BluMedia (BrokeStraightBoys) Bareback Statement:

[rrhill]

While researching the Internet for HIV test information, I noticed that false negatives are not the problem, instead false positives are.

"...the use of repeatedly reactive enzyme immunoassay followed by confirmatory Western blot or immunofluorescent assay remains the standard method for diagnosing HIV-1 infection. A large study of HIV testing in 752 U.S. laboratories reported a sensitivity of 99.7% and specificity of 98.5% for enzyme immunoassay, and studies in U.S. blood donors reported specificities of 99.8% and greater than 99.99%. With confirmatory Western blot, the chance of a false-positive identification in a low-prevalence setting is about 1 in 250 000 (95% CI, 1 in 173 000 to 1 in 379 000)."

The biggest risk for these guys is to get a positive result while they are negative.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnosis_of_HIV/AIDS
Read more about these false postives: http://www.naturalnews.com/029689_western_blot_HIV_test.html

 

[joninliverton]

I have read most of the posts on this subject and although I personally enjoy watching bareback sex and cum dripping out of a fantastic asshole I believe the decision is a poor one. I take risks myself. I love to rim and swallow, but in this case these younger adults should be protected as much as possible and at all costs. Although you could never prove it, or at least it would be hard, if one of our cuties got HIV after barbacking I think me might all question our selfish carnal desires.

That's a bit hypocritical dude. You say you enjoy watching bareback sex but only if our cuties are not involved. You are either for or against - dont sit on the fence.

 

[mikeyank]

I have read most of the posts on this subject and although I personally enjoy watching bareback sex and cum dripping out of a fantastic asshole I believe the decision is a poor one. I take risks myself. I love to rim and swallow, but in this case these younger adults should be protected as much as possible and at all costs. Although you could never prove it, or at least it would be hard, if one of our cuties got HIV after barbacking I think me might all question our selfish carnal desires.

That's a bit hypocritical dude. You say you enjoy watching bareback sex but only if our cuties are not involved. You are either for or against - dont sit on the fence.

Actually Jon, I think Frontier is being very REAL. It is like a straight middle aged man watching some wild lesbian porn with chicks having dildos in all orifices and the guy is jacking away like mad, until the next scene comes on and it is his own 19 year old daughter. That would change everything.

It may be hypocritical, but watching anonymous gay porn with twinks barebacking does not strike me the same way as when I see one of my "boys" from Broke Straight Boys doing it. It feels so much more real, and as I'm afraid that you have inferred in another post, that one of our beloved forum favorites may be the next to take a cock and cum without a condom, and that scares me.

 

[BenBen]

Amen JLipps, I congratulate you on your candor, as many of us who have been through this epidemic with people we love and have lost there is a very real downside to the disease. I suspect the models who do bareback scenes here or for other sites also sign a waiver assuming all responsibility for their actions so no company can be held responsible for any infections leaving the model totally out in the cold and on his own with no money, no insurance and no support system.

 

[JLipps4u]

Life is about risk. We all know that. Each of us every day take risks. When you drive a car on the freeway for example, there is a risk which each of us weights in terms of the possible benefits doing so brings into our live. In my work I have often used epidemiologists who testify as to the risks associated to certain activities.

To be clear I am delighted that the Broke Straight Boys management has taken very specific steps to ensure that their models are completely vetted before being allowed to perform bareback sex. I believe them when they say they have concerns about the safety of their models. I believe them when they speak of family. But on any of those tests there is a margin of error. I know this well. In my legal practice if I representing someone on a legal issue whether civil or criminal, the first question I ask the medical expert is about the margin of error on any tests performed. But I do have some questions. I understand that there is now a medication available for high risk individuals and people doing bareback would certainly be in the category of high risk to further reduce the rick of becoming infected with HIV. Has management considered whether to offer that medication to its models who are engaging in bareback for the period while they are doing bareback scenes? If not, have they at least informed the models of its existence and how they could obtain it if they so wished prior to doing bareback? In addition if a model were to sero-convert as a result of performing in a bareback scene, does the management intend to assist them in obtaining the necessary medical treatment and if so will the management cover the costs of that treatment? If not has management informed them of this and possibly informed them of what steps they might be able to take to ensure they do have medical coverage in place in case the unthinkable does occur?

Similarly if one does become HIV+ the attendant medical issues involved are many. I am given to understand that some of the models "did not bat an eye" at being asked to do this. That is all well and good as it stands but that does not tell me whether they had any real understanding of what it was they were being asked to do and the attendant risks and consequences associated with doing the bareback scenes.

