "dirty magazines", and porn then, as much as I do now. I was really surprised when we had our first woman who posted on the forum. I forget her screen name, but I thought she was a total oddity to the site, but she was followed by many more women, and today some of the females are among the most interesting and prolific posters.

But we are all drawn here by the porn, and the models, and while our ages range from 18 through our 70's, and perhaps even older. While slang may change from generation to generation, and guy's appearance may change in hair styles, and body decorations, it is still about sex and male beauty, and I feel confident that people were fucking and sucking and kissing in pretty much the same manner throughout history. I have heard of "intergenerational" groups that bring young and old folks together. This forum is a great blend of ages, and sexes, and of sexuality, including gay, straight and bisexual folks.

Being a baby boomer growing up in the 1960's, I thought that we were the cool people, who understood the way life should be lived, and the music that was relevant and good, and I was angered by older people who put down our way of dressing, and wearing our hair. We were part of the "don't trust anyone over 30" generation, and we worshipped the Who, who sang "I hope I die before I get old". I swore that if I ever had children, (which I did not), I would never put down any form of music, or style of dress, or musical preferences, as I didn't want to be "just like them".

We are all obviously interested in watching handsome, slim to well built young males who profess to have a heterosexual inclination, engage in gay sex acts, or else we would not pay our monthly subscription fee. I wish that we would celebrate our sense of community here, and not separate into young cliques, or women's groups, or "old folks" communities. As a man who celebrated my 60th birthday in 2010, I can tell the younger members, that you will be here in a "blink of an eye". In my mind it was 1969, and Woodstock was happening a very short while ago. I don't feel that different than I was then, and I can promise you that 40 years from now, you will still be basically the same person on the inside, hopefully wiser, but the same.

I enjoy being around young people, as I can learn from them, and many of my friends over the years have been much younger than myself. To the younger members of the forum, I would say, that we may look older on the surface, but on the inside we are really pretty much the same.
 
Thank you Mike. You know, I was just thinking that while I mourn the passing of my youth, I would never want to go back to it, and relive it, unless, like Mork, I had the benefit of my accrued wisdom to start out with. So much of who I am is a result of many years of careful (and careless) development. And, I have learned not to panic or cringe when I see those coming up behind me make the same mistakes along their paths as I did. I now understand the growth process. I actually have learned to take pleasure in watching the growth and maturation of the younger generations. In fact, it is the forum that gives me the best opportunity for just this activity. I have known the joys of success, and I have endured the pain of failure, and learned as much from one as from the other. I revel in the enthusiasm and boundless energy of youth, and I can celebrate and share the benefits of age. Broke Straight Boys Forum is my new classroom/laboratory for life in all it's myriad forms.

You are correct in your view that we were more active in our posting, more forceful in defending our positions, and more passionate in our beliefs before PC became the "law".
And it seems to me, upon review, that we have lost something of the "Lifeblood" of our cyberhome. Perhaps we can look for a way to express ourselves openly, without assuming deliberate affronts when we disagree with something we read in here.
 
As someone in his very early twenties I do like to engage people of other generations in a good debate. That is how I learn from people. I do not like it when my questions and comments because I am young and do not know what I am talking about. To me that is an excuse being used to say I disagree with you and cannot express my true thoughts or feelings or this kid has got me and I cant let him know it.

I am not pc and probably never will be. I believe that you should say what you feel as long as you are not defaming, hurting or berating someone else because of heir beliefs or feelings.
 
mikeyank, last night I was asked to lead a discussion at a local university on The Beatles. One of the points everyone agreed upon was that they were an inter-generational band, both back in the 1960s and today, and unique in that way. This fact was pretty damn obvious by the ages of the participants in the discussion, which ranged from seven to two women, real Beatles fans, in their 80s. (The seven year old's favorite Beatles' song was Eleanore Rigby.)

I have always worked with young people and now that those days are over, I'm actively working on establishing a new group of young friends. It's an old saw but hanging out with kids keeps me young. Inter-generational works for me, too.

One thing I like about young folks is their directness. In this forum, Phillionaire is a breath of fresh air. I wish there were more Phillionaires here. Yeah, a loud mouth got both Phil and John Lennon in trouble, but that rudeness keeps life real. I'd love to call Paul McCartney a wanker.

