betudidntknow
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What's your opinion? Not what one's ideal fantasy definition, but what by yours or even Webster's definition is a Straight Guy? Would he do gay porn?
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What Constitutes a Straight Guy doing Gay Porn?
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mikeyank
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I checked several definitions of the word "straight" being used in a sexual sense and the one I found that makes the most sense is:
"straight certainly means “exclusively attracted to the opposite sex.”
That is why as I've said over and over again here that no truly straight guy is going to perform on a gay porn site such as this one, unless they only do a solo or perhaps let another guy suck their dick, but that too is stretching their identity as being 100% straight.
But that being said, the "straighter" guys who've performed here over the years, i.e., Diesal, Tank Shane, Johnny Forza, Adam Baer, Ayden Troy and the like have most probably lived the straight lifestyle prior to coming to work for Broke Straight Boys They identify as being straight, having relationships with females but they all have to have a "curiosity" or at least a part of themselves that are also sexually interested in gay sex. If not, they would not be able to perform sexually here and certainly not over and over again. The "straighter" guys who do gay porn are either a Kinsey 1 or a Kinsey 2 in my opinion.
I checked several definitions of the word "straight" being used in a sexual sense and the one I found that makes the most sense is:
"straight certainly means “exclusively attracted to the opposite sex.”
That is why as I've said over and over again here that no truly straight guy is going to perform on a gay porn site such as this one, unless they only do a solo or perhaps let another guy suck their dick, but that too is stretching their identity as being 100% straight.
But that being said, the "straighter" guys who've performed here over the years, i.e., Diesal, Tank Shane, Johnny Forza, Adam Baer, Ayden Troy and the like have most probably lived the straight lifestyle prior to coming to work for Broke Straight Boys They identify as being straight, having relationships with females but they all have to have a "curiosity" or at least a part of themselves that are also sexually interested in gay sex. If not, they would not be able to perform sexually here and certainly not over and over again. The "straighter" guys who do gay porn are either a Kinsey 1 or a Kinsey 2 in my opinion.
good post professor.........
louis33705
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I have no intellectual answer to this. I did have a straight friend that said he could only cum with anal stimulation. He admitted he had had guys fuck him just so he could get off.
Another guy I knew said he was probably gay when it came to sex, but str8 when it came to the emotional attraction to someone. He said he would probably marry a woman before he even considered a relationship with a guy.
Personal experience: I used to frequent an adult bookstore. The private booths had been built with glory holes of different dimensions. One day, I found a young built blond guy watching porn and stroking. I motioned to him to put it through the hole. Without hesitation I serviced him and he left quickly after he got off. A couple of weeks later I saw him again and serviced him for a second time. This time I ran out and stood outside lighting a cigarette when he came out. He paused and said, "Thank you." I followed him to his jeep and noticed he had a Marine uniform hanging on the side door and a sticker for our local military base. At closer inspection he had a wedding ring on. We talked for a bit about his military employment and he said he had been transferred to our base in preparations before leaving for Iraq. He said his wife and two kids were home in Tennessee. I told him I was surprised he frequented a bookstore. He then admitted he enjoys oral service from a guy better than a woman. That was the last time I saw him.
Sorry I didn't answer the question of str8 guys going gay porn. These were my experiences with str8 guys having gay sex if that's what you want to call it. As they often say, "A hole's a hole."
Another guy I knew said he was probably gay when it came to sex, but str8 when it came to the emotional attraction to someone. He said he would probably marry a woman before he even considered a relationship with a guy.
Personal experience: I used to frequent an adult bookstore. The private booths had been built with glory holes of different dimensions. One day, I found a young built blond guy watching porn and stroking. I motioned to him to put it through the hole. Without hesitation I serviced him and he left quickly after he got off. A couple of weeks later I saw him again and serviced him for a second time. This time I ran out and stood outside lighting a cigarette when he came out. He paused and said, "Thank you." I followed him to his jeep and noticed he had a Marine uniform hanging on the side door and a sticker for our local military base. At closer inspection he had a wedding ring on. We talked for a bit about his military employment and he said he had been transferred to our base in preparations before leaving for Iraq. He said his wife and two kids were home in Tennessee. I told him I was surprised he frequented a bookstore. He then admitted he enjoys oral service from a guy better than a woman. That was the last time I saw him.