I understand that we are speaking of young adults who are certainly old enough legally, morally and ethically to make their own decisions. I have had never had the pleasure of meeting any of the Broke Straight Boys models personally as some have. I hope that some day I do have that pleasure. But at this point I cannot assess what their respective levels of maturity and life experience are as individual persons sufficiently to be comfortable with the idea that they made a knowing decision based upon all the variables.

Those of us who have been around long enough and have friends and family [or perhaps are ourselves HIV+ are aware of the medical issues involved. The regular doctor visits and blood work. The medicines that must be taken according to a strict regimen else the medicine become ineffective, the costs in time and money of complying with the medical advice, the side effects of both the medicine and the disease process which can be mild or severe depending on the person. The effects of long term use of these meds in terms of increased risks of diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, neuropathy and other medical issues. These are not things to be taken lightly.

I know some people have expressed their support of the decision, some have like me expressed their concerns, others have announced they were leaving because of the decision. Ethics and morality are complex issues but they exist in all facets of life including those who model for, those who produce and those who pay to watch on porn sites. I would not dismiss that fact lightly. Being concerned about the well being of the models for whatever reasons is not a question of political correctness nor is it a matter which is subject to a popularity contest based on the number of votes a given sex scene received simply because it was a bareback scene.

As I have said previously I am of two minds about these events. As yet I cannot decide what I am going to do personally. But I have expressed my concerns.

Very well stated, thank you!

 

[joninliverton]

Actually Jon, I think Frontier is being very REAL. It is like a straight middle aged man watching some wild lesbian porn with chicks having dildos in all orifices and the guy is jacking away like mad, until the next scene comes on and it is his own 19 year old daughter. That would change everything.

It may be hypocritical, but watching anonymous gay porn with twinks barebacking does not strike me the same way as when I see one of my "boys" from Broke Straight Boys doing it. It feels so much more real, and as I'm afraid that you have inferred in another post, that one of our beloved forum favorites may be the next to take a cock and cum without a condom, and that scares me.

Get real Mike, it is totally hypocritical. Like saying its ok to take heroin and drink and drive as long as the people you know don't do it. And to put a more recent perspective to it, it's ok for a gunman to shoot people as long as you don't know them. And to quote the cliche "my boys" I have to laugh. They are no more your boys than they are mine, or the 95 year old woman down my street.

Stop sitting on the fence - you are either for it or against.

 

[mikeyank]

Get real Mike, it is totally hypocritical. Like saying its ok to take heroin and drink and drive as long as the people you know don't do it. And to put a more recent perspective to it, it's ok for a gunman to shoot people as long as you don't know them. And to quote the cliche "my boys" I have to laugh. They are no more your boys than they are mine, or the 95 year old woman down my street.

Stop sitting on the fence - you are either for it or against.

Once again, I will try to explain my feelings on this subject. In my 62 years of living my life, I've come to understand that there are not always simplistic answers to even important questions. Every question cannot always be answered with a simple yes or no, or a right or wrong.

I honestly am not the right judge to say if watching bareback sex on the internet is hot or not, as anal sex is not "my thing" either in my real life or watching or reading porn. While I have been fucked two or three times in my past, my most loving and or passionate encounters have involved holding the other person, kissing, stroking, lovemaking usually culminating in wild unabashed cock sucking and cum sharing, without anal action, but that is just me, and I do understand the importance to most gay men and lovers of watching gay porn of anal sex. So whereas it is more hypothetical for me, I do understand what an important aspect this type of action holds for the average Broke Straight Boys viewer.

To a person who receives great pleasure from watching a hot young guy put his unsheathed cock into his partner's asshole, giving him a good fucking culminating in actually seeing the cum in the freshly fucked hole, as we saw when Johnny removed his cock from Lucas moments after depositing his fresh load, the viewer may be highly excited and aroused, and then the scene has accomplished it's purpose with that viewer. That is the fantasy of porn which can highly excite the viewer on an emotional level.

When it comes to watching the models on this site, it feels different on an intellectual level, as the main allure of this site to me, is the reality aspect of getting to know these young men as people, and to actually care about them and their well being. I understand that in reality they are not "my boys" or anyone else's boys, but through their frequent visits to the futon or to the current couch or bed of Clay, and through their postings on the forum, and through the wonderful new BTS that Mark is providing for us, there is a different level of concern for these boys than for an anonymous young twink that I may watch on on a random X-Tube or even on a High School Boys clip. Again, I personally do not get this pleasure, but I can certainly understand the seemingly hypocritical attitude of a viewer.

