Experimenting with other guys when you are young.

[betudidntknow]

I find it so strange.Till I joined Broke Straight Boys never thought of straight guy's or Bi guy's. But I was born in San Francisco.
Out at 16 in the bars by 17.The most beautiful boy's in the world were here and gay. One for every night if you wanted it.I Did.
Three long term relationships all gay. Friends gay. Lot of girl FRIENDS straight. Some of my favorite clients are straight men.
And were friends. Never a problem we hug some of them even kiss. On the cheek.lol. When I first joined Broke Straight Boys there seemed to be more straight guy's.
Now maybe for a very few they all seen gay.( Not Drake) lol But I can dream what I will.
Now at my Old age of 60 I am noticing more very Beautiful Straight Men. Now it's not worth the trouble. Still to many beautiful gay guys around.
Guess I missed out on allot. I am finding Straight guy's more intriguing. But even Broke Straight Boys seems to have
gone gay..Oh Well. Another silly Johnny post.Talk Talk Talk saying nothing....Sorry this had nothing to do with Trevor or Drake. Well Maybe..One Straight??? one Gay man.

I wanted to reply to Johnny's post but, thought it needed it's own thread!

I too experimented with sex, with guys at an early age! I also sought relationships with girls. In my opinion, most every Gay identifying guy is "intrigued" (if you will) with having a sexual encounter with a "Straight" guy! Many different reasons. When I wanted to have a sexual encounter with a guy, it was all about the challenge and excitement to getting that person even if they were straight. When you meet a guy with whom you want to have a meaningful relationship with, romance, dating, sharing precious moments with,...usually it was with someone who also wanted the same thing. Most of the time, those guys were also gay!
Now, depending on the type of relationship one is seeking with a guy,it may or may not be influenced by the type of guy one is attracted to? I don't know. I'm just putting that out there! I remember a thread I started a LONG time ago called: Do you have sex or do you make Love? Many interesting responses to that! Just throwing it out there as something to think about?

 

[betudidntknow]

I just had another thought! During my experimentation with guys who identified as straight (back then) often I discovered, there were things that a guy might enjoy doing or having done to them that, their girlfriends or women they had been with, either wouldn't do, or didn't do in a way that satisfied them sexually that another guy could do.......thus, I too discovered different a sexual fulfillment. Again, it would also depend on the guy! LOL

 

[BSBJohnHenry]

good points betudidntknow!!!!

 

[johnny]

Betu
I think in my case it was different.Until I was 13 or 14 I was a fat little guy that no one wanted to play with.
I new I was different early. I grew up in a very Italian Catholic neighborhood . I wanted to be one of the guy's so bad. But was so FAT..
So had allot of girl friends.I had big crushes on some of the boy's. Everyone knew each other and all
the Family's new each other. So I had to be extra careful not to show that I cared for ONE OF THE GUYS to much.

But I was madly in Love with a kid for years. Never would even touch him. But if you know love at 10 I loved him.Still see him. He got fat.poo hoo Always love him though.Or the memories.

About 15 or 16 I started to grow got thin and started to turn into a fairly good looking boy.

Lucky for me my family moved about 40 miles out of town. Because of School,Part time work and was on a Dance show.A San Francisco version of American Bandstand.. I was able to live with my little Italian Grandmother. Who spoke no English.

At 16 or so walking the Streets going to sleazy movie theaters parks and back alleys..It was still fairly safe in those days.
Started meeting other gay guys.Someone got me a fake ID..Brought me to my first bar. Where there were all these boys.Like Me.
I was in heaven and never looked back.Once I realized I was gay. I loved it.Turned into a real slut.lol

Never left San Francisco except for the beaches Mexico,Hawaii etc. Still here. Everyone came here so I didn't travel far. New York Hollywood so gay.
One of those guy's that loved the sun. Still see some of those kids from my youth. Now I am treated just like one of the guys.
They all know my story ( I been through allot of shit) But when I do see people from the past.
It's always with a hug. Were still here. Funny Story.. I had a GREAT DAD miss him every day still.

He went through allot with me. Or I put him through allot. But he was ALWAYS there for me.
He said ..I always new you were fruit. (that's what they said in those days ) It was OK he loved me.

Your brother and I were watching football. And you were in your room listening to JUDY GARLAND a dead
give away,So you see never turned on to straight guy's till NOW..LOL Long time in between.
Another silly Johnny post...And a long one. Now I have to press submit and get ready to edit..

 

[Spartans987]

so glad you shared your stories BETU and Johnny! so many unique backgrounds and different stories/experiences. I have always considered myself lucky to grow up and experience the bisexual life style yep, I like the best of both worlds...

 

[johnny]

One more thing I did not have time to say before my edit time ran out. There were so many beautiful boy's here.
You didn't have to think of Straight guys. San Francisco was like a big giant candy store..Before AIDS ...

 

[betudidntknow]

What I learned mostly about myself JohnHenry is, even though I still give in to physical attractiveness, I am mostly drawn to peoples! Personalities can make even the most physically attractive person, unattractive... and vice versa... At least for me.

