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Enough of Jimmy's mouth

You're half-right, Larkster--"these sites" are about arousal, but creating fantasy is for the pro porn star sites. The name of this site is "Broke Straight Boys". If that is the case, why would we want them to be anything other than what they are? We watch this site to see Broke Straight Boys have sex with each other because they get paid for it (to relieve their 'brokeness'). If someone wants to see supposed straight boys really enjoy themselves having sex with other guys, watch another site, which I really like, called Sean Cody. But here, the whole premise is straight guys desperate for cash willing to settle for sex with dudes, JUST FOR THE MONEY. Nobody is saying anything about a documentary!

Would you really want a site where all the straight boys showed no sexual interest in each other, received no pleasure, and were very limited in what they were willing to do with another guy? That could get pretty boring. Of course there is an element of fantasy. We expect a certain amount willingness to explore, and we expect honest responses from the models. Do you think a guy can put his dick in a tight hot hole and fuck it and not get any pleasure? Yeah, it can hurt to get fucked, but do you think a straight guy having his prostate rubbed over and over again receives no pleasure? Or having a warm mouth and lips sucking his cock or ass. I think the pretend part is to deny that there was any pleasure. Liking having a gay experience does not mean you are not straight. It means you're human. I know these guys aren't going to turn gay from being on Broke Straight Boys, and if they really find it is so unpleasant and distasteful, I don't think there is enough money in the Broke Straight Boys coffers to get them to stay. So models, let the inner animal out and let us share what you are feeling. That's what we came to experience with you. :w00t::thumbup:
 
Would you really want a site where all the straight boys showed no sexual interest in each other, received no pleasure, and were very limited in what they were willing to do with another guy? That could get pretty boring. Of course there is an element of fantasy. We expect a certain amount willingness to explore, and we expect honest responses from the models.

I think the pretend part is to deny that there was any pleasure. Liking having a gay experience does not mean you are not straight. It means you're human. I know these guys aren't going to turn gay from being on Broke Straight Boys, and if they really find it is so unpleasant and distasteful, I don't think there is enough money in the Broke Straight Boys coffers to get them to stay. So models, let the inner animal out and let us share what you are feeling. That's what we came to experience with you. :w00t::thumbup:

Good points Larkster. I agree.
 
Hey Jimmy,

I had avoided posting on this thread because of the title. But I see that you are looking it over. I do urge you though to check out other threads of your work besides just the ones with the most provocative titles. For instance you spent so long one day responding to so many negative comments and you missed the whole thread on your scene with Anthony that was mostly full of praise for you. These threads may have slipped off the current listing of the day, but they are still easily found by searching the "Membership Site Chat, Comments and Suggestions" listing.

While I thought the criticism on this thread was a little over the top at times, since you are monitoring this thread I will reply here. This scene suffered the same problem as the scene you did with Jamie a while back. In your scene with Jamie that aired on May 5, 2011 you did the same thing. That scene from May has a rating of 2.75. I told you in the thread for that scene back then why it ruined the scene and made viewers "mad" at you.

I get that you and Jamie have a joking relationship and that you like to give him a hard time. But that needs to stay off camera as much as possible. I'll repeat some of the points that I made way back then. Viewers watch a scene hoping to get an orgasm. At the very least though they hope the video will give them some entertainment and maybe a hardon. If you are purposely making constant wisecracks to Jamie (or any other model) in hopes of preventing him from getting a hardon...then you are succeeding in doing that to viewers also. The viewers (male or female) aren't going to get aroused either with all the wisecracks that annoy Jamie and keep him soft.

When you do this you waste the viewers' time and money. They want to throw a sock at their computer monitors and they get "mad" at you. You also waste Clay's time when you do this and you waste the time of all the other people in production who work to put these videos out. This is a pay-per-view business. Every member of the site, whether they post in the forum or not, has to pay for the privilege of seeing every vid. And as we've already discussed, the money of the members is what pays all the salaries and bills in here.
 
