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JLipps4u
BSB Addict
You folks make me laugh speaking about morality on a damned porn site. I don't know if this rates as the epitome of irony, or the epitome of hypocrisy, either way, its pretty fucking ridiculous.
And stowe1, it may be a moot issue to you, but it is not for all of us.
JLipps4u
BSB Addict
That is all real nice and lovely, but these are just TESTS. And tests, are not prevention! While you may utilize the most state of the art testing, once a persons is infected, all that damned testing is not going to make HIV go away! And while HIV may not be an immediate death sentence, as it once was, it is not going to be a day at Disney World! It is going to be a lifetime of struggle!
JLipps4u
BSB Addict
At what cost?? Go on and tell them the rest of the story. Tell them how you have to watch for every disease that comes along because of an already weakened immune system! How you catch and struggle with even the simplest of germs.
Go on and tell them how you pay for your HIV drugs. I take it you have insurance, tell them how expensive your drugs are!
TEll them how family and friends treated you when they found out you had AIDS. TEll them how no one wants to be around you, how people shun you for fear of being contaminated by you.
You could not have survived AIDS for 20 years, without having faced a lot of struggles and hardships. Not unless you are extremely wealthy and even more so surrounded by a completely open and accepting family.
I find it appalling that an AIDS survivor would be so careless and callous as to even imply that bare backing was a legitimate choice. Your comments are the epitome of selfishness. I can't help but think that you must be bitter and want others to share your miserable fate, I can think of no other explanation for an AIDS survivor to condone this choice. With friends like you, who needs enemies!
JLipps4u
BSB Addict
Oh yes! A pillar and fine example of a Jesuit education!
joninliverton
BSB Addict
It's a shame when members get bitter and twisted with each other over a subject such as this. If you have to shoot someone down then you should be having a go at the management and not fellow members. It's getting too personal and nasty.
mikeyank
Long time forumite
The first inkling that I had regarding this new direction coming was when the poster known as "BigSlim" said that bareback was coming. I don't know him or where he got his information, but when the reality set in that this was really coming, I'm not surprised to see it "break up this old gang of mine". Raw fucking without a condom is a very personal issue with many of us, and an issue worth leaving this site over to some. I am troubled but I'm not leaving at this time.
But now, another1 and JLipps4u have told us they are leaving our family over this issue. As Buckeye1, (Robb) asked a few days ago, how many long time forumites are we going to lose over this? I am afraid that this is only the beginning. This all is so sad for me on so many levels.
stowe1
Ye Olde Curmudgeon
The morality has nothing to do with the porn. Whether or not one considers porn moral or immoral depends on your belief system. I would presume that anyone who considers porn immoral wouldn't be on this site in the first place, unless he or she is spying on people or getting ammunition for the likes of Westboro Baptist Church. No, JLipps what you seem not to understand is that when you are in a position of authority and you are placing a situation before someone and asking them to choose, you have a moral obligation to make sure they have the necessary information to inform their intellect so they can make a free will choice as to what they will do.
With respect to the issue's "mootness", that is why I said "As far as I'm concerned". Obviously, it isn't for you and that's what is great about free speech and this forum!
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stowe1
Ye Olde Curmudgeon
Dear JLipps - I can't help but feel that you are projecting your own experiences or the experiences of someone you know on me. You do not know me yet you are attributing all sorts of things to me and my life. Over the course of my time on the forum, I have talked about my journey as an AIDS survivor and am not going to go over all that again, certainly not in response to this distasteful post. I could lower myself to the level of name calling and false assumptions you have employed, but I will not.
On this issue, many things have been written. But none have employed the "ad hominem" attacks used by you. I knew that another1 has said he is leaving and I will miss him. You, not at all.
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Ms. Kianna
BSB Addict
I agree, Mikey. I am still choosing not to share my personal viewpoint on the forum, partly because of what the whole issue is doing to everyone. I don't want to see anyone leave this crazy thing we call our forum family. I just wish we could hit rewind, and remeber the love.
richardnoggin869
Well-known Member
The Barebacking Shitstorm
After a few days and reading the numerous posts regarding the need to have the models bareback, I thought I would post a few thoughts from my loose-leaf notebook of a mind. These are random thoughts and of course a personal opinion without all the name calling, justifying, hand wringing and whatever else you want to call it.
I belong to a very small cadre of Forumites that joined the Forum in its infancy. I joined in October of 2008. Those were the days, not unlike now, where everyone had an opinion and stated it and defended it with vigor. Many members have come and gone, some were missed, some were not. Slim Vintage was my absolute favorite member. Charm, wit, with a rapier retort that could slice you to pieces with a smile. I have noticed over the years, the small cadre of "originals" has mellowed and some have even thought about their posts before hitting the enter button.
