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Brian/Braden

Well, after my bitching about the text, I watched the video and really kind of liked it. Braden to me is one of the hottest models I've seen on here in a long time (note, that is my personal opinion, so please don't slam me for that); so much so I went to the other site and subscribed just for the other Braden videos.

I have to say, it's not so much he doesn't like gay sex, or like doing it-he's rather stoic, never letting on what he's feeling good or bad. Even in the other sites scenes where he's getting a couple of fingers stuck up his ass, he doesn't show anything.

My personal opinion is he may like it more than he's comfortable with, and rather than admit that or show it, he keeps a poker face. I may be wrong, but I base it on a couple of guys I've dated who did the same thing.

But having said that, all I can think is how much I would love to rim Braden's ass all night!
 
Abe, nothing personal, but I disagree with you. This is real as it gets. It's amateurs doing gay porn. I thought the pube stuck to Brian's tongue was funny. Him choking on one made me laugh, too. I'd rather watch the models laughing than bitching about what they are doing.

I'm reminded of a Bel Ami vid. Everyone always thinks BA is so polished. The models are pros, but some stuff happens even there. Uber deep throat Luke was blowing a newbie. When the newbie busted, he farted. That could have been muted out, but it wasn't. The only sign Luke made that it even happened, was a little smirk. The BA members asked each other if they heard what they thought they heard. Yep. We all heard it, and laughed. Sex isn't always champagne and rose petals.

I liked this vid a lot. These guys are amateurs. Stuff is gonna happen.
 
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Abe, nothing personal, but I disagree with you. This is real as it gets. It's amateurs doing gay porn. I thought the pube stuck to Brian's tongue was funny. Him choking on one made me laugh, too. I'd rather watch the models laughing than bitching about what they are doing.

I'm reminded of a Bel Ami vid. Everyone always thinks BA is so polished. The models are pros, but some stuff happens even there. Uber deep throat Luke was blowing a newbie. When the newbie busted, he farted. That could have been muted out, but it wasn't. The only sign Luke made that it even happened, was a little smirk. The BA members asked each other if they heard what they thought they heard. Yep. We all heard it, and laughed. Sex isn't always champagne and rose petals.

I liked this vid a lot. These guys are amateurs. Stuff is gonna happen.

Well to be honest, I disagree. These guys are not amateurs, they're paid to have sex on camera which makes them professionals. To me amateurs are when you make a video of you and your boyfriend having sex and then post it on xtube or something.

I don't have a problem with laughing, I love the guys to have fun as much as the next guy. But when they keep laughing *instead of having sex* is when it begins to irritate me. Like you I don't expect or want sex to always be champagne and rose petals, but I do want it to be hot though...not some big joke or something (lol).

I'm glad Brian continuing to get pubic hair stuck in his teeth and choking on it was funny to you, because to me it was really gross. It actually kind of surprises me how a lot of these guys do absolutely no grooming "down there" (aka manscaping) because in the straight world, you will find very few sexually active young straight guys who don't at least trim themselves down there. And definitely their balls.

I have a lot of straight female friends, and they have all told me that nothing grosses them out more than too much hair...and if a guy wants someone to lick his balls, they damn well better be shaved.

But, to each his own and I'm glad you loved the scene and found nothing wrong with it. I'm sure the next one will be much better. :001_smile:

Abe
 
Well, after my bitching about the text, I watched the video and really kind of liked it. Braden to me is one of the hottest models I've seen on here in a long time (note, that is my personal opinion, so please don't slam me for that); so much so I went to the other site and subscribed just for the other Braden videos.

I have to say, it's not so much he doesn't like gay sex, or like doing it-he's rather stoic, never letting on what he's feeling good or bad. Even in the other sites scenes where he's getting a couple of fingers stuck up his ass, he doesn't show anything.

My personal opinion is he may like it more than he's comfortable with, and rather than admit that or show it, he keeps a poker face. I may be wrong, but I base it on a couple of guys I've dated who did the same thing.

