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Sergio's ratings should really be higher. He is so good looking and a great personality. :(
It's not as easy as that Mark. He is a very handsome man with a great body, who is very skilled and passionate having sex and making love, and I have no doubt that he has a wonderful personality.

But speaking for myself, and apparently others who vote on models and scenes, Sergio is not the type that I am looking for on Broke Straight Boys He may be a great College Dudes model, but he does not give me the vibe that I look for in a Broke Straight Boys As I often say, Broke Straight Boys is a fetish site and many of us fetishists have a good idea of what turns us on and what doesn't, and it takes more than just a handsome face and fit body.
 
It's not as easy as that Mark. He is a very handsome man with a great body, who is very skilled and passionate having sex and making love, and I have no doubt that he has a wonderful personality.

But speaking for myself, and apparently others who vote on models and scenes, Sergio is not the type that I am looking for on Broke Straight Boys He may be a great College Dudes model, but he does not give me the vibe that I look for in a Broke Straight Boys As I often say, Broke Straight Boys is a fetish site and many of us fetishists have a good idea of what turns us on and what doesn't, and it takes more than just a handsome face and fit body.

The thing about Sergio ( to me ) is he might be the only real straight boy on the site. He is different than most of the boys on the site.I just get that feeling.
But what do I know ? But if I had to chose one it would be him.. Just Saying
 
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The thing about Sergio ( to me ) is he might be the only real straight boy on the site. He is different than most of the boys on the site.I just get that feeling.
But what do I know ? But if I had to chose one it would be him.. Just Saying
We all have our types that get our motors all revved up Johnny, and if Sergio does it for you, more power to you!!!!

The only reason I brought up my feelings about him is that Mark questioned why his ratings were not higher, and I offered my point of view. When it comes to who is hot and who turns us on, there is no right or wrong! We all know who and what works for us.
 
Sergio's ratings should really be higher. He is so good looking and a great personality. :(

Hi Mark,

I totally agree with you on both counts. Sergio's ratings should be higher. He is a very good looking guy. I already gave this scene a 5 before reading your post. I was willing to do that in spite of the fact that I didn't like seeing Vadim Black in so much pain at times. They both looked great and tried very hard here. This was a very good scene. IMO :)

I have done some thinking on this Mark and even went back to do some quick research on what some of the members in the forum were saying about particular scenes. Members of the forum do not speak for entire membership of course. But they do provide a snapshot of how scenes and models are likely being perceived. As this goes back a ways, my memory is a little fuzzy also. That's why I went back and re-read some of it. I'm going into these details not for the purposes of putting Sergio down...but to give some examples to you, Johnny and Sergio to hopefully improve his ratings and onscreen presence. Sergio's scenes up to this point (excluding this one) have often but not always suffered, because he did not come across well on camera. His body is great! Other than a few who may not like his bulkier body type, I've never heard any complaints about him not being handsome or likeable enough. So what gives?

Sergio's ratings and his scenes in the past suffered partly from being here during the transition while Clay was disengaging and slowly walking out the door. It also didn't help his ratings to be in some of the first scenes when Johnny was just arriving on board. Johnny was still trying to find a formula that suited both him and the established audience. Sergio had at least one of Clay's scenes with the cold opening. For a Broke Straight Boys audience, we're so spoiled by getting to listen to the models beforehand, that we sometimes feel cheated if we don't get that. It feels like we're off on the wrong foot right from the beginning of the scene. So while that may be the director's fault, the scene rating and even the model rating (by default) may suffer. Sergio was also in a couple of scenes where the pairing of models just didn't work. That part's always a crapshoot anyway. You win some, you lose some.

When Johnny took over, Sergio was still in some of his beginning scenes. We were going through the phase where the talking went on too long and running conversation carried over too far into the actual sex. In some scenes if I recall correctly, Sergio himself wouldn't stop talking to his partner and making smart aleck remarks about things not having to do with moving the sex along. Some of his scenes could have been helped if the director (either Clay or Johnny) had interjected during breaks in filming that he needed to stop randomly conversing so much. Obviously on a site like this we prefer the models to be as straight looking and acting as possible. When we're introduced to a model and he gives all his straight credentials, of course we eat that up. lol But... If a model continues harping on how straight he is over several scenes, it reaches a point of diminishing returns. The audience sometimes gets annoyed by too much of it, and starts tuning out.

