Cameraman is a distraction

[joninliverton]

I agree with you wholeheartedly about this. Sometimes the banter in the beginning can be funny, if you have the right models. But I almost never find David himself all that funny and I'm not interested in listening to them barter about the price, so nine times out of ten I just go straight to the sex. It can be very annoying when you're trying to watch a hot scene and David keeps interjecting. Like with the recent Scott/Tyler scene. Scott's giving a great blowjob and David's joking about underwear. It was like, damn dude quiet down. I don't care. But I will give David credit because generally when the scene is really hot and the models know what they're doing his input is minimal. After the initial intro he says nothing during the Shane/Josh scene and I enjoyed that. He says very little during Diesal/Jimmie(1 & 2.) So he knows when to shut up. Only sometimes he forgets himself. And the hand in pants thing doesn't happen very often. It kind of skeeves me out too, but I just go past it. From recent scenes like Diesal/JC by the pool it seems the site might by branching out a little.

Stacey

Well put Stacey. I have posted on record that I thought the underwear banter went on too long and spoilt the Scott/Tyler scene. And since page 1 of this thread, a lot of people have come out to support LoganBroad on some of his issues. I am glad of this because it makes good debate and has probably brought this subject to the fore which otherwise would have been simmering under the surface.

So therefore I retract my statement about going to another restaurant but it would be nice if you did comment on what you actually liked about the site. Good critics are those who state the positive and negative points of a debate.

 

[slimvintage]

Logan, I think David and Eddie are in this business mostly because of the boys. With them it's not just a way to make a buck and when they've shot the last scene of the day they each get into their SUVs and go home to Moira or Bets, their pretty wives, and two of the cutest kids on the block. They live Broke Straight Boys 24/7. Their home is set up to house them, their kitchen is the canteen, their pool is where the brokies get wet and have a splash. They even do lights out.


But if you didn't know any of that you might be excused for finding the intervention in the scenes of this verbally klutzy, sometimes inopportune and occasionally noisy gay bear a real turn off. People with sexual fetishes are funny about them. Dave's business is providing outlets for fetishists, visual material to help them obtain sexual release. If you like to witness a hot impecunious heterosexual young guy have to submit pretty much against his will to some kind of sex with another guy like him, just to make a buck, I can see why some of Dave's antics would get in the way for you.

David is sometimes his own worst enemy. Sometimes a perfect triumph of a video happens almost despite him. Sometimes something he's got well under control falls flat. He used to drive me mad, the way your best friend can, and I was on the forum all the time taking the piss and chortling at how corny and klutzy he can be at times. When that hand snaked out from behind the cam the first time I was appalled. It was the quickest de-boning this chickenhawk ever suffered. But I've got used to it and accept that he has the right. Anyway I love him.

Think of it this way: for every complaint he gets on here he probably has 3 e-mails off-forum begging him to get his kit off and move into the scene with the brokies. Go figure.

 

[mikeyank]

Personally I really like the chit-chat. Getting to know the personalities involved is what keeps me coming back to the site. When all you see is sex in a video it isn't as memorable in my opinion. Just a preference I guess, but that's the type of video I'm mostly drawn to. It just seems hotter because I feel like I'm watching a real situation.

It doesn't bother me when David interrupts. Actually I like it because it reminds me that there's someone else in the room, which is turn on. Maybe it's a voyeur/exhibitionist fetish, but to see people watching is really hot to me.

Well stated, toddo. That's how I feel too. I've been basically turned off by traditional porn, and actually had stopped renting porn and never buying it anymore, until I found this site. Typically, I read written accounts of real or apparently real situations to get off to.

Being a huge fan of real folks in situations that I perceive to be real, Broke Straight Boys is my ideal site. And without the introductory banter, and the occasional comments during the scenes, Broke Straight Boys would be like all of the other porn sites and companies out there.

Please David & Mark, don't change the basic format that has made this site as popular as it is. I'm a voyeur and I love sitting in "the virtual corner" of David's studio watching him interview, seduce and film the "straighties" do their thing. This site makes me feel like I'm getting to see typical everyday guys that I see on the streets, the basketball courts, the gym, and the beach, doing what I can only fantasize seeing in real life.

Broke Straight Boys Rules!!!

 

[mewithei69]

solution

if you dont like dave talking turn off your volume, put some stupid music on and enjoy the freakin site.. its so sad that you guys are complaining about porn. if you really that angry about such a minor thing, seriously, go somewhere else. They don't have to continue Broke Straight Boys, they choose to, and rather than being ungrateful...be grateful.