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To be fair I think is should be a flip flop. You don't want to loose you title of "power bottom" to Jimmy. lol:w00t:
 
Jimmy, you are doing everything you should. I very much appreciate how you check to make sure the model you a working with is ok. I think you are a very nice and sensitive person. Best wishes.
 
you seem very articulate and well educated so could you please explain to me how LANGUAGE is offensive but the idea of paying a young man who has financial hardship MONEY to have SEX with MEN??? seriously just think about it...suck my fucking dick whore cunt bitch is offensive but a young man who is having sex with another man for money isnt offensive? It blows my mind real life MEN like yourself are offended by my WORDs but not offended by the overall premise of the site...
I read all of Jimmy's posts yesterday and last night, but this is the one that stuck with me, and I decided to comment on it today. I agree 100% with Jimmy, that the whole concept of this site would probably be considered "offensive" by at least 95% of the population. If this site was truly what it was promoted to be from David's earliest videos, of tricking straight boys into gay sex, with the promise of bringing girls onto the set, and an opportunity to work on their sister site of "Broke Straight Girls", if they would suck some cock here first, just because the girls want to see what they look like on camera. And of course, David often said that this video was just for his own private collection, and no one else would ever see it. He also would often have two "straight" guys film their audition tape together, (to save time), and told them that they would not have to touch each other, but simply to jack off side by side. And then he would offer more and more money to get them to do more and more.

I never really bought into all of that banter that was created to provide the illusion that these are really innocent straight guys, who were desparate to make some money, but that concept is certainly taking advantage of someone who is down on their luck.

But if a model who is or represents what a true straight guy acts like, then member's are "offended" by the language. That to me is highly hypocritical. That is why I completely agree with Jimmy's statement

"It blows my mind real life MEN like yourself are offended by my WORDs but not offended by the overall premise of the site..."

To me it is all a fantasy, and no model goes into this profession without an understanding of exactly what is really happening. I am not offended by the concept, and in no way am I offended by the language that straight young men use.
 
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With all due respect

you seem very articulate and well educated so could you please explain to me how LANGUAGE is offensive but the idea of paying a young man who has financial hardship MONEY to have SEX with MEN??? seriously just think about it...suck my fucking dick whore cunt bitch is offensive but a young man who is having sex with another man for money isnt offensive? It blows my mind real life MEN like yourself are offended by my WORDs but not offended by the overall premise of the site...

Dear Jimmy,

Using rough locker-room language is either a coverup for "feelings of personal inadequacy" by overcompensating with uncivil language around your peers "to fit in" OR it is deliberate to be offensive and demean others around you. That is basically a "character flaw", as it shows little respect for your audience or those with whom you are interacting. I don't personally care if someone uses whatever language in the privacy of their own home, unless others are also present to hear it. This locker-room language is both abusive and keeps people at bay, a kind of verbal defense system of sorts. Why would anyone choose this language when one could just as easily choose to be polite and non-threatening. Being "Macho for its own sake" went out of fashion along with bellbottom pants, platform shoes, and leisure suits of the 70's. The use of coarse expressions like you use is intended to put others down and keep them down. This kind of language is used by bullies, too! After all, we do have women on this site and we have many others that have been bullied in the past on this site, too. They were bullied primarily because of being suspected as "GAY" many times before they knew what "Gay" was! Statistically, school age kids appearing to have gay characteristics have a much higher rate of bullying and the resultiing suicides than their counterparts--Straight kids. Your conscious choice of vocabulary just further reinforces unpleasant negative experiences they suffered from the past by bullies, whether it is your personal intention at the time spoken or not! Simply stated, you may think joking around as you do makes up for this negativity, but really in the long-run it doesn't and you have set yourself up to "not fit in" should better work opportunities become available to you. In general, no workplace today wants "foulmouthed employees trashing the workplace environment with their inappropriate language" in such a negative way! I say this, not as some "Jimmy hater" but, rather as brotherly advice..."adult responsibilities require us all to eventually grow up sooner or later". People allowing you to remain using this disrespectful kind of language are only holding you back! Respectfully, I would much rather you advance to your fullest potential as an adult, not implying anything sexually by this statement!

As far as..."the idea of paying a young man who has financial hardship MONEY to have SEX with MEN??? seriously just think about it...suck my fucking dick whore cunt bitch is offensive but a young man who is having sex with another man for money isnt offensive? It blows my mind real life MEN like yourself are offended by my WORDs but not offended by the overall premise of the site." Jimmy you said a mouthful and to a large extent I have to agree with you!!!! I, too, dislike the premise of this site, but I never joined this site in the first place with this in my mind. The title of the "site" is meaningless to me, while I realize its appeal for others. No, I don't enjoy the thought of anyone ever being "victimized" or otherwise having to compromise themself by "submitting to sex with other men" only for economic hardship or monetary reasons. I fail to see the victory in taking advantage of anyone when they are down!