And in reality I got the impression that the poster who said he enjoys watching "raw action", was talking about his fantasies in a world where this danger did not exist, and he and others might also be uncomfortable with the bareback action of these anonymous twinks as well, but it hits home harder when it is one of "our boys", (please note the quotations. I know they are not truly ours), but when we witness a model who we've made an emotional investment in through their repeated appearances on the various aspects of this site do it, it feels like it is a member of our family taking a totally unnecessary risk simply for the carnal enjoyment of a segment of the audience, and that is why it feels wrong to me.

Call me a hypocrite, if you like, and that is fine with me, but these are my true 100% honest feelings on this subject.

 

[joninliverton]

Your career should have been a politician Mike..

 

[PPiper]

It's encouraging that there's been as much debate on the forum as there has been. The owner's statement pushed me to make a decision, which is to their credit. As I wrote before, I understand the financial reasoning behind the decision – as well as the the tendency on their part and of many of the posters here to rationalize the risk away, or to accept the risk as just fine given that it will be the models taking the risks, not themselves. In this respect joninliverton who posts the profile of the dead cat is typical, although more obnoxious than most.

I've been a member of this site on and off since it started. It's a great idea, I love the amateur aspect, the guys make me laugh and some of them are really sexy. (I'm another one of Paul Canon's fans.) But the idea of paying guys to risk HIV just so we can get off disgusts me. So that's it, I'm terminating my subscription. Good luck to all the guys who posted here – except for jon who can go stuff himself.

 

[Youngandconfused22]

This is hands down one of the stupidest arguments I've ever seen on Broke Straight Boys People are leaving the site based on one bareback scene and even after Broke Straight Boys said it was the models choice to do it and all the precautions they are taking. It makes me laugh that members make it sound like a death sentence. After all the years of being a member people are leaving because of a little change that's not even all the time. I think this whole topic has been beaten to death. Some people are so afraid of the slight chance something could happen to a model after they have chosen to do it. My final point is look how high that rating was for he bareback scene. Doesn't that tell you something.

 

[mikeyank]

My final point is look how high that rating was for he bareback scene. Doesn't that tell you something.

Yes, it tells me that you missed the whole point of what many of us feel uneasy about. No a high "rating" is totally irrelevant to our concerns.

 

[joninliverton]

It's encouraging that there's been as much debate on the forum as there has been. The owner's statement pushed me to make a decision, which is to their credit. As I wrote before, I understand the financial reasoning behind the decision – as well as the the tendency on their part and of many of the posters here to rationalize the risk away, or to accept the risk as just fine given that it will be the models taking the risks, not themselves. In this respect joninliverton who posts the profile of the dead cat is typical, although more obnoxious than most.

I've been a member of this site on and off since it started. It's a great idea, I love the amateur aspect, the guys make me laugh and some of them are really sexy. (I'm another one of Paul Canon's fans.) But the idea of paying guys to risk HIV just so we can get off disgusts me. So that's it, I'm terminating my subscription. Good luck to all the guys who posted here – except for jon who can go stuff himself.

Not obnoxious just straightforward, furthermore I don't need to stuff myself I am young enough to get stuffed anytime I like. Thank you for your enlightening contribution on this site - I think you've only ever posted on this subject. Bye bye PPiper - see you around soon with another screen name..LOL

 

[juanjo]

Yes, it tells me that you missed the whole point of what many of us feel uneasy about. No a high "rating" is totally irrelevant to our concerns.

On point as usual mikeyank. I am sure that there are many people out there who are very excited about bareback scenes. They are going to give a bareback scene high marks because of that. As I noted in another post I was ironically amused at the high rating because many of the people giving the scene high ratings have in the past given similar scenes with condoms but otherwise the same level of action a lower and sometimes much lower rating. In addition, I and perhaps others [I cannot say one way or another] did not rate it precisely because it was bareback.