I won't name names. But there was at least one scene where Sergio and another model had the stereotypical straight alpha male pissing contest on the set. Each guy (in a playful but very competitive way) was so invested in proving his dominance and straightness throughout the course of the scene, that the importance of providing the audience with watchable sex slid way down the list of priorities. Again... That can be entertaining and fun to watch in a beginning part of a scene, as long as it's not overdone...and as long as it's not carried over into several scenes. In another scene he treated each sex act and position like it was some kind of hilarious hazing frat initiation for his partner, rather than a commitment to actually have watchable sex with him. So those kinds of things just didn't play as well to the camera or the audience.

Now for the good news! The good news about all this is that Sergio can definitely improve on all those things. He is beautiful and he does have a nice, cheerful, upbeat, warm and playful personality. I don't want to neuter the man. Nor do I advocate telling him to take on a different stage personality that does not suit him at all. Sergio has the potential to become very popular on the site. This is very much a "What have you done for us lately?" kind of business. That works very much in Sergio's favor. If Sergio and Johnny can work together so as not to repeat some of the missteps of the past, his future here will be quite bright. :) This scene is a great example of what Sergio's capable of delivering.

We can always go back and change our votes for individual model ratings. I already went back and gave him a 5 after this scene. And just that one vote helped bump his rating up by .01 :thumbup1:
 
Tampa, I appreciate your thoughtful post on Sergio and your reasons that he is not as highly rated as other models, however I really believe that when we are talking about porn, people vote with their dicks, (pardon the crude terminology) and to look for esoteric nuances in their performances does not hold as much water here, as when we are discussing Shakespearean acting, and the like.

If you look at the first few pages of the highest ranked models, the current top models in order are:
Tyler White
Paul Canon
Adam
Blake
Jason
Brandon
Vadim Black
Johnny Forza
Denver
Mick Torrence
Tyler Evans
Spencer Todd

There is so much variance in each of their time on the site, and whether they worked under David, Clay or Johnny. Some were or are sensual love making guys, while others just pretty boys with big cocks. So my point is that I don't think that the director or the situation influences those who vote on the models, but rather we vote with our dicks and if a model makes us hard, we vote five and if he leaves us limp, he gets a one.

Porn entertainment to me is very different in that sense than other forms of entertainment. That's how I see it.
 
Tampa, I appreciate your thoughtful post on Sergio and your reasons that he is not as highly rated as other models, however I really believe that when we are talking about porn, people vote with their dicks, (pardon the crude terminology) and to look for esoteric nuances in their performances does not hold as much water here, as when we are discussing Shakespearean acting, and the like.

Porn entertainment to me is very different in that sense than other forms of entertainment. That's how I see it.

I won't disagree with you on many of those points Mikey. But I do feel that Sergio can make audiences happier than he has in the past. I feel with Sergio that he is just as good looking and capable as some of the guys in the top of the ratings. Mark put out there that he was frustrated by how such a [potentially] great model was not getting more luv and acceptance from a Broke Straight Boys audience. So I just listed reasons why I thought that was so. But in so doing I also hoped it could provide a roadmap going forward for how he could increase his popularity here.

You seem to feel that he just won't catch on here in popularity regardless of whatever the reasons may be. And perhaps you're right. But I hope you'll forgive me my friend if I hope you're wrong. :) xo
 
You seem to feel that he just won't catch on here in popularity regardless of whatever the reasons may be. And perhaps you're right. But I hope you'll forgive me my friend if I hope you're wrong. :) xo
Tampa, you and I have disagreed on models in the past, and we certainly root very hard for two different teams in the American League East, but I still love you just the same. Even with friends, if we all agreed on everything, it would make life rather boring.
 
This is the first time that I've ever seen Sergio in a scene so I can only base my opinion on this scene. Sergio surprised me as I didn't expect him to be like that. I think he's a good looking bloke and he has a great body with what looks like a great personality but he's not my type but I did like the way he was in the scene and I think he would be good on other scenes with other models as he seems like the sort of person that could fit in well with most models. I know vadims not with Broke Straight Boys any more but I thought id mention him. As I've said before I think that he is a really good looking bloke and I do like him but in my opinion he didn't seem to put his all into it and I think he has to be the most vocal model that I've seen. I am gutted that he's gone but I say that if he wasn't committed to Broke Straight Boys then the sites better of without him.
 
Tampa, I appreciate your thoughtful post on Sergio and your reasons that he is not as highly rated as other models, however I really believe that when we are talking about porn, people vote with their dicks, (pardon the crude terminology) and to look for esoteric nuances in their performances does not hold as much water here, as when we are discussing Shakespearean acting, and the like.