Our legal system, thanks to Pres. Richard Nixon, has come to consider anyone age 18 and over to be an adult. Consequently, I consider Broke Straight Boys models all comply with this requirement and are not appearing here "under duress". In other words, they voluntarily agreed as an adult to these contractual agreements and requirements by their "free choice", just like anyone entering the armed forces agrees to risking their own life through potential combat duty. Obviously, all models are going to be compensated financially, otherwise this would be "sex-slavery". Every job in the workplace has some elements that are frequently unpleasant or even much worse, otherwise it wouldn't be defined as "WORK". No one in life gets a free ride as distasteful duties and obligations will naturally follow! Fortunately, you had the privilege to know "up-front" exactly, chosing to do gay porn at a higher rate than straight porn) what would be expected of you as a Broke Straight Boys model. This was not something kept as a secret from you. Countless workers nationwide have been subjected to intimidation by their superiors and faced the forced choice of choosing from either quitting their job with its financial consequences or have fallen into a position of submission to whatever whelm the boss expects just to hold on their job or to advance upward! No one made this choice for you but Jimmy and, possibly, your circumstances!

You accepted the terms of the Broke Straight Boys contract prior to ever appearing and accepted to abide by the directions assigned to you. This tells me that you were given the choice to accept or decline and probably could still back out at any time, just like Colin during your anal assault. Surely, I understand economic hardship personally and I know people with Masters Degrees, Engineers, and other highly educated professionals working for only $8.00 per hour, due to downsizing or the downturn of the economy, just to maintain some small trickle of income coming in to get by temporarily. After all these are some of the hardest times our nation has had in decades, and not just for you. I agree these are not really living wages but these people had to settle for a job, any job, at much below their former income level and training rather than living on the streets or worse.

But I reiterate and agree with you essentially, I hate the premise of this site and that is why I have always objected to Clay's and, earlier on, David's flashing cash under the noses of the models. In my opinion, this shows gross disrespect to the model and is the same by implication as calling them as a "slut" and a "whore". No, I do not view Broke Straight Boys models as either. I feel that, just like girls choose to be escorts in order to pay for their college education, any model appearing on Broke Straight Boys has come to this choice of making themself available sexualy for pay with other men. Today, we have mothers who need to take care of their children but, instead, must place them in day care in order to have an income, regardless of how good it is for their own children. Whether any Broke Straight Boys model is honestly financially needy or not, or just the script they were given, members have no objective way of determining who is "really desperate" or not.

LIFE IS FULL OF TOUGH CHOICES AND COMPROMISES THAT MOST PEOPLE REALLY PREFER NOT TO MAKE, IF WE LIVED IN A PERFECT WORLD!

First, I say make peace with yourself and then the world around you, but don't blame others for your informed choices made as an adult.

Best of luck to you Jimmy!


Sincerely


Stimpy
 
I agree with much of what you wrote, but I don't consider myself to be a hypocrit!

I read all of Jimmy's posts yesterday and last night, but this is the one that stuck with me, and I decided to comment on it today. I agree 100% with Jimmy, that the whole concept of this site would probably be considered "offensive" by at least 95% of the population. If this site was truly what it was promoted to be from David's earliest videos, of tricking straight boys into gay sex, with the promise of bringing girls onto the set, and an opportunity to work on their sister site of "Broke Straight Girls", if they would suck some cock here first, just because the girls want to see what they look like on camera. And of course, David often said that this video was just for his own private collection, and no one else would ever see it. He also would often have two "straight" guys film their audition tape together, (to save time), and told them that they would not have to touch each other, but simply to jack off side by side. And then he would offer more and more money to get them to do more and more.

I never really bought into all of that banter that was created to provide the illusion that these are really innocent straight guys, who were desparate to make some money, but that concept is certainly taking advantage of someone who is down on their luck.