The bitter irony of all this is last night I was contacted by a former client, a 24 year old former resident of Redhook, Brooklyn. He related that his 48 year old, now former boyfriend informed him last week that despite having told him repeatedly over a 6 year relationship that he was HIV negative, he was in fact HIV+ and that he should be tested which he promptly did. The results are that he is now positive. This young man had in past been regularly tested and had always been negative. As recently as a year ago he was tested with a clean bill of health. He was shocked to discover when speaking with his doctor just what issues he may now face. He had been under the impression that HIV was no longer a big deal. If you got it, you took a pill everyday and no problems. He has now had an explanation of just how much his life is changing, from medication side effects he may experience as well as possible effects of the virus not to mention the fact he has lost his job [dental assistant] and a number of friends as well. The consequences of the virus have impacted him emotionally, physically, psychologically and financially.

He wants me to arrange a meeting with someone in the District Attorney's office to prefer charges against this creep who actually admitted in a text that he must be sick because he did not care that he had done this to someone he supposedly cared about. He also wants me to represent him in a civil lawsuit against the guy which I probably will refer to a friend of mine who has more experience in that area.

But the point I want to raise here is the mindset of this young man who is decidedly not an idiot. He is a streetwise young man, who has worked hard to get an education and make something out of himself. Yet he, like other young people often operate under the assumption that HIV is not that big a deal anymore. You just pop a pill and everything is copacetic. It isn't and there is an increased risk. That is the reason that some of us have said what we have said.

 

[Ambivalent]

Hey, guys,

I apologize ~ I was away dealing with furnace issues for several days (which, in arctic Canada, is significant): and so I am late to this discussion: and I am not meaning to drag it on, as I think most perspectives have been well-represented by one member, or another. I will just offer the following comments:

#1 ~ In all such scenarios, what MATTERS, is, the efficacy of the testing regime, and the WINDOW of vulnerability between testing, and the performance: a window in which exposure and infection, can occur. (Id est: if you test me three days before the shoot, I hook up two days before the shoot, and get infected, and then DO the shoot - my partner is not protected.) When I first read about the new company plans, this was the thing that was causing me the greatest anxiety. (A lot, a lot, to be honest.)

#2 ~ I appreciated the combination of Sha's explanation of the method and the efficacy of testing to be used, and the words of the warning in the Johnny-Lucas video, which said that, "Broke Straight Boys who have decided to participate in our bareback scenes are tested immediately prior to their performances. . . " If the PCR test is as sensitive as represented (I am not a medical expert), and "immediately before" MEANS "immediately before". . . I am somewhat (though not entirely) consoled.

#3 ~ It ought to be said that condoms are not "fail-safe", either; sometimes, they fail. However, they do provide significant protection, even when one partner is HIV positive, and the other is HIV negative. http://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/brief.html It also seems clear that antiretroviral therapy for an HIV-positive partner (lowering viral load) can decrease the risk of contracting HIV for an HIV-negative partner.

#4 ~ My heart is with both MikeYank AND the nice Irish doctor, in all of this: in fact, I would like to see both testing AND condom use, employed on behalf of all our Broke Straight Boys models - and all of us! (And I think every model who "rims", should ALSO be vaccinated for hepatitis "A", and "B", as well!) Sex is beautiful, and exciting, and one of our greatest fulfilments, as human beings: but, just because it IS so intimate, it is now (as it has ALWAYS been): perilous. It has ever been thus: just read Henrik Ibsen's Ghosts, penned in 1881. This is not a new problem. . . but it is as urgent as EVER, because people's lives are at stake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_(play)

#5 ~ It is clear that this industry is going condomless, FAST, in response to consumer demand, and that it is very difficult for sites which do not offer this, to attract as many new members as they need to, to stay viable. Especially because many young people today believe that HIV and AIDS are effectively conquered, by new medications. Of course they are NOT yet conquered, but only held at bay. And I rejoice for those whose lives have been saved by the new medications, but - I do not want to see anyone struggle, so: where prevention could and WOULD have sufficed.

#6 ~ This is a peculiarity of mine, I suppose: but I have never completely understood the fixation of large, excited, audiences, with "bareback sex". In such scenes (but also in be-condomed ones, too) one SEES, and has the opportunity to ADMIRE, the top's glamorous penis as it is being SUCKED (a relatively very low-risk activity, at least insofar as HIV transmission is concerned, as long as the one providing oral comfort has no oral CUTS, or recent dental work, or the like. . . though OTHER STD's, including nasty syphilis, are a risk, which is one reason testing is a GOOD thing!)

But here is the gravamen, and the POINT of my argument - - - once the TOP sticks it in, you can see it, no longer, whether sheathed, or bare!!! (To put it bluntly, the salami. . . is BURIED!) So - whence stems the frenzy????