But having said that, all I can think is how much I would love to rim Braden's ass all night!

Scott, the jockphysicals site is HOT! Even though it's not nearly as polished and beautiful as Broke Straight Boys is (compliments to Scorpio, and all the Broke Straight Boys IT and web programmers along with all the production staff), but it still has some really hot content on it!

One thing that amazes me is that like 98% of the models on the jockphysical site are straight, yet probably 90% of the time they are ROCK HARD and throbbing when they step out of their underwear before the doctor starts "examining" their cock and balls before doing an anal probing and examination. It seems so real, and no nonsense, yet so erotic!

It's also erotic how a lot of times you can tell the patient is embarassed about being rock hard for the doctor. In a couple scenes, they even apologize to him for being hard!

There are also a couple scenes where they cum without even having their dick touched when the doctor hits their prostate with the probe.

Abe
 
Thanks David

I hope this give you guys more of an insight of my reality and life as a porn director...LOL.

David, thanks for taking the time on a Saturday, your day off, to get our heads back on right!
 
Scott, the jockphysicals site is HOT! Even though it's not nearly as polished and beautiful as Broke Straight Boys is (compliments to Scorpio, and all the Broke Straight Boys IT and web programmers along with all the production staff), but it still has some really hot content on it!

One thing that amazes me is that like 98% of the models on the jockphysical site are straight, yet probably 90% of the time they are ROCK HARD and throbbing when they step out of their underwear before the doctor starts "examining" their cock and balls before doing an anal probing and examination. It seems so real, and no nonsense, yet so erotic!

It's also erotic how a lot of times you can tell the patient is embarassed about being rock hard for the doctor. In a couple scenes, they even apologize to him for being hard!

There are also a couple scenes where they cum without even having their dick touched when the doctor hits their prostate with the probe.

Abe

Would you consider the models on jockphysical amateurs or pros?
 
I know this is hard to believe but 75% of the guys you see on this site are straight or curious and this is the first time they are having gay sex. For whatever reason is driving them to this, I don't have the answer. Now, there is a member of this site and is an active forum member who recently referred me a model. This model happens to be married and has two kids and this particular guy is doing gay porn. This model is straight but for whatever reason is willing to film gay porn. I know once this model appears on this site, you will all think he's gay...but I will let this particular member that referred him defend the integrity of the model since he knows him best...but that will be another discussion later on down the line :)

I hope this give you guys more of an insight of my reality and life as a porn director...LOL.

Hell David, why wait. I have referred 4 models to David that he has accepted. 2 str8, 1 bi and 1 gayish (has since gotten a gf). Only one made it all the way to the futon. One never did his phone interview, one backed out (read disappeared) 2 weeks out from filming, and the other one choked when it was time to make flight arrangements. The one that did make it is David Taylor. He is 22, str8, married, 2 kids (10 yo is hers, 6 month old is theirs). His wife sent him in my direction as she did a stint in porn in CA. David T. figures that he knows what feels good when his wife does it, so what the hell, why not with a guy if there is money involved. He is in it for the money. He wants to provide for his family and get ahead of things rather than always being behind all the time. Now don't get me wrong, the boy LIKES sex. But there are things he won't do. He's just not ready for everything. But I know he is str8 and at the end of the day, he's going home to the wife and kids. If anyone who doubts could see the way they interact and look at each other, then they would never say anything but he's str8.

I have worked with David as a referral source. I have an idea of what he goes thru. Out of the 200 or so guys that responded to my ads in the last 8 months, I probably got 40 thru the door. Of that after talking maybe 25 made it to taking pix. Of that 25 I have found jobs for just over a handful. Two of those actually made it to a studio. David gets my admiration for handling the boys he has and for all the time he spends on prospects that don't pan out.

It's not Boyz in Toyland, it's a job. Yes, you get to see a lot of cocks. Believe me when I say that some you really don't want to see! And it isn't a come to Uncle Pervy thing either. Job, not playtime. :pornshoot:

Anyway, I'm ready to "defend" David T. (and David A.) whenever and wherever. Bring it on! :001_tt2:
 
Would you consider the models on jockphysical amateurs or pros?