 

[joeychuck2]

I always liked straight guys because I acted like one even though I knew I was gay but it wasn't called that back then. In NYC in the 70's there were so many places to go to have sex. I did it all and found out it was my way to have sex and enjoy it with straight acting men. I was a top then a bottom and mixed. I experimented with everything and enjoyed it all.

 

[johnny]

I always liked straight guys because I acted like one even though I knew I was gay but it wasn't called that back then. In NYC in the 70's there were so many places to go to have sex. I did it all and found out it was my way to have sex and enjoy it with straight acting men. I was a top then a bottom and mixed. I experimented with everything and enjoyed it all.

I think that was a part of it Joey. Back then all my gay friends were just regular guy's.Never thought or acted gay.
So maybe thats why straight guys didn't matter.
Never felt different or ashamed. We were just boy's that liked boy's. Guess I was just lucky.
Then AIDS hit and everybody died that took the fun out of it. For sure.
We are talking 30 years ago though. We were baby's then...

 

[BSBDrakeTyler]

I find it so strange.Till I joined Broke Straight Boys never thought of straight guy's or Bi guy's. But I was born in San Francisco.
Out at 16 in the bars by 17.The most beautiful boy's in the world were here and gay. One for every night if you wanted it.I Did.
Three long term relationships all gay. Friends gay. Lot of girl FRIENDS straight. Some of my favorite clients are straight men.
And were friends. Never a problem we hug some of them even kiss. On the cheek.lol. When I first joined Broke Straight Boys there seemed to be more straight guy's.
Now maybe for a very few they all seen gay.( Not Drake) lol But I can dream what I will.
Now at my Old age of 60 I am noticing more very Beautiful Straight Men. Now it's not worth the trouble. Still to many beautiful gay guys around.
Guess I missed out on allot. I am finding Straight guy's more intriguing. But even Broke Straight Boys seems to have
gone gay..Oh Well. Another silly Johnny post.Talk Talk Talk saying nothing....Sorry this had nothing to do with Trevor or Drake. Well Maybe..One Straight??? one Gay man.

I wanted to reply to Johnny's post but, thought it needed it's own thread!

I too experimented with sex, with guys at an early age! I also sought relationships with girls. In my opinion, most every Gay identifying guy is "intrigued" (if you will) with having a sexual encounter with a "Straight" guy! Many different reasons. When I wanted to have a sexual encounter with a guy, it was all about the challenge and excitement to getting that person even if they were straight. When you meet a guy with whom you want to have a meaningful relationship with, romance, dating, sharing precious moments with,...usually it was with someone who also wanted the same thing. Most of the time, those guys were also gay!
Now, depending on the type of relationship one is seeking with a guy,it may or may not be influenced by the type of guy one is attracted to? I don't know. I'm just putting that out there! I remember a thread I started a LONG time ago called: Do you have sex or do you make Love? Many interesting responses to that! Just throwing it out there as something to think about?

I have noticed that to. But I definitely think Broke Straight Boys is getting a lot better in the past couple months bringing out hott, brand new to porn, Straight guys!

 

[BSBDrakeTyler]

I think that was a part of it Joey. Back then all my gay friends were just regular guy's.Never thought or acted gay.
So maybe thats why straight guys didn't matter.
Never felt different or ashamed. We were just boy's that liked boy's. Guess I was just lucky.
Then AIDS hit and everybody died that took the fun out of it. For sure.
We are talking 30 years ago though. We were baby's then...

AIDS hit then Everybody died?! Yikes
can you explanation that a little bit to me please !

 

[peterh6308]

Masculinity is the first thing that attracts me to someone

 

[johnny]

Masculinity is the first thing that attracts me to someone

No wonder You love me.lol

 

[peterh6308]

No wonder You love me.lol

Right!! lol

 

[tampa24]

AIDS hit then Everybody died?! Yikes
can you explanation that a little bit to me please !

I know that's a tough one to absorb Drake. Starting in the 60's and continuing somewhat into the 70's and early 80's, there was the era of Free Love. The Sexual Liberation Movement, etc. "If it feels good, do it!" While it mostly applied to the straight community, it carried over into the gay community as well.

I came out when I was your age in the mid 80's. It was then that AIDS was really breaking out and seemingly healthy 22-25 y/o guys were suddenly dying of "pneumonia" and other infections that are not normally life threatening. The prime of the country's gay youth and even those of the older generations were dropping like flies. The purple splotches of Kaposi's Sarcoma were on their faces and bodies.

It was horrifying! You just come out and are ready to finally explore sex with the gender you're really attracted to, and then you find out that gay sex could cause you to die a quick and agonizing death. There were no good treatments for it back then. It was 100% fatal. By treating symptoms and trying to knock out some of some of the opportunistic infections, they might be able to prolong your life by a few weeks or months. But not much longer. Just about everyone in the medical establishment was terrified of catching it too. So they would treat the patients like lepers. They would come into hospital wards to treat AIDS patients covered up like they were a hazmat team.