But I digress....I would like to comment on the Blue Media statement, on a point by point basis so I can keep myself focused on my post.
BluMedia has and will continue to be a family-oriented company. Our staffing teams in conjunction with each of our models review every decision that we make very carefully including those related to the health and well-being of our Broke Straight Boys
Our recent decision to offer bareback was not taken lightly. Since our debut, the request to offer condom-free scenes have been frequent but the volume of requests has soared in the last 18 months. Initially, we resisted the urge to “give the customer what they want”. Such a big decision warranted abundant consideration, ample research and careful planning. For the last six months, we have been completing due diligence to see if a method existed to provide this type of content in a responsible manner.
Broke Straight Boys in all its versions has always been a niche market. The unsuspecting newbie, with the promise of big cash for doing things he may or may not have thought about was exciting. We got to watch the progression of acts and for maybe 20 minutes or so had a chance to be the fly on the wall as the model went through his paces. The models were raw. They weren't worldly by any stretch of the imagination, but the specter of big cash always seemed to overcome the basic inhibitions. So in that regard, I have to ask myself, why wasn't the decision to offer bareback given to another Blue Media site that does feature a more experienced model that has grown up a bit. The actions on that site are very slick compared to Broke Straight Boys I'm sure that decision to have the models bareback would have been better received.
First and foremost, we will continue to offer scenes featuring condoms and our models will always be given the option, without penalty, to use a condom in their scenes. Models are made aware of the substantial risks associated with bareback sex. Everyone from the owner to the newest models understands that HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are very real and potentially lethal.
The safety of our boys is very important to us, and we will always take the necessary precautions to make sure they stay free of HIV and other STDs. Broke Straight Boys who have decided to participate in our bareback scenes are tested within three days of their performance and receive a full blood panel test by the leading testing company in the industry. The test is comprehensive and covers a range of diseases including HIV, syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. The standard test used by the industry is the 30-day antibody test. We, however, have opted to use a more sensitive test which will show HIV antibodies in the models system within the last seven days.
Of course the safety of the models should be paramount, from the top stud muffin to the newest bottom boy....but, shouldn't these practices have already been in place to doubly insure the safety of the models, without adding the bareback factor? A lot of these models from the new Broke Straight Boys came off as street trade. The Forum noted it in their comments and the personel has changed. The testing whatever the cost, should not.
The scenes presented should only be used for fantasy and members should not deceive themselves into thinking that "everyone is doing it." Further, no one should assume that just because you see photos or film content of barebacking that sexually transmitted diseases have been miraculously cured. HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are very real and potentially lethal. Please practice safe sex in your own life and educate yourself regarding the dangers of not wearing a condom before having sexual encounters. Visit AMFAR for more information about safer sex.
We respect the fact that not all of our customers will be supportive in this decision and we will continue to offer scenes with condoms for those that prefer to view our product this way
We, and I use that term as the imperial we, do practice safe sex. I would not think for a moment that I was bullet proof. I've had my share of shots in the ass for STDS and was gratefull that thats all it took to get rid of it. I have seen pieces of ass I would kill for, but none that I would die for.
What makes the barebacking issue so decisive or divisive is Broke Straight Boys You gave us the Forum, you encouraged the models to log on and interact with us, you put the models on tour at Pride events where we met them personally. Yes, you Broke Straight Boys, gave us a vested interest in the models. Some of us have become mentally and emotionally attached to these young men, and to see them, under whatever name you want to call it, start to bareback is an effront to our sensibilties. It isn't necessary to fulfill our fantasies, mentally or emotionally with barebacking. We all know what its about.
There are many, many sites that offer bareback and I can watch these at no charge. The reason why I watch these sites is because I'm not invested in any of the models. I don't know them and consequently the mental emotional bond is not there.
If you feel interest is waning at Broke Straight Boys, listen to your customers. Dual jackoff scenes, 3-way suck and fucks to name a couple. I mention this because it has been mentioned on the Forum in the past. Spicing it up does not mean barebacking. Scenes in order, more BTS, and certainly an upgrade in professionalism. A new sofa and bed doesn't cut it, even if it is black and red. In retrospect, think about why you got rid of Dave and the changes you've made. The new changes should be rethought, not only on behalf of the members of the Forum, but the safe sex mantra that has been drummed into these impressionable young men. Some of whom I feel are going to make bad or unsafe decisions.