From a technical standpoint, if it is their first time being videotaped getting naked on camera and they come in for their first interview/shoot on Monday at 1:00 pm sharp, at 12:59 they are an amateur. But, once the camera rolls and they get their $$$ for doing the scene, they have just turned pro.

I get the whole "technically amateur" versus "amateur themed" thing, and generally speaking I do think it's much hotter to watch what appears to be completely amateur footage. Even if it's not technically amateur, it still makes it much hotter to me than that high-budget stuff that many of the big studios in L.A. have been shoving out for years. The whole multi-million dollar budget per "project", professional [usually CHEESY] music which serves no purpose other than to cover up the sounds of sex (and directors), etc.

Since I went high-speed internet several years ago, I haven't been to an adult store like Hottt Flixxx to rent/purchase those high budget/high priced dvd's even once hehehehehe. All thanks to great sites like Broke Straight Boys, College Boy Physicals, Jockphysical, etc.

Abe
 
These guys are not amateurs, they're paid to have sex on camera which makes them professionals. To me amateurs are when you make a video of you and your boyfriend having sex and then post it on xtube or something. Abe

Abe:

Does a scholarship and a stipend make college sports "professional"? I think that particular term has a slightly different meaning here than elsewhere. A "pro" has a lot of experience, been seen on many sites and dvd's and commands more money for their performance. Amateur really doesn't have anything to do with getting paid, but rather with experience level. I guess then at CF $1900 for a jo makes someone a pro. Or even the boys on jockphysicals... they were paid. And as for Xtube, if they sell the scene are they pro's? Many people do that. I haven't seen a str8 boy getting fucked on Xtube just for the fun of it though.

So by your definition, the boys on Broke Straight Boys are pro's. They may be broke and straight, but not amateurs. IMHO Austin Grant is a pro, as well as Jacob Anthony. Tyler is a "pro" now as he has substantial experience albeit all with D&E. Same with Dr. Topinbottom. But the rest are amateurs, newbies to the biz.

If you can find the amateur str8 boys on Xtube, please let me know. I'd like to turn them into pros! :porn:
Please do not take offense at the style of my writing. No offense was intended, although I do disagree with you. Disagreement in of itself doesn't mean offense or attack. So if my wording causes injury, please forgive me.
 
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May I point out something? Braden, the "straight boy" was almost instantly hard when stripped down to his briefs. Coincidence? Who cares? They both creamed and it was hot.
 
Would you consider the models on jockphysical amateurs or pros?

Good point. I consider the guys on jockphysical and here amateurs. When I think of professionals I think of guys like Rob Romoni, Jayden Gray, Tommy D, etc. There's a big difference between having experience and being a pro.

Example. The guy next door knows something about cars, that doesn't make him an ASE certified mechanic, no more than doing a few scenes makes one a pro in the porn business.

And Abe, yes, there are some very hot guys on there, and I do find the whole exam bit very hot. I also think the site needs a major overhaul as well, and the videos really need to be better quality-I'm spoiled by the HD I suppose. My only question is if they have porn playing in the background as the guys always seem to be looking at something. Maybe it's a monitor and they're watching themselves, but it's kind of distracting.
 
Abe:

Does a scholarship and a stipend make college sports "professional"? I think that particular term has a slightly different meaning here than elsewhere. A "pro" has a lot of experience, been seen on many sites and dvd's and commands more money for their performance. Amateur really doesn't have anything to do with getting paid, but rather with experience level. I guess then at CF $1900 for a jo makes someone a pro. Or even the boys on jockphysicals... they were paid. And as for Xtube, if they sell the scene are they pro's? Many people do that. I haven't seen a str8 boy getting fucked on Xtube just for the fun of it though.

So by your definition, the boys on Broke Straight Boys are pro's. They may be broke and straight, but not amateurs. IMHO Austin Grant is a pro, as well as Jacob Anthony. Tyler is a "pro" now as he has substantial experience albeit all with D&E. Same with Dr. Topinbottom. But the rest are amateurs, newbies to the biz.