 

[another1]

i don't know david. have never tried to contact him. have read comments about him and by him. i know his spelling is as bad as mine, so we have that in common.
as a voyeur and generally curious guy, i enjoy what is described as corny and distracting banter.
as someone who can detect a bear fart in a storm, when i see something i think should be changed, i let mark know directly or post my thoughts and concerns to this forum.
in some circles, we call the person behind the camera, the director.
in my mind's eye, i am also behind the camera. i am always, wondering, 'could i do that or do that better.' until i decide to try, i will live with the banter. i will also enjoy the hot models.
just my thoughts on a topic that has been run around the block, a few times.

 

[tampa24]

I so agree with you on all of this Mike. It's the fact that Broke Straight Boys is so quirky and untraditional in its format that makes it so appealing to me. You can never be sure where a scene is going to go. It's not nearly as predictable as other sites.

Alot of that is because of David's personality. The banter before the scenes can go in directions that none of the participants intended or expected. Those are some of both the joys and pitfalls of reality porn. Sometimes the unexpected answer to a seemingly inane question or comment will give us a valuable insight into a model's life or personality. Sometimes an inopportune question, comment, (or action) can bring down a scene for some of us. Just as in life, it is a mixed bag.

David's personality will not be everyone's cup of tea. That's neither good nor bad. It just is. Again, it's just as in real life with all the other people we interact with on a regular basis. Some people we will like alot, some we won't...and some we'll be ambivalent towards. However there is no denying that David (and Eddie) have struck upon a winning formula that garners wide commercial appeal. David gets results and delivers the goods.

Obviously for my part I became a fan of David's a long time ago. He won me over because although he may appear to be klutzy and doing everything off the cuff, and flying by the seat of his pants...he gets the job done. David's fumbling demeanor disarms the models to where they trust him. To the point that they will do most anything he asks. In spite of all the alarm bells going off in their pretty little straight heads. LOL At the end of some of their scenes you can see models who sit there perplexed. As if you can almost read their thoughts. They're thinking, "How in the world did I agree to do all that? I said I wouldn't go that far. Never! And then I just did. WTF??"

He reminds me a bit of the Lt. Columbo detective character from TV. The seemingly clumsy, klutzy guy who walked around in the trench coat looking unkempt and bewildered. Driving an ancient car and appearing to be in way over his head. A guy who seemed rather clueless at times. Purposely using small words and pretending to be so forgetful about anything and everything. LOL All the while of course in his very keen mind he was stealthily getting the bad guy or murderer to accidentally give him a valuable piece of information that would seal his fate and put the perp behind bars. Case closed.

Sound like somebody else we all know?

 

[toddo777]

Thanks, MikeYank.... I agree that David grows on you with time. In this style of filmmaking, the viewer experience is through the perspective of the cameraman/director, especially with as much handheld camerawork Broke Straight Boys uses. In a sense, we become David and vicariously live through him. It's like he is our player character in a video game. I think that explains why so many people got upset when they had the perception that he is being attacked. For many, removing David's presence is practically equivalent to removing their own. Such strong identification with the camera is exactly what makes this style of filmmaking work so well in porn.

There have been times when I've fast-forwarded to the "good part", but I eventually go back to the intro conversation. I've always found that it puts the sex in context and makes it far hotter. Maybe a solution would be to offer a separate version of the film with the conversation edited out. I really think though that anyone who has never watched the conversations is missing out. Broke Straight Boys is more than just a collection of sex scenes. It's an ongoing narrative erotic drama that is quite entertaining to follow.

I went back and checked out the video with the hand coming out from behind the camera to see what was upsetting people so much. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see what the big deal is. That's nothing compared to some of the things I've seen on other sites. And after seeing David jerk numerous guys off on College Boy Physicals I barely even noticed this which only lated about 2 seconds. This is porn after all. I could understand if he was a priest doing that to an altar boy in a home video, but in this case it just seems like a huge waste of energy to get so upset about it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to put anyone on blast or say they shouldn't state their opinion. It's totally cool if you feel that way. I just found it amusing that people sound so upset munch in the same way I did when I met someone who had a phobia of feathers and witnessed them freak out when they saw one. It's so funny because I keep having these visuals of people gasping in shock and having anxiety attacks as they sit in front of their computers, haha I'm sure I'm reading way to much into what was stated. It's been interesting though to hear about the different ways people see things. Diversity is a good thing.