So....that is how I feel and in that regard I don't feel I can support Broke Straight Boys any longer. I will cancel my membership as my humble protest to a change that I feel is not in the best interest of the models nor is it in my best interest.
Sincerely,
Richard Noggin aka dickhead aka Mike
[email protected]
After a few days and reading the numerous posts regarding the need to have the models bareback, I thought I would post a few thoughts from my loose-leaf notebook of a mind. These are random thoughts and of course a personal opinion without all the name calling, justifying, hand wringing and whatever else you want to call it.
I belong to a very small cadre of Forumites that joined the Forum in its infancy. I joined in October of 2008. Those were the days, not unlike now, where everyone had an opinion and stated it and defended it with vigor. Many members have come and gone, some were missed, some were not. Slim Vintage was my absolute favorite member. Charm, wit, with a rapier retort that could slice you to pieces with a smile. I have noticed over the years, the small cadre of "originals" has mellowed and some have even thought about their posts before hitting the enter button.
But I digress....I would like to comment on the Blue Media statement, on a point by point basis so I can keep myself focused on my post.
BluMedia has and will continue to be a family-oriented company. Our staffing teams in conjunction with each of our models review every decision that we make very carefully including those related to the health and well-being of our Broke Straight Boys
Our recent decision to offer bareback was not taken lightly. Since our debut, the request to offer condom-free scenes have been frequent but the volume of requests has soared in the last 18 months. Initially, we resisted the urge to “give the customer what they want”. Such a big decision warranted abundant consideration, ample research and careful planning. For the last six months, we have been completing due diligence to see if a method existed to provide this type of content in a responsible manner.
Broke Straight Boys in all its versions has always been a niche market. The unsuspecting newbie, with the promise of big cash for doing things he may or may not have thought about was exciting. We got to watch the progression of acts and for maybe 20 minutes or so had a chance to be the fly on the wall as the model went through his paces. The models were raw. They weren't worldly by any stretch of the imagination, but the specter of big cash always seemed to overcome the basic inhibitions. So in that regard, I have to ask myself, why wasn't the decision to offer bareback given to another Blue Media site that does feature a more experienced model that has grown up a bit. The actions on that site are very slick compared to Broke Straight Boys I'm sure that decision to have the models bareback would have been better received.
First and foremost, we will continue to offer scenes featuring condoms and our models will always be given the option, without penalty, to use a condom in their scenes. Models are made aware of the substantial risks associated with bareback sex. Everyone from the owner to the newest models understands that HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are very real and potentially lethal.
The safety of our boys is very important to us, and we will always take the necessary precautions to make sure they stay free of HIV and other STDs. Broke Straight Boys who have decided to participate in our bareback scenes are tested within three days of their performance and receive a full blood panel test by the leading testing company in the industry. The test is comprehensive and covers a range of diseases including HIV, syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. The standard test used by the industry is the 30-day antibody test. We, however, have opted to use a more sensitive test which will show HIV antibodies in the models system within the last seven days.
Of course the safety of the models should be paramount, from the top stud muffin to the newest bottom boy....but, shouldn't these practices have already been in place to doubly insure the safety of the models, without adding the bareback factor? A lot of these models from the new Broke Straight Boys came off as street trade. The Forum noted it in their comments and the personel has changed. The testing whatever the cost, should not.
The scenes presented should only be used for fantasy and members should not deceive themselves into thinking that "everyone is doing it." Further, no one should assume that just because you see photos or film content of barebacking that sexually transmitted diseases have been miraculously cured. HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are very real and potentially lethal. Please practice safe sex in your own life and educate yourself regarding the dangers of not wearing a condom before having sexual encounters. Visit AMFAR for more information about safer sex.
We respect the fact that not all of our customers will be supportive in this decision and we will continue to offer scenes with condoms for those that prefer to view our product this way
We, and I use that term as the imperial we, do practice safe sex. I would not think for a moment that I was bullet proof. I've had my share of shots in the ass for STDS and was gratefull that thats all it took to get rid of it. I have seen pieces of ass I would kill for, but none that I would die for.
What makes the barebacking issue so decisive or divisive is Broke Straight Boys You gave us the Forum, you encouraged the models to log on and interact with us, you put the models on tour at Pride events where we met them personally. Yes, you Broke Straight Boys, gave us a vested interest in the models. Some of us have become mentally and emotionally attached to these young men, and to see them, under whatever name you want to call it, start to bareback is an effront to our sensibilties. It isn't necessary to fulfill our fantasies, mentally or emotionally with barebacking. We all know what its about.