The party and the era of Free Love was definitely over in the 80's. Even in the early 90's I recall a moment when my roommate's boyfriend was leaving our apartment. I cheerfully said goodbye to him and he seemed really down. After he left, I asked my roommate why Bill looked so sad. He said, "He's tired of going to so many funerals." At that point I just nodded and we just gave each other a knowing glance. It's just the way it was back then.

 

[johnny]

I know that's a tough one to absorb Drake. Starting in the 60's and continuing somewhat into the 70's and early 80's, there was the era of Free Love. The Sexual Liberation Movement, etc. "If it feels good, do it!" While it mostly applied to the straight community, it carried over into the gay community as well.

I came out when I was your age in the mid 80's. It was then that AIDS was really breaking out and seemingly healthy 22-25 y/o guys were suddenly dying of "pneumonia" and other infections that are not normally life threatening. The prime of the country's gay youth and even those of the older generations were dropping like flies. The purple splotches of Kaposi's Sarcoma were on their faces and bodies.

It was horrifying! You just come out and are ready to finally explore sex with the gender you're really attracted to, and then you find out that gay sex could cause you to die a quick and agonizing death. There were no good treatments for it back then. It was 100% fatal. By treating symptoms and trying to knock out some of some of the opportunistic infections, they might be able to prolong your life by a few weeks or months. But not much longer. Just about everyone in the medical establishment was terrified of catching it too. So they would treat the patients like lepers. They would come into hospital wards to treat AIDS patients covered up like they were a hazmat team.

The party and the era of Free Love was definitely over in the 80's. Even in the early 90's I recall a moment when my roommate's boyfriend was leaving our apartment. I cheerfully said goodbye to him and he seemed really down. After he left, I asked my roommate why Bill looked so sad. He said, "He's tired of going to so many funerals." At that point I just nodded and we just gave each other a knowing glance. It's just the way it was back then.

Thank You Tampa
It is hard for me to explain anymore. For me everyone I loved. All my friends Died. It was a long time ago.
People say (oh get over it). I never will. I think of them every day. I wonder how my life would have been
if my loved ones had lived?
Were not talking one or two were talking hundreds. Remember I was born in San Francisco.
And I was a popular kid.
So thank you. I can't anymore tell kids what it was like. I have been lucky to have made new friends.
But never the friends like I had. Part of me died then. So thank you for kind of explaining what I meant.
I still dwell on it much too much 30 years later. It IS My Big Problem. Or one of them. Thanks...Johnny

 

[peterh6308]

Why does that asshole Johnny get his own thread?? lol

 

[tampa24]

Why does that asshole Johnny get his own thread?? lol

Because he's special! haha

 

[BSBJohnHenry]

I have noticed that to. But I definitely think Broke Straight Boys is getting a lot better in the past couple months bringing out hott, brand new to porn, Straight guys!

i agree Drake Tyler!

 

[Ambivalent]

I know that's a tough one to absorb Drake. Starting in the 60's and continuing somewhat into the 70's and early 80's, there was the era of Free Love. The Sexual Liberation Movement, etc. "If it feels good, do it!" While it mostly applied to the straight community, it carried over into the gay community as well.

I came out when I was your age in the mid 80's. It was then that AIDS was really breaking out and seemingly healthy 22-25 y/o guys were suddenly dying of "pneumonia" and other infections that are not normally life threatening. The prime of the country's gay youth and even those of the older generations were dropping like flies. The purple splotches of Kaposi's Sarcoma were on their faces and bodies.

It was horrifying! You just come out and are ready to finally explore sex with the gender you're really attracted to, and then you find out that gay sex could cause you to die a quick and agonizing death. There were no good treatments for it back then. It was 100% fatal. By treating symptoms and trying to knock out some of some of the opportunistic infections, they might be able to prolong your life by a few weeks or months. But not much longer. Just about everyone in the medical establishment was terrified of catching it too. So they would treat the patients like lepers. They would come into hospital wards to treat AIDS patients covered up like they were a hazmat team.

The party and the era of Free Love was definitely over in the 80's. Even in the early 90's I recall a moment when my roommate's boyfriend was leaving our apartment. I cheerfully said goodbye to him and he seemed really down. After he left, I asked my roommate why Bill looked so sad. He said, "He's tired of going to so many funerals." At that point I just nodded and we just gave each other a knowing glance. It's just the way it was back then.

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Thank you, Tampa:

As always, you presented this in a thoughtful, and a compassionate way. (XOXOXOXOXO)

Drake, what you ought to know is that, for men of my and Tampa's generation, we were scared to death. Because, for people of our generation, having sex with the wrong person - ONE SMALL MISTAKE - meant that you WOULD DIE.

As HIV and AIDS have become more manageable diseases (thanks to various drugs - though they still cause great difficulty in life, even with the BEST pharmaceutical management): a lot of young guys (both gay and straight) have come to see this disease as "nothing particular to worry about", these days.

It is still something to worry about, Drake. And still something those of us of Tampa's and my age, still worry about, greatly. And not just for ourselves - but for you guys, too.

I am going to send you a documentary, Drake.

"A" XOXOXOXOXO