another1.. Tell us..

[louis33705]

It's like they are handed a script Talk. Kiss (loudly) suck a little, fuck a little.Were done chop chop lets shower and eat. Don't want them to think were gay.lol
No thank you no kiss. No hand shake. I mean I just fucked you lets eat.HA HA it was funny. Felt different.
At least Tanner is a Gentleman he gives you a towel. And I hope Zeno Kostas gets paid a little more for using his imagination.
Cause the director is not using his. But that is Broke Straight Boys now. Pretty bottom of the barrel.

You post reminds me of the old expression, "Slam, Bam, thank you mam!"

 

[another1]

as a long term fan of porn, I have some thoughts on what is being said in this thread.
formula porn can get boring. a small number of return models and a small number of new models limits mixing and matching.
take the most recent session. five return models and two new models. each of the five models will appear with the two new models.
each will kiss, suck, and fuck the two new models. the kissing is designed for the guys in the cheap seats. after the sucking comes the cowgirl position, then doggie, then on your side, and then ankles on shoulder. cum and go. no kissing while fucking, can't think about stay hard and kiss at the same time. wham, bam, thank you, m'am!
throwing the money at the models hurt Broke Straight Boys!
clay's directing style hurt Broke Straight Boys!
it has never been the same since.
the big recession hurt Broke Straight Boys!
Skype hurt Broke Straight Boys!

 

[johnny]

as a long term fan of porn, I have some thoughts on what is being said in this thread.
formula porn can get boring. a small number of return models and a small number of new models limits mixing and matching.
take the most recent session. five return models and two new models. each of the five models will appear with the two new models.
each will kiss, suck, and fuck the two new models. the kissing is designed for the guys in the cheap seats. after the sucking comes the cowgirl position, then doggie, then on your side, and then ankles on shoulder. cum and go. no kissing while fucking, can't think about stay hard and kiss at the same time. wham, bam, thank you, m'am!
throwing the money at the models hurt Broke Straight Boys!
clay's directing style hurt Broke Straight Boys!
it has never been the same since.
the big recession hurt Broke Straight Boys!
Skype hurt Broke Straight Boys!

Thank You another1
You explain things like no other. Read your lines one by one.You make so much sense. Broke Straight Boys is hurting. Glad your here with us.

 

[peterh6308]

I agree with most of what Another1 in that the regular formula for Broke Straight Boys was lost with Clay. But with Clay came the better looking models who most members crave for now ie: PC, Damien Kyle, Johnny, Ayden, Rocco, Brandon etc. If we had gone from David's era (bsb1) to now the models wouldn't have changed that much in looks, just the fucking and open gay is out there now.

 

[johnny]

I agree with most of what Another1 in that the regular formula for Broke Straight Boys was lost with Clay. But with Clay came the better looking models who most members crave for now ie: PC, Damien Kyle, Johnny, Ayden, Rocco, Brandon etc. If we had gone from David's era (bsb1) to now the models wouldn't have changed that much in looks, just the fucking and open gay is out there now.

I get so confused between BSB1 2 3 4..All the boy's you talk of were here. When I came. But I was not on the forum.
For about six months. What Broke Straight Boys are we in now?? Those were my favorite boy's.That was a great time.Just Saying.

 

[mikeyank]

Thank You another1
You explain things like no other. Read your lines one by one.You make so much sense. Broke Straight Boys is hurting. Glad your here with us.

I agree Johnny that another1 has made an excellent analysis of describing the state of Broke Straight Boys from"what was" to "what is" and I'm sure glad that he is here with us as well.

 

[mikeyank]

I agree with most of what Another1 in that the regular formula for Broke Straight Boys was lost with Clay. But with Clay came the better looking models who most members crave for now ie: PC, Damien Kyle, Johnny, Ayden, Rocco, Brandon etc. If we had gone from David's era (bsb1) to now the models wouldn't have changed that much in looks, just the fucking and open gay is out there now.

Please don't forget Bobby from Clay's era of BSB2, and as you know Peter, I disagree with you as I think that David also had some classic beautiful boys to my way of thinking, including Shane,(the original now called "Tank", Logan, Alden, (from Alden & Robert), Jordan, and young Mike Robbins, but as has been said for centuries, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

 

[mikeyank]

I get so confused between BSB1 2 3 4..All the boy's you talk of were here. When I came. But I was not on the forum.
For about six months. What Broke Straight Boys are we in now?? Those were my favorite boy's.That was a great time.Just Saying.