There are many, many sites that offer bareback and I can watch these at no charge. The reason why I watch these sites is because I'm not invested in any of the models. I don't know them and consequently the mental emotional bond is not there.
If you feel interest is waning at Broke Straight Boys, listen to your customers. Dual jackoff scenes, 3-way suck and fucks to name a couple. I mention this because it has been mentioned on the Forum in the past. Spicing it up does not mean barebacking. Scenes in order, more BTS, and certainly an upgrade in professionalism. A new sofa and bed doesn't cut it, even if it is black and red. In retrospect, think about why you got rid of Dave and the changes you've made. The new changes should be rethought, not only on behalf of the members of the Forum, but the safe sex mantra that has been drummed into these impressionable young men. Some of whom I feel are going to make bad or unsafe decisions.
So....that is how I feel and in that regard I don't feel I can support Broke Straight Boys any longer. I will cancel my membership as my humble protest to a change that I feel is not in the best interest of the models nor is it in my best interest.
Sincerely,
Richard Noggin aka dickhead aka Mike
[email protected]
Hear, hear Sha! haha I consider all of you guys in Blu as well as my forum friends to be part of an extended family of sorts for me. I was honored to meet you in person and will be thrilled when the opportunity presents itself again. I know very well what you mean about Broke Straight Boys being a family. The interaction and level of caring you had for Diesal when he was in your care was quite touching to witness. The way Diesal intuitively and automatically stepped up in a protective big brother role to make Cousin Mikey feel safe and more comfortable in a new setting, in a city far from home, was also quite heartwarming and sweet.
You always set the tone that you care about the models and respect them as individuals. You do your utmost to make them feel safe and secure when they are with you. That way they can enjoy the experience of the travel and meeting fans, greeting people in the general public far from home...all without the distractions that you are taking care of for them. You set that tone so well that while you are doing that for them...they in turn are doing the same for each other by rallying behind the newer or shyer models within the group. It's such a wonderful dynamic because everyone feels that the other has their back. Every time you go on the road you have a "family".
Thank you for that Sha!
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mikeyank
Long time forumite
I am very sorry to see you go "Richard", but I certainly understand your reasons and will miss you, as I miss Slim and Jayman and many of the "old gang" that formed the original core of this marvelous invention of Mark's, called the Forum. It is all so very sad to me.
joninliverton
BSB Addict
For the record Slim and Jayman did not leave because of the barebacking. It is a pity that some people are leaving but it is their choice, as it was mine at the start of BSB2. I think for many it will be a case of Auf Wiedersehen as opposed to goodbye.
Well said Mikey. It will be a shame to see so many of our friends leave. Richard being one of several. Perhaps as Jon says, over time hopefully some will change their minds about leaving at all...or decide to come back from self-imposed exile.
juanjo
BSB Addict
Life is about risk. We all know that. Each of us every day take risks. When you drive a car on the freeway for example, there is a risk which each of us weights in terms of the possible benefits doing so brings into our live. In my work I have often used epidemiologists who testify as to the risks associated to certain activities.
To be clear I am delighted that the Broke Straight Boys management has taken very specific steps to ensure that their models are completely vetted before being allowed to perform bareback sex. I believe them when they say they have concerns about the safety of their models. I believe them when they speak of family. But on any of those tests there is a margin of error. I know this well. In my legal practice if I representing someone on a legal issue whether civil or criminal, the first question I ask the medical expert is about the margin of error on any tests performed. But I do have some questions. I understand that there is now a medication available for high risk individuals and people doing bareback would certainly be in the category of high risk to further reduce the rick of becoming infected with HIV. Has management considered whether to offer that medication to its models who are engaging in bareback for the period while they are doing bareback scenes? If not, have they at least informed the models of its existence and how they could obtain it if they so wished prior to doing bareback? In addition if a model were to sero-convert as a result of performing in a bareback scene, does the management intend to assist them in obtaining the necessary medical treatment and if so will the management cover the costs of that treatment? If not has management informed them of this and possibly informed them of what steps they might be able to take to ensure they do have medical coverage in place in case the unthinkable does occur?
Similarly if one does become HIV+ the attendant medical issues involved are many. I am given to understand that some of the models "did not bat an eye" at being asked to do this. That is all well and good as it stands but that does not tell me whether they had any real understanding of what it was they were being asked to do and the attendant risks and consequences associated with doing the bareback scenes.
