David, Mark, Help

[rifle]

I wish I could say that the forum has always been thoughtful and responsible, but, unfortunately, we have not. Quite often we speak before we think and think with more than our brains. Through various combinations of love and lust and guilt and shock, we've delved deeply into poor Dustin's death and shared way more than our memories and sadness and anger over his passing. In the process we seem to have forgotten that it's only been a few days ago that personal information about the models at D & E put some of them in some really uncomfortable situations. Now, in our new found access to Dustin's story, we're posting keys to his life that may inadvertently open doors to others'. And, in their grief, some of the models have let their guards down a little and this is not the time to take advantage of them or to expose them to future harrassment. Please encourage members to think before they post links or articles or information.

 

[dande01]

I replied to the post that you are referring to. I anticipated this was going to happen.

 

[tampa24]

Agreed. The anonymity and privacy of the models still needs to be protected for their own safety and peace of mind.

 

[joninliverton]

Agreed. The anonymity and privacy of the models still needs to be protected for their own safety and peace of mind.

As does the anonymity and privacy of the forum members.

 

[Jayman01]

I wish I could say that the forum has always been thoughtful and responsible, but, unfortunately, we have not. Quite often we speak before we think and think with more than our brains. Through various combinations of love and lust and guilt and shock, we've delved deeply into poor Dustin's death and shared way more than our memories and sadness and anger over his passing. In the process we seem to have forgotten that it's only been a few days ago that personal information about the models at D & E put some of them in some really uncomfortable situations. Now, in our new found access to Dustin's story, we're posting keys to his life that may inadvertently open doors to others'. And, in their grief, some of the models have let their guards down a little and this is not the time to take advantage of them or to expose them to future harrassment. Please encourage members to think before they post links or articles or information.

Thanks Rifle. I am glad you helped bring this to all of our attention. The models should be as protected as they can be.

 

[dande01]

I agree...but under the circumstances....one of our members was eventually going to see Dustin/Andrew and figure it out anyways. Regardless. I decided to at least give you guys the 1st notice out of respect to our members. I know its not the norm to give out the models real name...but eventually a member would have seen it.

Its posted on all the gay blogs, porn news and on JustUsBoys site and a member of Broke Straight Boys will see it and know right away that Dustin is Andrew and what happen. I rather you, as members, know first hand the situation so you don't get swept away in some crazy drama stories and assumption. Many will come out of the wood-work claiming all kinds of crazy shit and I guess that is the norm when someone dies, especially a person that was in the public eye may it be mainstream or gaystream...but we knew Andrew/Dustin very well when he filmed with our studio and we like to keep the truth and his integrity alive.

 

[LesterM]

I honor your concern, David I hope that you find comfort in the fact that so many people on this site are deeply affected by this. What difference does it make at this point if his real name is known or if the fact that his partner has expressed his love and loss I thought it was a beautiful statement and I hope everyone takes the time that is needed to moarn this untimely passing

 

[tampa24]

I don't fault David at all for giving us Andrew's name. I'm very glad (and grateful) that we heard it from him first.

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

It's all over the news and on the internet with his real name etc. that is why we decided to post this on the board and inform the members. Better to inform you guys because it was going to end up on the Broke Straight Boys board for sure anyway.

Mark

 

[rifle]

I wish I could say that the forum has always been thoughtful and responsible, but, unfortunately, we have not. Quite often we speak before we think and think with more than our brains. Through various combinations of love and lust and guilt and shock, we've delved deeply into poor Dustin's death and shared way more than our memories and sadness and anger over his passing. In the process we seem to have forgotten that it's only been a few days ago that personal information about the models at D & E put some of them in some really uncomfortable situations. Now, in our new found access to Dustin's story, we're posting keys to his life that may inadvertently open doors to others'. And, in their grief, some of the models have let their guards down a little and this is not the time to take advantage of them or to expose them to future harrassment. Please encourage members to think before they post links or articles or information.

I guess what I needed to do was draw a picture. Obviously everyone knew Andrew's real name, it was in the headlines. However, in quick succession, I read four articles and links and recognized the real names of five models. In one case I even recognized a personal email address.

One of the things that pisses me off most about the business of adult entertainment is the idea that develops among its customers that they own the performers. None of us do any more than we owned John Wayne or Brad Pitt. We own viewing rights to certain performances and that's it. Their private lives are their own and they choose with whom they share them. I feel honored to be invited to visit a personal page or share a note with them, but I don't go there uninvited any more than I would break into their bedroom or peak into their shower. And neither should you. And the information I might see there is not mine to use as I see fit. It's theirs.

And while I'm on my soapbox let me tell you this: don't assume anything. Not all the facts are available anywhere yet. No matter how you feel about Dustin, the Panama City police, the showing of the video, tasering, or any of the dozen or so sites he worked for in the last two years, no one has sufficient information to reach a conclusion or even to consider a conclusion, and when the time comes to pursue any outcome, that decision will rest with his family and legally gathered, legally obtained evidence. John Gay, the seventeenth century playwright said, "Pride is increased by ignorance; those assume the most who know the least."

Now, since 45% of you are mad at me anyway (last time it was 90% - I'm improving) and 10% of you want to know the real names (forget it, pigs will get wings) and 45% wish I'd just shut up and go away (. . . . . . .congratulations - you're the lucky winners. . . . .