I submit, humbly, that it is all psychological (and I am well aware of the inevitable rejoinder, that ALL erotic video is, inevitably, a psychological experience, in its major portion: this is true, and a well-founded critique ~ however, I think that there is a slight difference, here.)

If one has a fetish for eyes, noses, throats, armpits, nipples, navels, abs, thighs, knees, feet, perfectly-rounded butts, or, what-have-you: ALL those things are on full view, throughout the entirety (or at least generously in the course) of any given video. If one has a fetish for unclad penises in anal coitus, one shall see such blessed BARENESS for precisely two seconds when it pops IN, and for another two, when it POPS OUT AGAIN;-) That's it, and that will be ALL.

I imagine that, those who have a fetish for unprotected sex love seeing it on-screen for a couple of reasons, perhaps in combination: (a) ~ they have had it themselves, and know that skin always feels better on skin (as undoubtedly, it does); and, (b), even though, in actuality, they can't really SEE it. . . IMAGINING that it is happening conjures those recollected, blissful, moments, for them: even though there are only a few visible seconds, on the screen, which suggest it is happening. . . .

Well, hey. I am far from being innocent of sexual desire, and have about 2,000 fetishes, of my own ;-) So, I understand how irrational these things can be, and are. This one, though (perhaps because of my sexual naivete, or inexperience, or incompetence: remains a physical and OCULAR mystery to me; though not entirely a psychological one.

#7 ~ I believe, in offering members some "bareback" scenes, the management of Broke Straight Boys is (in very good faith) offering the very best testing methods, used in an appropriate fashion. In some cases, these very methods MAY indeed help some of the models we love, to know, understand, and receive treatment for, health problems that may beset them (hitherto unbeknownst to them): and that is a very good thing!!! (With triple exclamation marks.) And so, I shall view these scenes, if they have some appeal to me, and not torture myself to death because they have been filmed. And, since the whole industry is going "bareback", these days, I would much rather models did it in an environment of good and capable and conscientious and medically up-to-date testing, than in an environment where none of these things is possible.

All of this is much beyond my control. Canute himself stood upon the strand, commanded the tides not to wet his feet, and, when they did, exclaimed, "Let all the world know, how empty and worthless, is the power of kings. . . . " I am no Canute, much less a king, and it is clear that this particular tide is coming in. All we can do, for our friends, is to offer words of care, and temperance, and caution. Which I am bound to do, and which I have (herein) attempted to do.

#8 ~ NONETHELESS . . . I, personally, would NOT have unprotected anal sex with my boyfriend. (He knows it.) I would not encourage ANY friend to have unprotected anal sex with ANY boyfriend (let alone a casual partner), even if tested - OR to "rim" such a partner without having been vaccinated for hepatitis "A", and "B". And, if I encountered ANY of our Broke Straight Boys models in a quiet, personal moment, up here at the arctic circle, and he asked MY opinion, I would say exactly that. Because, you know, some of these guys DO start to seem like friends, or even family, eventually (call me fond, and foolish, if you will, and some of you, I know, SHALL) - and for friends and family we want only the best, in life.

Whilst knowing, full-well, that the bareback era is here, in full force (until, perhaps, the next mutation of some virus presents itself - and viruses are always clever that way, and perpetually evolve, and certain human mucosa are perpetually - by their very design - vulnerable to every new virus which comes along): I think the Broke Straight Boys management has done its very best to safeguard their models, which I hope shall suffice; those of us of a more cautious nature have said our piece; and those who require bareback scenes ought just to enjoy their moment. (Though the more percipient among them may have occasion to examine their consciences, also ;-)))

This is all I have to say, upon this fraught, and difficult, subject.

Love,
"A" XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

 

[JLipps4u]

Ambivalent,

What a well thought out and written post. You can add me to your way of thinking. I was particularly taKen by point #6. I have been wondering the same thing. How can people get so turned on by seeing a dick that is buried in someone's ass. I think it is ridiculous. For me, it is more of a turn on to actually see a penis being worked over by a hungry mouth.

 

[tampa24]

#2 ~ I appreciated the combination of Sha's explanation of the method and the efficacy of testing to be used, and the words of the warning in the Johnny-Lucas video, which said that, "Broke Straight Boys who have decided to participate in our bareback scenes are tested immediately prior to their performances. . . " If the PCR test is as sensitive as represented (I am not a medical expert), and "immediately before" MEANS "immediately before". . . I am somewhat (though not entirely) consoled.