This is a fine line. I can remember making the decision in my twenties to stop laughing at nigger jokes and to at the least walk away when one was told. If I had enough guts, I'd tell the joke teller that they weren't funny anymore. I'd never really told that many myself, being raised in an unbiased household. I picked up that they might be OK from my friends. I remember being yelled at by my folks when at a young age I made an anti-Semitic slur. My mom might have even washed my mouth out with soap. I was told in no uncertain terms we didn't talk about races, religions or nationalities that way in this house. And yet my father worked in an industry dominated by Jews and racial stereotypes were sometimes the subject of jokes around the house. I think when we totally deny any differences between the races, which is where were are now as both a society and on this forum, we've lost something important and real. Thirty years ago, I remember seeing Don Rickles live. He insulted people in the grossest, most stereotypical ways and yet, the way he did it, you knew he didn't mean it in a hateful way. Instead you laughed, hysterically. Rent one of Richard Pryor's filmed standups which were turned into movies to see racial humor at its finest. Pryor could do a perfect white guy.

It isn't words that are harmful. It's the hate that's harmful. Sometimes that hate is expressed by using certain words. That should be condemned. But the intent needs to be considered behind language.
 
As someone in his very early twenties I do like to engage people of other generations in a good debate. That is how I learn from people. I do not like it when my questions and comments because I am young and do not know what I am talking about. To me that is an excuse being used to say I disagree with you and cannot express my true thoughts or feelings or this kid has got me and I cant let him know it.

I am not pc and probably never will be. I believe that you should say what you feel as long as you are not defaming, hurting or berating someone else because of heir beliefs or feelings.
I love your attitude lpdude. I admire people who speak their mind, and are not pc. And I enjoy talking to young people, and continue to learn from your generation, and I would never dismiss anything you said by telling you that you don't know what your talking about, The opinion of a 20 year old is just as valuable as the opinion of anyone older.
 
It isn't words that are harmful. It's the hate that's harmful. Sometimes that hate is expressed by using certain words. That should be condemned. But the intent needs to be considered behind language.
You are so right, Smiley on so many of your points, but mentioning the brilliant Don Rickles, as well as Richard Pryor are excellent examples of brilliant comedians. You can also consider Norman Lear's brilliant television comedy "All in the Family".

You're above quote is right on. :thumbup:
 
I love your attitude lpdude. I admire people who speak their mind, and are not pc. And I enjoy talking to young people, and continue to learn from your generation, and I would never dismiss anything you said by telling you that you don't know what your talking about, The opinion of a 20 year old is just as valuable as the opinion of anyone older.

Touche!
 
so heres a question for you guys....what was it like to live through the civil war?
 
well i figured i wouldnt ask you about building the pyramids, since you were slaves, i figured that would be a touchy subject!
 
so heres a question for you guys....what was it like to live through the civil war?

Probably the same as living through some of the "discussions" on this forum.

(*Disclaimer - The above comments are those of someone who is probably off his rocker)
 
But seriously, I remember when I was 19, back in 97, had just come out, and was going to this gay bar at the beach. (Gotta love fake ID's lol) Like most guys my age/generation at the time, over 30=ancient. But I met this 75 year old drag queen and she ended up being a huge influence on my life. Think of every negative sterotype there is about drag queens, and she was the opposite. One of the biggest things she "corrected" was the old=bad complex so many young people, gay men especially, seem to have. Since then I've always enjoyed the company of a wide range of ages. Seeing and hearing different perspectives, and the experiences that shaped those perspectives intrigues me.
 
I love your attitude lpdude. I admire people who speak their mind, and are not pc. And I enjoy talking to young people, and continue to learn from your generation, and I would never dismiss anything you said by telling you that you don't know what your talking about, The opinion of a 20 year old is just as valuable as the opinion of anyone older.

THANK YOU!!!:001_smile:
 
Nothing to do with comedy...........Slimmie and I often discuss, what it was like to be a caveman.:001_tt2::001_tt2::001_tt2:

Speaking of cavemen...
Why did they drag their women by the hair after hitting them with a club instead of dragging them by their feet?:scared:
 
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