Sorry I didn't answer the question of str8 guys going gay porn. These were my experiences with str8 guys having gay sex if that's what you want to call it. As they often say, "A hole's a hole."
rafe59
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I would have to say that my opinion follows the same line as Mike Yanks.....NO true straight guy is going to have sex with another guy , period.....What we see on here and other sites are 1's and 2's or farther on down the scale as we have seen over the years. I think a lot of these guys are 3 and 4's and this is there way of coming out to themselves, admitting that they like cock also.....makes it easier to say I'm straight and doing it for the money !!!!!!......
Here are my thoughts regarding the question, Betu. A straight man or a straight woman(we can't leave women out of this)are individual people that develop sexual tendencies or desires to be with another straight woman or straight man. It starts simple with wanting to hold their hand, put your arm around them, or simply nurture. The individuals don't read a book or follow any instructions, it is a fluid instinctual inner desire. If this sounds simplistic, well guess what, it is. Gay men or gay women have these same desires to connect with another individual. When this happens, simplicity gets thrown out of the window.
Back to the focus question. As a gay man, for me to try and fully understand the "workings" of my straight friends, family members, and other acquaintances, I have to step into their "shoes" the best way I know how. Let's take your question and do some editing.
What is the definition of a gay guy? Would he do straight porn?
I know there can be many variables pop up that could ultimately affect the answer or outcome. But, if we stay with the pure definition of "straight" and "gay" and there was no detouring off the path through experimentation, etc. by the individual, my answer is no. That answer of no is my individual conclusion. I do not claim that it is "correct". I have seen many examples, on this site alone, that would seem to prove my conclusion wrong. I get it, but in my "instinctual" and "intellectual" world, a "straight" man or woman would not do gay porn. But, so many do.(and Betu, we have discussed this before in messages).
Those individuals are the ones who need to be asked this question and not in a forum for entertainment. I understand gay4pay but yet I don't understand gay4pay. As a gay man, I have zero desire to be sexually intimate with a woman. If a producer offered me hundreds of dollars to perform sexually with a woman, in front of people with cameras, with gay porn being shown on TV monitors throughout the room, I would not be able to do it. But we know that in today's professional world of high quality porn, there are a lot more details than this. One shoot could take multiple hours. I honestly respect, and would probably bow in the presence of a "Diesal". I really don't know how they did it.
My mind is as open as the next person. There are very few windows that this guy has not opened or looked through intently. When I hear "I am just a very opened minded person", "I was taught not to put labels on people or situations", "I am a very sexual individual", etc., etc., those answers go back to that individual. It doesn't make them right or wrong.
Exit question: How many times did I use the word "individual"?
mikeyank
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I agree with Tyler36's premise as I also as a 100% gay male, a classic case of a Kinsey 6, and I could not ever have performed with a woman no matter how much money I was offered, and so conversely I do not believe that a Kinsey 0, (exclusively hetero), could perform sexually with a man.
betudidntknow
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I guess my definition mirrors a little bit of all of the others. I first of all believe that my description has to do primarily with "attraction" both physically and emotionally. I believe that people are fluid in that, as individuals, they can find themselves in a situation of becoming emotionally drawn to or even attracted to an individual of the same sex. Usually someone who they spend a lot of very intimate and close situations with, it's like a bonding and it can lead to ,but not always a sexual experience with each other. The other thing I believe is that people are capable of having some form of sexual experiences for the sake of satisfying natural sexual urges with a member of the same sex. I hear that happens a lot in prison..LOL My definition especially includes or sees each individual as following their own needs, wants desires, curiosities and what not. We can compare one model to another, and while there may be similarities....they have their own set of circumstances which may bring them to gay for pay porn....I believe.
But what really made me ask this question was; reading the forum as long as I have as a member, so often the Pleas, for straight guys, granted, I know that's the name of the site but, most have already said that there's no 100% straight guy performing! But, then there are those who are called straight because, they can't suck dick or don't know how to kiss or even, can't keep an erection with the hottest most popular models in the group? The models who exhibit the least amount of "attraction" toward their scene partners are generally the ones who exhibit greatest amount of characteristics one would expect from a straight guy...are the least welcome??????????????
But what really made me ask this question was; reading the forum as long as I have as a member, so often the Pleas, for straight guys, granted, I know that's the name of the site but, most have already said that there's no 100% straight guy performing! But, then there are those who are called straight because, they can't suck dick or don't know how to kiss or even, can't keep an erection with the hottest most popular models in the group? The models who exhibit the least amount of "attraction" toward their scene partners are generally the ones who exhibit greatest amount of characteristics one would expect from a straight guy...are the least welcome??????????????
