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I read a article about families who had old money and lost it all bad investments, over spending etc.
The one family that stood out was the Vanderbilts. When Cornelius Vanderbilt died in 1877 he was
worth over 100 million dollars. Can you just imagine what that would equivalent to now? The generations
have spent the money and sold off all his investments and properties. Greedy fuckers!!! lol
 
I read a article about families who had old money and lost it all bad investments, over spending etc.
The one family that stood out was the Vanderbilts. When Cornelius Vanderbilt died in 1877 he was
worth over 100 million dollars. Can you just imagine what that would equivalent to now? The generations
have spent the money and sold off all his investments and properties. Greedy fuckers!!! lol

Nothing like burying your worries about money in someone else's misery eh? Haha
 
I am not wealthy. I am retired and living off my Social Security and a couple of very small pensions. The important thing is that I AM NOT BROKE. I worked for 51 years and planned it so when I was of age to retire, I could do it comfortably. I started down sizing in 2004 by selling my house of 30 years, paying off all my bills and buying a mobile home. In 2008 I retired. I then sold my mobile home and bought a trailer which is where I still live in today. I have all the space I need and live within my needs. Sure there comes a time when one feels like splurging. This year I bought myself a new pair of Converse Chucks like I need another one. I already had 6 pairs so now I have 7 pairs in different colors. I got a new refrigerator cause the old one died on me. I also bought a small electric lawn mower to cut the small yard I have around my place.

I am happy and not broke!

Louis
 
I am not wealthy. I am retired and living off my Social Security and a couple of very small pensions. The important thing is that I AM NOT BROKE. I worked for 51 years and planned it so when I was of age to retire, I could do it comfortably. I started down sizing in 2004 by selling my house of 30 years, paying off all my bills and buying a mobile home. In 2008 I retired. I then sold my mobile home and bought a trailer which is where I still live in today. I have all the space I need and live within my needs. Sure there comes a time when one feels like splurging. This year I bought myself a new pair of Converse Chucks like I need another one. I already had 6 pairs so now I have 7 pairs in different colors. I got a new refrigerator cause the old one died on me. I also bought a small electric lawn mower to cut the small yard I have around my place.

I am happy and not broke!

Louis

That's a great post Louis. We would like to live the life of the Beckhams for example, but in the majority of cases without a lottery win that is impossible. It is fantastic what you have done and you have obviously worked darned hard and entitled to live your remaining 50 years in relaxation. Good for you dude xx
 
There was a show on PBS recently showcasing a bunch of fantastic mansions that have been abandoned for years because the families ran out of money and couldn't even afford to pay taxes. It's sad when they have money and live such an extravagant lifestyle, think of all the good things they could have done with their money if they had only chosen to live comfortably instead and the money would have lasted a lot longer. Personally I haven't met a wealthy person yet that I liked and none of the ones I've spent time with were happy, they were always carrying around a burden and they had a very hard time letting anyone into their life because they were always worried they were going to be taken advantage of. I'd rather live in a trailer with someone who's happy than in a mansion on the beach in Malibu.
 
When it comes to things, sometimes more, is just more.
 
I read a article about families who had old money and lost it all bad investments, over spending etc.
The one family that stood out was the Vanderbilts. When Cornelius Vanderbilt died in 1877 he was
worth over 100 million dollars. Can you just imagine what that would equivalent to now? The generations
have spent the money and sold off all his investments and properties. Greedy fuckers!!! lol

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Peter, from an intellectual vantage-point, you have raised a very interesting question. I believe that many of the answers to the questions you are raising can be found in Thorstein Veblen's 1899 essays, collectively entitled, The Theory of the Leisure Class. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_the_Leisure_Class

I suppose the argument goes something, like this:

*Old money comes, always, from somewhere. In old Europe, it came from medieval pillage and conquest; in North America, it came from (of course pillage and conquest of the Native peoples): but also innovation, entrepreneurship, and (of course) LUCK. The point being, simply - "old money" (even hereditary titles, so revered in the U.K. and some parts of Europe) was once NEW.

*The first generation or three (sometimes JUST the first) of families who have the ambition and ruthlessness to acquire land and wealth (on the old European model, which was based upon martial prowess and service to the sovereign); or the genius and drive to devise innovations, and make wealth from them (as has been the pattern in the U.S., the U.K., Germany, and other such countries, since the Industrial Revolution); will work hard to maintain and INCREASE these holdings.

*But, heredity has very little to do with talent, skill, ambition, or energy. And those who are born into a life of mastery and ease - unlike their unseemly, striving, ancestors (striving, or exceeding one's class, is a quality so despised in class-ridden societies, like the U.K. used to be, I suppose) - seek very quickly to "fit in" with other members of their social class, and spend their money, with STYLE.

*SPENDING money in a graceful fashion is, at any rate, Peter - a lot more fun than EARNING IT. (Or, for that matter, stealing it, or killing for it, either!) So, the better cadres of the latter generations of great families, like the Rockefellers, and the Mellons, who lack the talent for MAKING money. . . dedicate themselves to spending it, in the interest of good causes. (Actually, I have no quarrel, with this.)

*The more FECKLESS troupes blessed with these historic names just wine, and dine, and gamble on the Riviera, until the money runs out. And who can blame them? They have no skills, they have no ambition: they are simply well-educated and enculturated hedonists. So, they do what they do, until the cash RUNS OUT. Like hamsters in a Cage Kafig - they run the wheel, until there is NO MORE CHEESE.

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But, Peter, don't cry for Anderson Cooper - he's a Vanderbilt - at least regarding money. (He has had, sadly, a tragic life owing to the suicide of his brother.) But he isn't wanting, for his next dinner at Le Cirque. . . .

"A" ;-))) XOXOXOXOXO

*"Money, Money, Money" ~ ABBA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvlyVjl4u4
 
Hey, Peter,

Given your general inquiry: I thought you might enjoy this article by Malcolm Gladwell, from The New Yorker, about how the great Mafia families made their money, and laundered it, over generations. . . so that new, dirty, money, got to be old, respectable, money ;-))) Though they would never tell you so - - - most of the old, great, houses of Europe, have similar stories, lost in the mists of time. . . . http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/11/crooked-ladder

"A" XOXOXOXOXO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpDPG2VHW0
 
I am not wealthy. I am retired and living off my Social Security and a couple of very small pensions. The important thing is that I AM NOT BROKE. I worked for 51 years and planned it so when I was of age to retire, I could do it comfortably. I started down sizing in 2004 by selling my house of 30 years, paying off all my bills and buying a mobile home. In 2008 I retired. I then sold my mobile home and bought a trailer which is where I still live in today. I have all the space I need and live within my needs. Sure there comes a time when one feels like splurging. This year I bought myself a new pair of Converse Chucks like I need another one. I already had 6 pairs so now I have 7 pairs in different colors. I got a new refrigerator cause the old one died on me. I also bought a small electric lawn mower to cut the small yard I have around my place.

I am happy and not broke!

Louis

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Louis,

Apart from being super-cute, and having AMAZING cheekbones and a luminous smile. . . you're one hell of a smart dude, too.

With your "Ambi", it's gonna be quite a different story. I spent the first half of my career working on term-positions - due to fiscal austerity and cutbacks, and got no pension out of it. . . and so, I am going to be writing speeches for cash until I am in an iron lung (and beyond). Deo volente????

Not that I'd have it any other way. (Maybe, when I am 75, Jason will remember how much I loved him, and buy me a membership to Broke Straight Boys!!! LOL!!!)

Your friend,
"A" ;-)))

*Brother, can you spare a dime? - Bing Crosby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eih67rlGNhU
 
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