Broke Straight Boys-1 was everything filmed by David & Eddie in Florida on the futon. Broke Straight Boys-2 was the stark contrast when Clay was brought in to change things up. I agree that after that initial blowing up of the format, it's hard to see a clear enumeration of Broke Straight Boys-3,4,5, or whatever, as Clay turned into Johnny Robbins, into Damian Christopher into our current team of Bryce & Sha. But I don't necessarily blame management or the directors. As both Juanjo and another1 clearly stated the whole nature of the business has changed due to the factors mentioned above.

Just as "Old Hollywood" will never be back, neither will "Classic Broke Straight Boys". Life keeps changing and not always for the best, but we have Turner Classic Movies and the Broke Straight Boys archives for us fans of nostalgia. lol

 

[tampa24]

I agree with most of what Another1 in that the regular formula for Broke Straight Boys was lost with Clay. But with Clay came the better looking models who most members crave for now ie: PC, Damien Kyle, Johnny, Ayden, Rocco, Brandon etc.

And Colin!

 

[tampa24]

Broke Straight Boys-1 was everything filmed by David & Eddie in Florida on the futon. Broke Straight Boys-2 was the stark contrast when Clay was brought in to change things up. I agree that after that initial blowing up of the format, it's hard to see a clear enumeration of Broke Straight Boys-3,4,5, or whatever, as Clay turned into Johnny Robbins, into Damian Christopher into our current team of Bryce & Sha. But I don't necessarily blame management or the directors. As both Juanjo and another1 clearly stated the whole nature of the business has changed due to the factors mentioned above.

Just as "Old Hollywood" will never be back, neither will "Classic Broke Straight Boys". Life keeps changing and not always for the best, but we have Turner Classic Movies and the Broke Straight Boys archives for us fans of nostalgia. lol

That's all true enough also Mikey. As much as we may feel like griping about the changes from the way things used to be... Those times are not coming back. The internet landscape has changed. Societal attitudes have changed. (For the better mostly) But the days when straight guys applying here had the expectation, or at least a somewhat realistic hope, that nobody in their family or circle of friends would find out, are long gone. So that pool of potential models, while not completely dry, has shrunk considerably. Even nominally straight fet sites like Broke Straight Boys are forced to hire more and more openly bi and gay models just to survive and produce new content.

 

[another1]

I agree with most of what Another1 in that the regular formula for Broke Straight Boys was lost with Clay. But with Clay came the better looking models who most members crave for now ie: PC, Damien Kyle, Johnny, Ayden, Rocco, Brandon etc. If we had gone from David's era (bsb1) to now the models wouldn't have changed that much in looks, just the fucking and open gay is out there now.

I think any director would have selected the models you named. that is the models were not clay specific.
a quick review of where we are.
mark put out a request for proposals and david came back with paying Broke Straight Boys to have sex with each other idea. (some say the idea came from amateur straight boys). right out the gate d & e productions and blumedia had a hit with Broke Straight Boys the site became one of the top ranked site. that continued for six years. one of the big problems that arose was that david like to produce in bulk. the backlog was so great that without producing any more scenes there were enough scene to last until april of 2011. more direct control of the production schedule was a driving force in making a change.
mark bought a production studio and kept the production staff. clay started producing Broke Straight Boys scenes. his presentation was unimpressive. I never found him to be a good fit. whether the throw me the money thing came from clay or was part of a greater plan, it didn't work very well. by july, 2011, the once top 10 site dropped to the top 100. I read that data to suggest that it took 3 months for people to realize how much had changed. during the first months, there were more 2.0 scenes than 4.0 scenes. you know that pony ride outside of stores? david was like a rodeo ride and clay more like that pony ride. the camera work, the lighting, and sound left much to be desired.
more change and johnny became the director. two studios with separate schedules became too much. and more change.
while many people don't like him, damian turned out of the best scenes in have seen, in Zeno Kostas and ian scene. he is very good with a camera. better suited to art production than porn. more change.
and change bring us to now.
the holy roman empire was neither holy, nor roman! the name reminds you of greater past.