If you can find the amateur str8 boys on Xtube, please let me know. I'd like to turn them into pros! :porn:
Please do not take offense at the style of my writing. No offense was intended, although I do disagree with you. Disagreement in of itself doesn't mean offense or attack. So if my wording causes injury, please forgive me.

Hey TusconJayce, I see your point. Point well taken, no offense taken at all here. :thumbup:

Oh, and I know of a couple hotties on xtube who are pretty amateur...one self proclaimed bi boy with a biiiig cock (9 inches) in particular who lives in South Florida and I swear the dude makes at least 5 videos per week of himself jacking off in front of his camera. And then posts them on xtube. However...his vids are not free so I guess he's not just doing it for the fun of it. :masterbate:

I wish someone would get him on the futon sometime! You can check him out here...he goes by the name "Big D":

http://www.xtube.com/amateur_channels/amateur.php?u=dlewis787

Abe
 
Some members are wanting these boys to rim, swallow cum, kiss, and do things that "gay" boys would do. These boys are not gay and they are very limited to what they are going to do...

Just this past week and to give you an idea what we go through when dealing with straight boys, we had a really hot guy...very straight...he did one scene and he bolted on the next flight back home to Los Angles...he was so disgusted and turned off by doing anything else, he left our studio.
On the two points that I copied, David, will you show us the one scene with the very hot, very straight guy who bolted out the door back home? I would love to see this kid do whatever you had him do. And if you show it, I hope you will identify him as the kid who bolted after one scene.

And as far as members wanting "these boys to rim, swallow cum, kiss, and do things that "gay" boys would do", I am always amused by these requests, as why are you coming to this site if you want to see boys who want to do all these things with another guy? If these so called straight boys want to kiss, and rim and swallow cum and get fucked, how can you call them straight?

Thank you David for long detailed posts like this. The forum and your usual openness, makes this great site even greater. I love Broke Straight Boys and I love you David. :001_smile:
 
On the two points that I copied, David, will you show us the one scene with the very hot, very straight guy who bolted out the door back home? I would love to see this kid do whatever you had him do. And if you show it, I hope you will identify him as the kid who bolted after one scene.

And as far as members wanting "these boys to rim, swallow cum, kiss, and do things that "gay" boys would do", I am always amused by these requests, as why are you coming to this site if you want to see boys who want to do all these things with another guy? If these so called straight boys want to kiss, and rim and swallow cum and get fucked, how can you call them straight?

Thank you David for long detailed posts like this. The forum and your usual openness, makes this great site even greater. I love Broke Straight Boys and I love you David. :001_smile:

I agree with all said except the part about showing the vid of the one kid who left. Obviously it's Broke Straight Boys's choice on whether to post it or not; but I think in fairness to the models feelings, it should probably just be canned. And who knows what kind of shit he might stir were it to be put up. Just my two cents on that.
 
Totally dissapointed with this duo and to be honest i thought both models kinda took the piss. I don't think this film should ever have been published and that David should have carried out his threat and thrown them both out of the studio - especially Brian who, considering he has been around a bit, was quite unprofessional and unfocused. Considering what Jayce has said about his referrals, I find it difficult how these 2 got through the system, although I did think that their solos were acceptable.

I would like to give Braden another chance and I see by David's comment he has done just that. Braden kinda reminds me facially of Logan and his dick reminds me of Diesal's. I'm not bothered if I see Brian again.
 