But if a model who is or represents what a true straight guy acts like, then member's are "offended" by the language. That to me is highly hypocritical. That is why I completely agree with Jimmy's statement

"It blows my mind real life MEN like yourself are offended by my WORDs but not offended by the overall premise of the site..."

To me it is all a fantasy, and no model goes into this profession without an understanding of exactly what is really happening. I am not offended by the concept, and in no way am I offended by the language that straight young men use.

Dear Mikeyank,

As I just moments ago posted my response to a comment I made concerning Jimmy, I just felt I had to reply. As I take my time in coming up with many revisions, I just got my response posted and had started long before you made your last post. This is not meant to contradict your previous post, as it was unknown to me prior to posting on the forum.

From day one back in March 2010 when I first joined, you have offered comments stating this should not be confused with reality indicating you have a very different take on this site than I. That is perfectly fine for you, but it is not now nor will it ever be my perspective. You might be 100% correct and I might be totally wrong. But the differences still remain in our views.

I would appreciate you taking the time to reading my prior comments above, as they have been given respectfully to Jimmy and not intended to be inflamatory in nature. I recognize all of the examples of misrepresentation made by David in the past and I found them regrettable and inappropriate at the time, too. Concerning the offensive language, i would be equally offended regardless if the model was Gay or Straight. It is what it is, whether fantasy or not.

I really thought a great deal about my earlier response and, meaning no disrespect to you and your opposing view, or Jimmy. I felt duty bound to express my concerns raised by Jimmy himself.


Respectfully,


Stimpy
 
Jimmy, you are doing everything you should. I very much appreciate how you check to make sure the model you a working with is ok. I think you are a very nice and sensitive person. Best wishes.

thank you cum2mw
 
Dear Jimmy,

Using rough locker-room language is either a coverup for "feelings of personal inadequacy" by overcompensating with uncivil language around your peers "to fit in" OR it is deliberate to be offensive and demean others around you. That is basically a "character flaw", as it shows little respect for your audience or those with whom you are interacting. I don't personally care if someone uses whatever language in the privacy of their own home, unless others are also present to hear it. This locker-room language is both abusive and keeps people at bay, a kind of verbal defense system of sorts. Why would anyone choose this language when one could just as easily choose to be polite and non-threatening. Being "Macho for its own sake" went out of fashion along with bellbottom pants, platform shoes, and leisure suits of the 70's. The use of coarse expressions like you use is intended to put others down and keep them down. This kind of language is used by bullies, too! After all, we do have women on this site and we have many others that have been bullied in the past on this site, too. They were bullied primarily because of being suspected as "GAY" many times before they knew what "Gay" was! Statistically, school age kids appearing to have gay characteristics have a much higher rate of bullying and the resultiing suicides than their counterparts--Straight kids. Your conscious choice of vocabulary just further reinforces unpleasant negative experiences they suffered from the past by bullies, whether it is your personal intention at the time spoken or not! Simply stated, you may think joking around as you do makes up for this negativity, but really in the long-run it doesn't and you have set yourself up to "not fit in" should better work opportunities become available to you. In general, no workplace today wants "foulmouthed employees trashing the workplace environment with their inappropriate language" in such a negative way! I say this, not as some "Jimmy hater" but, rather as brotherly advice..."adult responsibilities require us all to eventually grow up sooner or later". People allowing you to remain using this disrespectful kind of language are only holding you back! Respectfully, I would much rather you advance to your fullest potential as an adult, not implying anything sexually by this statement!

As far as..."the idea of paying a young man who has financial hardship MONEY to have SEX with MEN??? seriously just think about it...suck my fucking dick whore cunt bitch is offensive but a young man who is having sex with another man for money isnt offensive? It blows my mind real life MEN like yourself are offended by my WORDs but not offended by the overall premise of the site." Jimmy you said a mouthful and to a large extent I have to agree with you!!!! I, too, dislike the premise of this site, but I never joined this site in the first place with this in my mind. The title of the "site" is meaningless to me, while I realize its appeal for others. No, I don't enjoy the thought of anyone ever being "victimized" or otherwise having to compromise themself by "submitting to sex with other men" only for economic hardship or monetary reasons. I fail to see the victory in taking advantage of anyone when they are down!