 

[mikeyank]

I think any director would have selected the models you named. that is the models were not clay specific.
a quick review of where we are.
mark put out a request for proposals and david came back with paying Broke Straight Boys to have sex with each other idea. (some say the idea came from amateur straight boys). right out the gate d & e productions and blumedia had a hit with Broke Straight Boys the site became one of the top ranked site. that continued for six years. one of the big problems that arose was that david like to produce in bulk. the backlog was so great that without producing any more scenes there were enough scene to last until april of 2011. more direct control of the production schedule was a driving force in making a change.
mark bought a production studio and kept the production staff. clay started producing Broke Straight Boys scenes. his presentation was unimpressive. I never found him to be a good fit. whether the throw me the money thing came from clay or was part of a greater plan, it didn't work very well. by july, 2011, the once top 10 site dropped to the top 100. I read that data to suggest that it took 3 months for people to realize how much had changed. during the first months, there were more 2.0 scenes than 4.0 scenes. you know that pony ride outside of stores? david was like a rodeo ride and clay more like that pony ride. the camera work, the lighting, and sound left much to be desired.
more change and johnny became the director. two studios with separate schedules became too much. and more change.
while many people don't like him, damian turned out of the best scenes in have seen, in Zeno Kostas and ian scene. he is very good with a camera. better suited to art production than porn. more change.
and change bring us to now.
the holy roman empire was neither holy, nor roman! the name reminds you of greater past.

Wow! That is quite a post another1. I need to go into the office now, but I will re-read and digest what you just said when I have more time. As Broke Straight Boys and the forum and the history of the site are one of my favorite pastimes, I definitely need to get back to this most interesting and informative post.

Mark has always been very open about letting us speak out peace here, I hope we are not touching on any sensitive topics and touching any nerves that we shouldn't, but this is a most fascinating topic and post to me.

More later.

 

[peterh6308]

I think any director would have selected the models you named. that is the models were not clay specific.
a quick review of where we are.
mark put out a request for proposals and david came back with paying Broke Straight Boys to have sex with each other idea. (some say the idea came from amateur straight boys). right out the gate d & e productions and blumedia had a hit with Broke Straight Boys the site became one of the top ranked site. that continued for six years. one of the big problems that arose was that david like to produce in bulk. the backlog was so great that without producing any more scenes there were enough scene to last until april of 2011. more direct control of the production schedule was a driving force in making a change.
mark bought a production studio and kept the production staff. clay started producing Broke Straight Boys scenes. his presentation was unimpressive. I never found him to be a good fit. whether the throw me the money thing came from clay or was part of a greater plan, it didn't work very well. by july, 2011, the once top 10 site dropped to the top 100. I read that data to suggest that it took 3 months for people to realize how much had changed. during the first months, there were more 2.0 scenes than 4.0 scenes. you know that pony ride outside of stores? david was like a rodeo ride and clay more like that pony ride. the camera work, the lighting, and sound left much to be desired.
more change and johnny became the director. two studios with separate schedules became too much. and more change.
while many people don't like him, damian turned out of the best scenes in have seen, in Zeno Kostas and ian scene. he is very good with a camera. better suited to art production than porn. more change.
and change bring us to now.
the holy roman empire was neither holy, nor roman! the name reminds you of greater past.

I disagree!!! Clay did bring in the better looking models. If you go through the catalog of College Dudes when Clay owned it and while he still shot the scenes for Broke Straight Boys the models were way better looking than what David had. David has agreed with this!! The premise of the site I agree was getting lost and here we are now. What I said in my last post was with the exception of a few of the pretty boys, the majority of the current models would have fit right in during BSB1.

 

[another1]

I just believe that anybody fishing the same stream would/could have hooked those fish. maybe clay brought in hotter models, he did not bring out the best performances.
I think model selection may have improved as a result of direct involvement of mark and sha! owning a production studio, you control schedules, and selection of models.
combined taste was better than david's. I say david was a better director than clay!

 

[peterh6308]

I just believe that anybody fishing the same stream would/could have hooked those fish. maybe clay brought in hotter models, he did not bring out the best performances.
I think model selection may have improved as a result of direct involvement of mark and sha! owning a production studio, you control schedules, and selection of models.
combined taste was better than david's. I say david was a better director than clay!

David was a better director by far and I liked him way better. Clay was sleazy to me and he confirms that on his new site. I liked Johnny when he was here and feel he was let go too soon...

 

[tampa24]

David was a better director by far and I liked him way better. Clay was sleazy to me and he confirms that on his new site. I liked Johnny when he was here and feel he was let go too soon...

Clay's beginning scenes here were pretty horrible. I had no idea he was an experienced professional director. Let alone that that he also directed College Dudes I was floored to find out that he directed College Dudes at the same time as Broke Straight Boys I had assumed for about a year that he was a newbie to directing porn. After the first 8 months he finally found a groove and the quality of the scenes improved. As we know now in hindsight though, Clay had other agendas while he was here beyond making good scenes. As you say Peter, the concept of Clay's new site confirms this.

 

[johnny]

Maybe I just think everything was better a few years ago? We just had another shooting here in California. 20 killed maybe?
Just seemed like this didn't happen every week.
This is not the same thing at all.But whatever or whoever we sure had some Hot Beautiful Models when I first joined.
Picking have become very slim..