 

[Troublemaker123]

Oh, boy... Well, the only comment I'm going to make at this point is to ask Aquarius when the book comes out in paperback!!! I usually don't get a story when I read the posts in here, but it sounds like you do a lot of writing.

 

[mikeyank]

In this style of filmmaking, the viewer experience is through the perspective of the cameraman/director, especially with as much handheld camerawork Broke Straight Boys uses. In a sense, we become David and vicariously live through him. It's like he is our player character in a video game.

There have been times when I've fast-forwarded to the "good part", but I eventually go back to the intro conversation. I've always found that it puts the sex in context and makes it far hotter.

We seem to agree about this Toddo. I'd never thought about your theory that David is us in the scenes, and I totally agree that the sex in context to the pre-sex banter, makes it hotter. I think that sex is always far hotter when it is with someone that I know, and have admired. It is the same when we know the model's personality, how he smiles and who he is. Seeing the guy's dressed in their street clothes is important to me too.

Thanks for an interesting perspective on the Broke Straight Boys's phenomenon. I enjoy ready your posts.

 

[joninliverton]

Sound like somebody else we all know?

I'm totally at a loss. PM me if you don't want to mention his or her name in here.

 

[tampa24]

No Can Do

I'm totally at a loss. PM me if you don't want to mention his or her name in here.

Not even in a PM. His identity is Top Secret. If I told you, I'd have to kill you. National security and all that...

Let's just say, it's a good thing he's on our side. Or her! Oops...

 

[joeychuck2]

I subscribe to a lot of "restaurants," buddy.

same menu items different taste.

 

[LoganBroad]

I can't believe I am going to step in shit again, but here goes.

Logan, I think I speak for both joninleveton and mikeyank when I say that they are most cetainly not trying to run you off.

What they are saying is that what you object to is exactly what Broke Straight Boys is all about, and that it's not going to change. That is how the site was conceived and that is how it evolved, and that is the way it is going to stay. This has been discussed many, many, many times in the past, with the same results. David is here to stay, and the overwhelming majority of the members prefer it that way.

The analogy which was previously used is very appropriate. You wouldn't go into a Chinese restaurant and order Italian food. They don't serve it. You don't join a pay site which caters to a certain genre and expect it to change. All the previous posters were saying is if that is what you want, you will have to go elsewhere to find it. It is not going to happen here, nor would most of us want it to. Mikeyank, Joninliverton and myself all hope that you can find satisfaction here, that the bumbling, fondling, lovable David will grow on you. We love him and abhor the thought of making this site any less than what we bargained for.

So, please don't be offended when these fine gentlemen defend the site we love. They are not out to weed out the people who don't share our opinion. I know both of them and their heart was in the right place when they were trying to be helpful in advising you that your pleas would not be heeded, and to please not get upset about it.

Having said all of that, I hope gently but eloquently, all I can tell you is that you are pissing in the wind.

Who is "pissing in the wind" now?

 

[Smiley]

You realize you are responding to someone who hasn't posted here in six months, don't you?

 

[LoganBroad]

You realize you are responding to someone who hasn't posted here in six months, don't you?

Dammit! (Thanks for letting me know Smiley)

 

[tampa24]

Dammit! (Thanks for letting me know Smiley)

LOL You guys are too much.

 

[lpdude86]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion so do not bash them when they express it!
If you don't like what they write don't read it. As someone who has been a long time member I am getting very frustrated with the "perfect" forumites that feel that their opinion is the only one that counts and the one one that should be expressed. Maybe more people would participate if some of you old forumites would stop jumping down their throats when they express their opinions.
So if you don't like what the patron has to say about the restaurant maybe you should stop reading the menu!

 

[Smiley]

I am in heaven.

A rant over a totally forgetful post, in response to one that was abandoned by its author, in a thread resurrected from the dead.

Does it get any better than this?

I love your opinion, lpdude86. Express it anytime!

 

[Smiley]

Before you think I'm only here for the jokes, lpdude86, stop on over to the Bin Laden thread. A man of your generation, lubetube, is doing a great job taking on a bunch of old farts.

 

[slimvintage]

Before you think I'm only here for the jokes, lpdude86, stop on over to the Bin Laden thread. A man of your generation, lubetube, is doing a great job taking on a bunch of old farts.

Hope he doesn't disappear before he has the benefit of my last bit of flatulent wisdom, the young whippersnapper.