I had a look at the video before this thread was started and I knew that it was going to create lots of comment. You guys have not failed me. My opinion - if you are looking for hot then it's not for you. It's different! Both boys have great bodies and managed great cum shots. That may be enough for some. The giggles didn't bother me but they are not sexy. Brian just saw how terrified Braden was to suck cock and it struck him funny. Brian seemed eager to do what was asked. I'm not sure but I think part of the problem was Braden's cough. It can't be easy to deep throat with a cough. I just hope it wasn't from smoking cause it won't go away. I got a little tired of Braden's reluctance. After all the guy has decided to be in a gay porn, suck it up and stop being a cry baby. I prefer them to be relaxed and a little jokey rather than stiff and mechanical.
By the way, David, when you are negotiating prices beyond $1500 there are other numbers before $2000. You know $1600 or $1700. I am one of those who doesn't like it when the obviously gay guy gets a lot less. Not as much as the straight but close.
 
I got a little tired of Braden's reluctance. After all the guy has decided to be in a gay porn, suck it up and stop being a cry baby. I prefer them to be relaxed and a little jokey rather than stiff and mechanical.

By the way, David, when you are negotiating prices beyond $1500 there are other numbers before $2000. You know $1600 or $1700. I am one of those who doesn't like it when the obviously gay guy gets a lot less. Not as much as the straight but close.
Again, a case of "different strokes for different folks". What makes Broke Straight Boys hot to me, is seeing an uneasy straight boy reluctantly doing something that he does not normally do, for the cash. When they are too relaxed and ready to do it all, the illusion of them being straight becomes very fuzzy to me, and I don't find it as hot.

And as far as the monetary negotiations, David has never directly answered that question, but Tuscon Jayce who appears to have his finger on the pulse of the male porn business, and has a personal relationship with David and Eddie, recently told us on the forum, that the monetary figures bandied about on camera are merely part of the "play acting". The real figures have been negotiated and settled well before David welcomes the boys to, or back to Broke Straight Boys, so don't take it too seriously what the obviously gay guy gets .
 
I agree completely, Mikeyank. Although I wouldn't be surprised if there is an added "bonus" after the scene is completed, if things had gone beyond what was originally planned on happening. For example, if there is some spontaneous kissing or cum eating in a scene that wasn't actually negotiated before-hand, it wouldn't surprise me if the model(s) get some extra 'love' added to their check.

I also think it's funny, and fun to watch the banter and "negotiating during the on-camera/pre sex interview". Even though it would be extremely politically INcorrect to actually pay the gay boy less (in real life) and could probably end up being settled in the courts if that were really the case, it's funny to see the scene being portrayed as pretty politically incorrect.

Although, come to think of it, straight boys in straight porn are viewed as nothing more than a prop, and they are paid SIGNIFICANTLY less than their female co-stars. The real money for these guys is in gay porn...which makes me wonder...do the girls who perfom straight sex for the sites whose target audience is those who generally watch more for the guys in the scene instead of the girls (i.e. Corbin Fisher's Amateur College Sex, Jake Cruise's Straight Guys for Gay Eyes etc.) get paid less than mainstream female porn stars?

Abe
 
Thanks mikeyank,
I had it in my head that what you say might be the case. Really on the older scenes it was kinda fun to watch them negotiate the next step. I wonder if David got a little bored with it. It was quite funny on some scenes where he would say to just bust a nut and you didn't have to touch the guy next to you, and then they would end up fucking. Theatre! I decided that this was probably true for Twinks for Cash, too.
New thought, why aren't there more flipflops? I was watching the Diesal/Chasen scene and thought with the sizes of both their dicks, wouldn't a flipflop be great!
 
Thanks David for the long detailed post you did. It was great and I think the scene was pretty good too. Although, you posted the scene is not out of order, I have to say that's not true...... In the scene you clearly say, you did oral already with shean or how ever you want to spell his name today, and he says yes and you say we are having you back again today to do it again. The fact is I have not seen a scene with Braden and Sean. So it is in fact out of order as you talk on video about a scene I have not watched. But all that said, it was a good shoot and liked the fact it was real. Not polished. Like the "get your act together" and "I don't know what's going on here" It was kind of nice to see that it is not all just a first take with these guys, that they are in fact straight "Braden", or there are bloopers "Brian" hair on tongue..... It was a good video and again thank you for the personal update you took the time to give us. I look forward to more from both Braden and Brian.
 
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