 

[another1]

in the old days there were state institutions where families could place the mentally ill. the definition of mentally ill was always up for debate. to save money these institutions were closed. the idea became that keeping people in the community was better than locking them away. off meds, the trend is toward anti-social behavior. so we lock them away in prisons. guarding them become a big business. being unstable with a gun is a real problem.

 

[stowe1]

I think any director would have selected the models you named. that is the models were not clay specific.
a quick review of where we are.
mark put out a request for proposals and david came back with paying Broke Straight Boys to have sex with each other idea. (some say the idea came from amateur straight boys). right out the gate d & e productions and blumedia had a hit with Broke Straight Boys the site became one of the top ranked site. that continued for six years. one of the big problems that arose was that david like to produce in bulk. the backlog was so great that without producing any more scenes there were enough scene to last until april of 2011. more direct control of the production schedule was a driving force in making a change.
mark bought a production studio and kept the production staff. clay started producing Broke Straight Boys scenes. his presentation was unimpressive. I never found him to be a good fit. whether the throw me the money thing came from clay or was part of a greater plan, it didn't work very well. by july, 2011, the once top 10 site dropped to the top 100. I read that data to suggest that it took 3 months for people to realize how much had changed. during the first months, there were more 2.0 scenes than 4.0 scenes. you know that pony ride outside of stores? david was like a rodeo ride and clay more like that pony ride. the camera work, the lighting, and sound left much to be desired.
more change and johnny became the director. two studios with separate schedules became too much. and more change.
while many people don't like him, damian turned out of the best scenes in have seen, in Zeno Kostas and ian scene. he is very good with a camera. better suited to art production than porn. more change.
and change bring us to now.
the holy roman empire was neither holy, nor roman! the name reminds you of greater past.

First. let me state up front so you and others know that my questions are not to challenge anything you have written.

But how do you know all this? You have written some things which seem to me can only derive from intimate knowledge of some aspects of the site's business. Did you ever have an business or financial interest in Broke Straight Boys? Is Mark a friend who would have shared any of this with you? If not, how did you conduct your research. I just find all this very fascinating. Thanks for the history.

 

[mikeyank]

I think any director would have selected the models you named. that is the models were not clay specific.
a quick review of where we are.
mark put out a request for proposals and david came back with paying Broke Straight Boys to have sex with each other idea. (some say the idea came from amateur straight boys). right out the gate d & e productions and blumedia had a hit with Broke Straight Boys the site became one of the top ranked site. that continued for six years. one of the big problems that arose was that david like to produce in bulk. the backlog was so great that without producing any more scenes there were enough scene to last until april of 2011. more direct control of the production schedule was a driving force in making a change.
mark bought a production studio and kept the production staff. clay started producing Broke Straight Boys scenes. his presentation was unimpressive. I never found him to be a good fit. whether the throw me the money thing came from clay or was part of a greater plan, it didn't work very well. by july, 2011, the once top 10 site dropped to the top 100. I read that data to suggest that it took 3 months for people to realize how much had changed. during the first months, there were more 2.0 scenes than 4.0 scenes. you know that pony ride outside of stores? david was like a rodeo ride and clay more like that pony ride. the camera work, the lighting, and sound left much to be desired.
more change and johnny became the director. two studios with separate schedules became too much. and more change.
while many people don't like him, damian turned out of the best scenes in have seen, in Zeno Kostas and ian scene. he is very good with a camera. better suited to art production than porn. more change.
and change bring us to now.
the holy roman empire was neither holy, nor roman! the name reminds you of greater past.

First. let me state up front so you and others know that my questions are not to challenge anything you have written.

But how do you know all this? You have written some things which seem to me can only derive from intimate knowledge of some aspects of the site's business. Did you ever have an business or financial interest in Broke Straight Boys? Is Mark a friend who would have shared any of this with you? If not, how did you conduct your research. I just find all this very fascinating. Thanks for the history.

Actually some of another1's information can be proven accurate as Mark told us that "amateur straight boys" was his first site and it was a dream of his to create a site like Broke Straight Boys, He met David and as David has told us on another platform, they worked beautifully together in the early years producing Mark's vision. We also know that Mark did buy Clay's company College Dudes and hired him to produce and direct Broke Straight Boys as well.

I am curious as you are Stowe to find out where another1 gets his information that Broke Straight Boys dropped from a top 10 site to a top 100 site and where in the top 100 did it fall to? This is all very interesting to me, " Mr. Super Yenta". lol