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Just read this on the BBC News website - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24433433

President Hamid Karzai has criticised Nato for failing to bring stability to Afghanistan in over a decade there.
"On the security front the entire Nato exercise was one that caused Afghanistan a lot of suffering, a lot of loss of life, and no gains because the country is not secure," he said.
He said Nato had incorrectly focused the fight on Afghan villages rather than Taliban safe havens in Pakistan.
Mr Karzai has just six months remaining in office until a successor is elected.
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The return of the Taliban will not undermine progress. This country needs to have peace”
Hamid Karzai

"I am not happy to say that there is partial security. That's not what we are seeking. What we wanted was absolute security and a clear-cut war against terrorism," Mr Karzai said of the Nato campaign.
Speaking in one of his last major interviews before stepping down, he told BBC Newsnight that his priority now is to bring peace and security to Afghanistan, including a power-sharing deal with the Taliban.
He said that his government was actively engaged in talks with the hardline Islamic group with this aim in mind:
"They are Afghans. Where the Afghan president, the Afghan government can appoint the Taliban to a government job they are welcome," he said. "But where it's the Afghan people appointing people through elections to state organs then the Taliban should come and participate in elections."
Try telling that to the hundreds of foreign servicemen who have lost their lives to help get his troubled country out of deep shit. It is not surprising that the Taliban is never defeated when there are people like him who come out with shit like that. Nato should pull out and let the Afghan army reunite with their Taliban friends.
 
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[h=2]Analysis[/h]Afghanistan has come a long way from 2001, from the days of the Taliban's oppressive Islamist rule. But it has cost hundreds of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives.
And as the Afghans argue with the United States about a bilateral security agreement that will formalise post-war relations, its president continues to be an ally one day, and an opponent the next.
Hamid Karzai has long had a troubled relationship with his Western backers. And whether it is fighting the Taliban or nation-building, he has often had very different objectives, especially from the US.
When I interviewed him 18 months ago he seemed frustrated, especially with the United States. But this time, Mr Karzai seemed more relaxed, clearly feeling that his concerns about the Nato operation had finally been heard in capitals around the world.
Now, with only six months until elections for his successor Mr Karzai is looking to establish his legacy. He says the most important thing for him is that he is seen as the man who did his utmost to defend and unite the new Afghanistan.
But it has come at a price. He lives under armed guard and has survived at least six assassination attempts.
 
Dear Jon,

I know this is a topic you care about greatly but, unfortunately, President Hamid Karzai's only concern seems to be what wealth he can get out of his tenure as leader in his troubled country. He was a mistake from day one and never showed much genuine concern for leading his country to victory against the Taliban.

All he is good for is milking out as much resources as possible from this tragic episode in his country's history. He may not be a monster like Saddam Hussein but he has no commitment to making his country safe from the Taliban. We should have known this from the very beginning.


Sincerely,


Stimpy
 
I can't disagree with either one of you on this. Karzai has been a corrupt politician from almost Day 1. He has been lying to us, double-dealing us with the Taliban, stealing elections, stealing aid money, promoting nepotism by putting family members in positions of power so they could be on the take also, protecting murderous warlords, etc. The list just goes on and on. The U.S. lost Afghanistan to the Taliban many years ago. Once the U.S. and other NATO forces leave, the Taliban will take over the country again most likely in less than a year. It's time to declare victory and bring all the troops home.

Stop asking our service personnel in all branches to risk paying the Ultimate Price for a war that we are not prepared to commit enough resources to winning. At this point we are also throwing good money after bad. And we're talking billions here. I shudder to think of how much of it has ended up in Swiss bank accounts and other shady underworld black markets like the Afghan opium trade and so on. Enough already.

It's kind of eerie to be saying many of the same things that people said about Vietnam over 40 years ago. At least this time the American public isn't blaming the troops like they did then.
 
Yes guys, it was a big mistake sending our troops into this troubled country where no foreign "invader" has ever beaten the Taliban. We should have learnt from the Russians and previous British attempts years ago.
 
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