#4 ~ My heart is with both MikeYank AND the nice Irish doctor, in all of this: in fact, I would like to see both testing AND condom use, employed on behalf of all our Broke Straight Boys models - and all of us! (And I think every model who "rims", should ALSO be vaccinated for hepatitis "A", and "B", as well!) Sex is beautiful, and exciting, and one of our greatest fulfilments, as human beings.

#5 ~ It is clear that this industry is going condomless, FAST, in response to consumer demand, and that it is very difficult for sites which do not offer this, to attract as many new members as they need to, to stay viable.

#6 ~ This is a peculiarity of mine, I suppose: but I have never completely understood the fixation of large, excited, audiences, with "bareback sex". But here is the gravamen, and the POINT of my argument - - - once the TOP sticks it in, you can see it, no longer, whether sheathed, or bare!!! (To put it bluntly, the salami. . . is BURIED!) So - whence stems the frenzy???? If one has a fetish for unclad penises in anal coitus, one shall see such blessed BARENESS for precisely two seconds when it pops IN, and for another two, when it POPS OUT AGAIN;-) That's it, and that will be ALL.

#7 ~ I believe, in offering members some "bareback" scenes, the management of Broke Straight Boys is (in very good faith) offering the very best testing methods, used in an appropriate fashion. In some cases, these very methods MAY indeed help some of the models we love, to know, understand, and receive treatment for, health problems that may beset them (hitherto unbeknownst to them): and that is a very good thing!!! (With triple exclamation marks.) And so, I shall view these scenes, if they have some appeal to me, and not torture myself to death because they have been filmed. All of this is much beyond my control. And, since the whole industry is going "bareback", these days, I would much rather models did it in an environment of good and capable and conscientious and medically up-to-date testing, than in an environment where none of these things is possible.

I think the Broke Straight Boys management has done its very best to safeguard their models, which I hope shall suffice; those of us of a more cautious nature have said our piece; and those who require bareback scenes ought just to enjoy their moment. (Though the more percipient among them may have occasion to examine their consciences, also ;-)))

Dear Ambi,

You have written out a wonderfully well though out post that articulates so well all of the points we've touched on, and then some. I have never had the fetish of wanting to see BB sex. BB is what I came of age with in 1980's porn. It was considered normal back then. Unfortunately 1980's porn stars are a very rare breed nowadays...for the simple reason that the vast majority of them are dead. AIDS was a total death sentence back then.

When the industry went with mandatory condoms I was pleased and had no problem adjusting to the new reality as a viewer. I myself don't get a sexual thrill out of BB sex for its own sake. If the models are attractive to me and the scene is well directed...then I will like the scene just as well with condoms.

Having taken a decision that I am so uneasy with, I'm very pleased that mgmt is taking the testing issues very seriously and is going with the more expensive state of the art technology.

Many of us would love to be the hero here. And like Horatio at the Bridge we'd love to singlehandedly fend off the evil army of dangers that BB represents to us. Thereby preserving our peaceful and happy home that we have here. We know the truth though is that BB is now water under the bridge.

While all of the flashing of swords and thrashing about being done here in the forum in defiance of BB serves a noble and useful purpose...because it educates the youth and elder people alike on the dangers...as well as allowing people to vent passionately about the issue...we know that the practical impact on the site will be about as useful as Don Quixote swinging at windmills.

 

[joninliverton]

Well thought out post Ambi, and although I like to watch BB I feel there are other reasons why the site has gone down the BB road, probably to get more members and to guarantee the financial safety of the site. If there is a mixture of BB and condom films then it should please everyone. If you see an upcoming film that is BB then don't watch, just as you don't watch a film which includes a model that you dislike.

 

[tampa24]

As for those of us who are concerned, I suppose we have a choice. I don't think we can turn back the tide. We can: #1 ~ cancel our memberships, out of principle; #2 ~ continue to subscribe, but decline to watch bareback scenes; or, #3 ~ continue to watch the scenes, while encouraging the sites to keep using condoms in as many scenes as possible, and urging the models not to accept bareback assignments.

Mike, I have chosen option #3 (not without a lot of soul-searching and moral conflict) as the most tenable and practical one, from my point of view, recognizing that this is not a perfect world: and believing that testing regimes (carefully and consistently applied) are much, much better than they used to be.