I understand that we are speaking of young adults who are certainly old enough legally, morally and ethically to make their own decisions. I have had never had the pleasure of meeting any of the Broke Straight Boys models personally as some have. I hope that some day I do have that pleasure. But at this point I cannot assess what their respective levels of maturity and life experience are as individual persons sufficiently to be comfortable with the idea that they made a knowing decision based upon all the variables.
Those of us who have been around long enough and have friends and family [or perhaps are ourselves HIV+ are aware of the medical issues involved. The regular doctor visits and blood work. The medicines that must be taken according to a strict regimen else the medicine become ineffective, the costs in time and money of complying with the medical advice, the side effects of both the medicine and the disease process which can be mild or severe depending on the person. The effects of long term use of these meds in terms of increased risks of diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, neuropathy and other medical issues. These are not things to be taken lightly.
I know some people have expressed their support of the decision, some have like me expressed their concerns, others have announced they were leaving because of the decision. Ethics and morality are complex issues but they exist in all facets of life including those who model for, those who produce and those who pay to watch on porn sites. I would not dismiss that fact lightly. Being concerned about the well being of the models for whatever reasons is not a question of political correctness nor is it a matter which is subject to a popularity contest based on the number of votes a given sex scene received simply because it was a bareback scene.
As I have said previously I am of two minds about these events. As yet I cannot decide what I am going to do personally. But I have expressed my concerns.
To be clear I am delighted that the Broke Straight Boys management has taken very specific steps to ensure that their models are completely vetted before being allowed to perform bareback sex. I believe them when they say they have concerns about the safety of their models. I believe them when they speak of family. But on any of those tests there is a margin of error. I know this well. In my legal practice if I representing someone on a legal issue whether civil or criminal, the first question I ask the medical expert is about the margin of error on any tests performed. But I do have some questions. I understand that there is now a medication available for high risk individuals and people doing bareback would certainly be in the category of high risk to further reduce the rick of becoming infected with HIV. Has management considered whether to offer that medication to its models who are engaging in bareback for the period while they are doing bareback scenes? If not, have they at least informed the models of its existence and how they could obtain it if they so wished prior to doing bareback? In addition if a model were to sero-convert as a result of performing in a bareback scene, does the management intend to assist them in obtaining the necessary medical treatment and if so will the management cover the costs of that treatment? If not has management informed them of this and possibly informed them of what steps they might be able to take to ensure they do have medical coverage in place in case the unthinkable does occur?
Similarly if one does become HIV+ the attendant medical issues involved are many. I am given to understand that some of the models "did not bat an eye" at being asked to do this. That is all well and good as it stands but that does not tell me whether they had any real understanding of what it was they were being asked to do and the attendant risks and consequences associated with doing the bareback scenes.
I understand that we are speaking of young adults who are certainly old enough legally, morally and ethically to make their own decisions. I have had never had the pleasure of meeting any of the Broke Straight Boys models personally as some have. I hope that some day I do have that pleasure. But at this point I cannot assess what their respective levels of maturity and life experience are as individual persons sufficiently to be comfortable with the idea that they made a knowing decision based upon all the variables.
Those of us who have been around long enough and have friends and family [or perhaps are ourselves HIV+ are aware of the medical issues involved. The regular doctor visits and blood work. The medicines that must be taken according to a strict regimen else the medicine become ineffective, the costs in time and money of complying with the medical advice, the side effects of both the medicine and the disease process which can be mild or severe depending on the person. The effects of long term use of these meds in terms of increased risks of diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, neuropathy and other medical issues. These are not things to be taken lightly.
I know some people have expressed their support of the decision, some have like me expressed their concerns, others have announced they were leaving because of the decision. Ethics and morality are complex issues but they exist in all facets of life including those who model for, those who produce and those who pay to watch on porn sites. I would not dismiss that fact lightly. Being concerned about the well being of the models for whatever reasons is not a question of political correctness nor is it a matter which is subject to a popularity contest based on the number of votes a given sex scene received simply because it was a bareback scene.
As I have said previously I am of two minds about these events. As yet I cannot decide what I am going to do personally. But I have expressed my concerns.
I don't want to see anyone leave this crazy thing we call our forum family. I just wish we could hit rewind, and remember the love.
I still feel the love for everyone. And I hope you all know that. Including of course those who are leaving or considering it.
I have read most of the posts on this subject and although I personally enjoy watching bareback sex and cum dripping out of a fantastic asshole I believe the decision is a poor one. I take risks myself. I love to rim and swallow, but in this case these younger adults should be protected as much as possible and at all costs. Although you could never prove it, or at least it would be hard, if one of our cuties got HIV after barbacking I think me might all question our selfish carnal desires.
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