Our legal system, thanks to Pres. Richard Nixon, has come to consider anyone age 18 and over to be an adult. Consequently, I consider Broke Straight Boys models all comply with this requirement and are not appearing here "under duress". In other words, they voluntarily agreed as an adult to these contractual agreements and requirements by their "free choice", just like anyone entering the armed forces agrees to risking their own life through potential combat duty. Obviously, all models are going to be compensated financially, otherwise this would be "sex-slavery". Every job in the workplace has some elements that are frequently unpleasant or even much worse, otherwise it wouldn't be defined as "WORK". No one in life gets a free ride as distasteful duties and obligations will naturally follow! Fortunately, you had the privilege to know "up-front" exactly, chosing to do gay porn at a higher rate than straight porn) what would be expected of you as a Broke Straight Boys model. This was not something kept as a secret from you. Countless workers nationwide have been subjected to intimidation by their superiors and faced the forced choice of choosing from either quitting their job with its financial consequences or have fallen into a position of submission to whatever whelm the boss expects just to hold on their job or to advance upward! No one made this choice for you but Jimmy and, possibly, your circumstances!

You accepted the terms of the Broke Straight Boys contract prior to ever appearing and accepted to abide by the directions assigned to you. This tells me that you were given the choice to accept or decline and probably could still back out at any time, just like Colin during your anal assault. Surely, I understand economic hardship personally and I know people with Masters Degrees, Engineers, and other highly educated professionals working for only $8.00 per hour, due to downsizing or the downturn of the economy, just to maintain some small trickle of income coming in to get by temporarily. After all these are some of the hardest times our nation has had in decades, and not just for you. I agree these are not really living wages but these people had to settle for a job, any job, at much below their former income level and training rather than living on the streets or worse.

But I reiterate and agree with you essentially, I hate the premise of this site and that is why I have always objected to Clay's and, earlier on, David's flashing cash under the noses of the models. In my opinion, this shows gross disrespect to the model and is the same by implication as calling them as a "slut" and a "whore". No, I do not view Broke Straight Boys models as either. I feel that, just like girls choose to be escorts in order to pay for their college education, any model appearing on Broke Straight Boys has come to this choice of making themself available sexualy for pay with other men. Today, we have mothers who need to take care of their children but, instead, must place them in day care in order to have an income, regardless of how good it is for their own children. Whether any Broke Straight Boys model is honestly financially needy or not, or just the script they were given, members have no objective way of determining who is "really desperate" or not.

LIFE IS FULL OF TOUGH CHOICES AND COMPROMISES THAT MOST PEOPLE REALLY PREFER NOT TO MAKE, IF WE LIVED IN A PERFECT WORLD!

First, I say make peace with yourself and then the world around you, but don't blame others for your informed choices made as an adult.

Best of luck to you Jimmy!


Sincerely


Stimpy

thank you for the luck but il have to get back to this post another time its just way to much to read at the moment...
 
I was blown away when I realized this site actually allowed for open conversation with the models. This thread is an example of why. If I were Jimmy my head would be reeling from all this feedback. I would have said, "Fuck it! I quit." Jimmy should get some credit for trying to parse all of this sometime contradictory advice. So kudos to you, Jimmy for making an intellectual effort. Now lets see a little sexual effort. LOL
 
Jimmy...and what some have refered to the "many" fans of yours.. I just noticed the site's home page.. have you noticed that NONE of your vids are listed under the "members' favorites"?.. Does that not tell you something??.. That either your "many" fans do not bother to rate your vids highly.. or...those who do rate your vids are not too impressed...ever wonder why?.. BTW.. do you not think that it is best that the director advise the other models if they are "doing it right" or not?? or have you been offered a director's intership???
 
It is annoying to me that people feel free to criticize Jimmy's supposed inadequacies and psychoanalyze him when they have never met him nor have any in depth contact with him. As I have said before, I have met young men who behaved as Jimmy does and this is the nature of straight young men who may or may not engage in sexual activity with other men for cash. Different young men behave differently depending on a wide range of reasons and attempts to pigeon hole a person based upon a narrow definition of human behavior is absurd and contrary to reality.

In addition as far as the people who criticize the premise of this website yet subscribe to it, just what are you doing here? If I object to something and there are some things I do not care to view, I would not subscribe to a website that provides that service. This website is not "straight acting gay men who pretend to be straight men engaging in gay sex" although there may be some models who are bisexual, questioning or even gay who do appear here.