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I asked this same question before to another group of friends and that was the first time heard about Kinsey Scale and I have to say that it really helped me to understand a few things...
But I am still not totally satisfied with the answers... I mean, I still can't understand it completely. To explain my doubt I have raise some questions:
- A man who feels attracted to another man but never acts on it... is gay or straight?
- A man who kiss another man for whatever reason (like it or not)... is gay or straight?
- A man who has sex with another man and like it (I don't mean he is going to leave his wife and get married to the other man. He just liked enough to get hard and cum)...... is he gay or straight?
My best friend is a gay man and he is with his husband for 17 years, since they were 16. His husband cheated on him in 3 separate times... Every time he did it with a woman. He often tells me that he is not gay, he just loves his husband. He can't explain it either but he says he would never be with any other man.
Is he gay? He lives with another man for 17 years. Is he straight? He feels disgusted by the idea of being with man (other than his husband).
Another friend told me that he is gay, but his family would never accept that. He decided he would never act like a gay man. He is engaged to a very nice girl and he has sex with her. If he only had sex with girls and he can get hard with her... Is he not 100% gay?Even if he would prefer to be with a man?
Those are the things that intrigues me... I can't see things so black and white as some people can.
Please please please understand that I am a woman and the male universe is totally 'awkward' for me, so don't take anything I said as an offense, those are just doubts...
And I agree with Tyler it's about man and women, but I am using male examples because regarding the mechanical part of sex, women can always do it, faking the reactions... But men can't and some people say that a straight guy would never be able to perform with another guy... People don't usually question girls who act on lesbian movies if they are really straight if they say they are... And they claim to KNOW that most of them are straight.
Well, sorry I didn't answer your question, Betu!
But I am still not totally satisfied with the answers... I mean, I still can't understand it completely. To explain my doubt I have raise some questions:
- A man who feels attracted to another man but never acts on it... is gay or straight?
- A man who kiss another man for whatever reason (like it or not)... is gay or straight?
- A man who has sex with another man and like it (I don't mean he is going to leave his wife and get married to the other man. He just liked enough to get hard and cum)...... is he gay or straight?
My best friend is a gay man and he is with his husband for 17 years, since they were 16. His husband cheated on him in 3 separate times... Every time he did it with a woman. He often tells me that he is not gay, he just loves his husband. He can't explain it either but he says he would never be with any other man.
Is he gay? He lives with another man for 17 years. Is he straight? He feels disgusted by the idea of being with man (other than his husband).
Another friend told me that he is gay, but his family would never accept that. He decided he would never act like a gay man. He is engaged to a very nice girl and he has sex with her. If he only had sex with girls and he can get hard with her... Is he not 100% gay?Even if he would prefer to be with a man?
Those are the things that intrigues me... I can't see things so black and white as some people can.
Please please please understand that I am a woman and the male universe is totally 'awkward' for me, so don't take anything I said as an offense, those are just doubts...
And I agree with Tyler it's about man and women, but I am using male examples because regarding the mechanical part of sex, women can always do it, faking the reactions... But men can't and some people say that a straight guy would never be able to perform with another guy... People don't usually question girls who act on lesbian movies if they are really straight if they say they are... And they claim to KNOW that most of them are straight.
Well, sorry I didn't answer your question, Betu!
But what really made me ask this question was; reading the forum as long as I have as a member, so often the Pleas, for straight guys, granted, I know that's the name of the site but, most have already said that there's no 100% straight guy performing! But, then there are those who are called straight because, they can't suck dick or don't know how to kiss or even, can't keep an erection with the hottest most popular models in the group? The models who exhibit the least amount of "attraction" toward their scene partners are generally the ones who exhibit greatest amount of characteristics one would expect from a straight guy...are the least welcome??????????????
In putting together my earlier comment, I was thinking in "generalities". However, after thinking about your most recent comment and tying in the site with it, the original question does become more specific. Even so, my answer remains no. A limp dick is the best indicator that a man is not being completely sexually stimulated in the situation. I made that point, or attempted to yesterday in the other post regarding Ashton. But it doesn't have to be only about him. I hear what you are saying. As gay men wanting to see believable "straight" guys on this site, some appear, but come short in the area of showing us "hot" sex with another man with no hang ups or problems. It sounds like maybe it is all returned back to square one. The reality is, and if I am understanding your last comment Betu, is that more than likely there may need to be some compromise on the "straight" bullets. We can't have it both ways.