For now, I think Broke Straight Boys is doing the very best they can for their models who choose to bareback, and my hope is, that this testing regime will be effective. I think those of us who believe that condoms are the best protection ought to (GENTLY) keep letting the management know that videos WITH condoms are just as sexy to us (or even more so) than those without; and that we should (GENTLY) keep urging the models we love NOT to do condomless videos. I know that I shall!

I would never be able (in good conscience) to ask a MODEL to have bareback sex, because three seconds of bare insertion looked better to me, than three seconds of insertion, with a clear condom, and a little ring around the bottom of a cock. . .

Deraest Ambi and Mikey,

I've moved my response to your post on another thread. I don't want to ruin a good thread elsewhere by bringing divisiveness to it. So it makes sense to carry on the discussion over here. To start off with a note of levity, I must agree that I also love Travis from that other site.

My condolences on the loss of your drag queen friend who showed you so much kindness when nobody else would. I said a prayer for her after reading your post.

As for the edited section of you post above (and most of it in its entirety)...I have to say that you are right where I am at. I cannot turn back this tide of BB. Since my money is going towards paying for every scene, I won't skip potentially good scenes with models I like. Especially so, if I'm already skipping scenes with models who I don't find entertaining. So the best fit for me is option #3.

Mikey and I have already foreseen a scenario (and which you allude to in your own post) where very popular and much beloved models will attempt BB...and then we'll be freaking out. Then those of us who are strongly counseling some of our favorite models not to do it anymore will look like jerks. We'll open ourselves to accusations of holding a double standard.

Why praise one model's work in a BB scene and then get all uptight or even distraught when a different model does the same thing? After all...which human life is more valuable or disposable than another? Obviously every human life is as valuable as the other--regardless of whether one person's body (or even personality) is more or less attractive than another's based on modern cultural standards in the Western World. But being the flawed human beings that we are...and forced to live in an imperfect world...we will hold double standards sometimes.

BB has opened a whole can of worms. I wish the controversy of BB was going to go away. In the short term at least...it won't. It's the diseases we hate. It's not the BB itself...but the dangers it represents.

 

[Buckeye1]

I also am unable to turn this tide back, but I am not giving up either. As Mike can probably confirm, I am not much into giving up.

I have watched two bareback scenes now, and neither were easy to watch. I love the models but hate the choice they have made in going condomless.

I have decided to deduct 2 rating points from all bareback scenes, regardless of which models are featured, as a protest against this latest policy change. I'm sure my 2 little points will make practically no change in the final rating, but at least I will know that I did something. No bareback scene will ever get a higher rating than a 3 from me.

My favorites will not change....I like who I like. I respect their decision if they choose bareback and will accept their decision. I just don't have to agree with them.

I know this probably seems like next to nothing, but the only way I, as a member, can reward any model is through my rating. It's just my way of not giving up on proven safe sex.

 

[mikeyank]

Mikey and I have already foreseen a scenario (and which you allude to in your own post) where very popular and much beloved models will attempt BB...and then we'll be freaking out. Then those of us who are strongly counseling some of our favorite models not to do it anymore will look like jerks. We'll open ourselves to accusations of holding a double standard.

Why praise one model's work in a BB scene and then get all uptight or even distraught when a different model does the same thing? After all...which human life is more valuable or disposable than another? Obviously every human life is as valuable as the other--regardless of whether one person's body (or even personality) is more or less attractive than another's based on modern cultural standards in the Western World. But being the flawed human beings that we are...and forced to live in an imperfect world...we will hold double standards sometimes.

BB has opened a whole can of worms. I wish the controversy of BB was going to go away. In the short term at least...it won't. It's the diseases we hate. It's not the BB itself...but the dangers it represents.

Yes Tampa, the future scenario that we've discussed involving a very popular, "beloved model" to many of us, participating in a bareback scene will apparently take place, based on the innuendo's of a forumite who apparently has some "inside information", (perhaps even from a model on the site), and I do see the forum freaking out, when that scene is previewed and then when it is released.

I don't see myself as having a double standard on that issue, as I have not praised either of the first two bareback scenes presented here so far. The word I use to describe my feelings viewing those scenes is troubling. The idea of these very young guys performing on this site and "deciding" to get fucked without protection, whether they are offered more money for a "raw" scene than a condom scene or not still troubles me. However as much as I did not like watching Lucas or Tyler do it, if it is a model who I feel a deeper connection with, then it will bother me even more, as if it were a personal friend or a member of my family.