In addition those who provide scathing personal attacks on Jimmy's behavior and speaking while using extremely rude language to do so are just being silly. It is possible to say what you mean without doing so.

There are a number of models who appear here. I enjoy virtually all of them for the individuals they are. This includes Jimmy. If I defend him when others attack him, I try to express my opinion without engaging in specific personal attacks on the person criticizing him but I may not always be successful. But if I don't care for a model or his performance I may mention it but generally I just move on to another model I prefer. With regard to Jimmy there are plenty of people here who do like him and there are those who do not. If you don't and have said your piece well ok, move on and get on with your life.
 
It is annoying to me that people feel free to criticize Jimmy's supposed inadequacies and psychoanalyze him when they have never met him nor have any in depth contact with him. As I have said before, I have met young men who behaved as Jimmy does and this is the nature of straight young men who may or may not engage in sexual activity with other men for cash. Different young men behave differently depending on a wide range of reasons and attempts to pigeon hole a person based upon a narrow definition of human behavior is absurd and contrary to reality.

In addition as far as the people who criticize the premise of this website yet subscribe to it, just what are you doing here? If I object to something and there are some things I do not care to view, I would not subscribe to a website that provides that service. This website is not "straight acting gay men who pretend to be straight men engaging in gay sex" although there may be some models who are bisexual, questioning or even gay who do appear here.

In addition those who provide scathing personal attacks on Jimmy's behavior and speaking while using extremely rude language to do so are just being silly. It is possible to say what you mean without doing so.

There are a number of models who appear here. I enjoy virtually all of them for the individuals they are. This includes Jimmy. If I defend him when others attack him, I try to express my opinion without engaging in specific personal attacks on the person criticizing him but I may not always be successful. But if I don't care for a model or his performance I may mention it but generally I just move on to another model I prefer. With regard to Jimmy there are plenty of people here who do like him and there are those who do not. If you don't and have said your piece well ok, move on and get on with your life.

A-Men Juanjo!
 
well slim i think they might be pulling some strings to make that happen...i HOPE so i never get tired of hangin out with...

All I can say is that it would be very terrific to see you two straighties together. We've all pretty much accepted that you don't like what you have to do to make the money you make doing this stuff, but to see the two of you in a scene together would be a total game changer. You would be with a person you have a genuine affection for, someone who's showed himself to be your very true friend, knows you really well from the tours, and likes you tremendously. Man, it would be almost like love!!! I tell ya dude, it would be a huge thing for this site to see you two paired up, in more ways than one.
 
What's it gonna be? War or Peace?

thank you for the luck but il have to get back to this post another time its just way to much to read at the moment...

Dear Jimmy,

Thanks for your honest and courteous response. Others have chimed in already, since I first wrote to you. Even so, I still look forward to further discussions on this topic or any other you may choose. You have my word I will remain respectful throughout!

I realize my posts are lengthy and may not be exactly what you wanted to read, like a shortened version of "War & Peace". Certainly, it isn't like some sports page filled with articles and a bunch of statistics on your favorite team. But I invest a great deal personally into each and every writing. They can offer the possibility for a broader understanding of yourself, if you choose. I am open to your personal views of me as well and my reasons for being here in the first place, as well. I don't get offended easily having spent some 36 years working personally on a daily basis with thousands of young people over my career regardless of race or cultural influences, financial background, jock or not, or sexual orientation.

You certainly are free to view me as a hypocrit, if that is what rocks your boat. I only know sometimes we ALL need to take a look at ourself or others removed from one's preconceived perspectives, knowing their new ideas gained, at the very least, may only offer some added dimension to who you and/or I say we really are OR it can have a significant impact. Whatever the outcome, I am willing if you are willing. As independent men, no one needs a bunch of "YES MEN" following along "powdering our noses with the status quo", like some super star's entourage. After all this can be mostly fluff. They can only add very little new to one's current understanding on who they really are.

I leave this "one-time offer" with YOU, JIMMY, to do as you please! Tell me what you think of this offer and, if you so decide, either I may never bother you again or we may become best of pals, just like Mikeyank and you. I leave it entirely up to you!


Sincerely,


Stimpy
 
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