Bart...I have copied the questions and we will work on the answers. Excellent questions, by the way!
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Bart...I have copied the questions and we will work on the answers. Excellent questions, by the way!
Thank you!!! Yo're the best!
mikeyank
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This is why I have "adopted" the term "believably straight" from a former forumite who coined that term here many years ago, as it best describes what I look for on this site. None of us really know what goes on inside of the head of a model, only what we see and perceive.
My favorite current model who epitomizes the term "believably straight" is Damien Nichols who will now be seen again this week on Wednesday night with the top overall model on the site today, Tanner. Damien has it all to my taste. He is young, has a reasonably handsome face, an excellent body, and a nice fat rock hard cock when performing. But at the same time, he has shown the long lost "progression" that I used to love on BSB1 and in some cases on BSB2. He has looked tentative particularly in his earliest scenes, as he really didn't seem to know what to do with his hands as he was having sex with another guy. But it is fun for me to watch his "progression" from scene to scene.
Again, I firmly do not believe that any 100% straight guy could do more than a solo or possibly receive head. Damien is someone who I can believe came here straight as he learns the ropes, and gets more and more pleasure out of t, as I continue to get pleasure out of watching his hot young body. For me that is the classic, tried and true formula that attracted me to Broke Straight Boys in the first place and still works for me with the right type of guy.
My favorite current model who epitomizes the term "believably straight" is Damien Nichols who will now be seen again this week on Wednesday night with the top overall model on the site today, Tanner. Damien has it all to my taste. He is young, has a reasonably handsome face, an excellent body, and a nice fat rock hard cock when performing. But at the same time, he has shown the long lost "progression" that I used to love on BSB1 and in some cases on BSB2. He has looked tentative particularly in his earliest scenes, as he really didn't seem to know what to do with his hands as he was having sex with another guy. But it is fun for me to watch his "progression" from scene to scene.
Again, I firmly do not believe that any 100% straight guy could do more than a solo or possibly receive head. Damien is someone who I can believe came here straight as he learns the ropes, and gets more and more pleasure out of t, as I continue to get pleasure out of watching his hot young body. For me that is the classic, tried and true formula that attracted me to Broke Straight Boys in the first place and still works for me with the right type of guy.
betudidntknow
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You know how I've said that when a comment I read makes me think? It it's better than a simple yes or no, black and white answer if it can Challenge my own believe system? Well, your comment does just that. The idea of "straight" is something I've challenged before. There are so many variables in a person that we tend to use these labels and the Kinsey scale to put things in a nice neat box for our understanding. But, as we find there are unique reasons, situations for many people? I don't dispute the "Kinsey Scale" as that was research but, I do challenge the use of it to describe people absolutely. It's what and how the individual identifies themselves, what they are accepting of that really answers the question angel: Sometimes the best answer to a question is.....there is no one correct answer.
mikeyank
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Obviously as it is with so many questions regarding life and people there is no "one size fits all" correct answer. We are all individuals and the variances between human beings are endless!
peterh6308
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My best friend had no male to male contact (straight) and never showed any interest. But after a few years I had fallen in love with him and told him risking our friendship. Turns out we spent 20 years together as partners so well you just never know!!!!
"You know how I've said that when a comment I read makes me think? It it's better than a simple yes or no, black and white answer if it can Challenge my own believe system? Well, your comment does just that. The idea of "straight" is something I've challenged before.
There are so many variables in a person that we tend to use these labels and the Kinsey scale to put things in a nice neat box for our understanding.
But, as we find there are unique reasons, situations for many people?
I don't dispute the "Kinsey Scale" as that was research but,
I do challenge the use of it to describe people absolutely. It's what and how
the individual identifies themselves, what they are accepting of that really answers the question angel: Sometimes
the best answer to a question is.....there is no one correct answer"
------"betudidntknow"
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----"Tyler36"
Yesterday, 07:03 PM
There are so many variables in a person that we tend to use these labels and the Kinsey scale to put things in a nice neat box for our understanding.
But, as we find there are unique reasons, situations for many people?
I don't dispute the "Kinsey Scale" as that was research but,
I do challenge the use of it to describe people absolutely. It's what and how
the individual identifies themselves, what they are accepting of that really answers the question angel: Sometimes
the best answer to a question is.....there is no one correct answer"
------"betudidntknow"
P.S.
----"Tyler36"
Yesterday, 07:03 PM
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