If you look at the first few pages of the highest ranked models, the current top models in order are:
Tyler White
Paul Canon
Adam
Blake
Jason
Brandon
Vadim Black
Johnny Forza
Denver
Mick Torrence
Tyler Evans
Spencer Todd

There is so much variance in each of their time on the site, and whether they worked under David, Clay or Johnny. Some were or are sensual love making guys, while others just pretty boys with big cocks. So my point is that I don't think that the director or the situation influences those who vote on the models, but rather we vote with our dicks and if a model makes us hard, we vote five and if he leaves us limp, he gets a one.

Porn entertainment to me is very different in that sense than other forms of entertainment. That's how I see it.

It's funny world, I've never even seen that list before. So considering I found it difficult to find and have not voted my favs at all, then I gather others have not voted too. We have also argued about the members fav scenes page many times and I don't believe how the pages change from day to day. So the favs whether it be models or scenes is only as good as the input, and I doubt where models are concerned if there has been much input.
 
I won't name names. But there was at least one scene where Sergio and another model had the stereotypical straight alpha male pissing contest on the set. Each guy (in a playful but very competitive way) was so invested in proving his dominance and straightness throughout the course of the scene, that the importance of providing the audience with watchable sex slid way down the list of priorities. Again... That can be entertaining and fun to watch in a beginning part of a scene, as long as it's not overdone...and as long as it's not carried over into several scenes. In another scene he treated each sex act and position like it was some kind of hilarious hazing frat initiation for his partner, rather than a commitment to actually have watchable sex with him. So those kinds of things just didn't play as well to the camera or the audience.

I think I remember the scene you're talking about - I actually thought the back and forth was hot and I wasn't the only one who said that, as I recall. So like everything we talk about, it's totally subjective.
 
I think I remember the scene you're talking about - I actually thought the back and forth was hot and I wasn't the only one who said that, as I recall. So like everything we talk about, it's totally subjective.
Exactly Advocate. It is all so subjective, as we all have our own straight boy fantasies, but like you, I enjoy that kind of back and forth between straight guys. That's why it's impossible to give guidelines as how a model should behave in his scenes to drive up the ratings, for as you said it is "totally subjective"!
 
It's funny world, I've never even seen that list before. So considering I found it difficult to find and have not voted my favs at all, then I gather others have not voted too. We have also argued about the members fav scenes page many times and I don't believe how the pages change from day to day. So the favs whether it be models or scenes is only as good as the input, and I doubt where models are concerned if there has been much input.
There are votes on the scenes, which we cannot change once we've voted, but they now have a model voting system on each of the model's pages, and as Tampa mentioned earlier on this thread, he changed his vote on Sergio and saw his overall rating go up .01. It was also Tampa who recently explained how we can view the models ratings.

Click on "The Boys", and then "All Boys". The default "arrange setting" is "Models - Arranged Newest To Oldest ", but there is a drop down menu where we can see the boys arranged alphabetically, by shoe size, cock size, youngest, shortest, heaviest, and one of those ways to arrange the boys is by "Models - Arranged Highest Rated Models". That is where I got my list from.

The members favorite scenes on the homepage do tend to vary now-a-days and I don't necessarily believe that it is as scientifically done as on the boys page.
 
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hotttest guys on here Vadim Black has the body hes straight loves people out goinghe knows how to make a hot scenne
 
I think one of the issues with Sergio is that it's hard to think of him as a "boy". He's got the more mature look of a man and a confident attitude to go with it. Compared to 18 yr old Vadim Black, who is all cuteness and innocent charisma, Sergio has a very different, more masculine vibe.

I enjoyed watching Sergio in much of this scene until the whining and screaming started. He has a great presence and beautiful body.

Vadim Black is very young and I think to some extent more immature than other 18 yr olds that started doing porn so young (Ian was that age and came across as much more mature). He's a terrible bottom unless you like seeing someone in pain. He never did learn to relax into it on this site. I hope his career at other sites doesn't prove as painful.
 
I would also like to commend both guys for doing some actual kissing in this scene. You could actually see some tongue so you knew it wasn't fake. I enjoyed that part very much. :thumbup:
 
I gave it a 3. I think Sergio is beautiful but he just doesn't do anything for me and I haven't figured it yet. Vadim Black tries but he has issues staying hard and since he's been fucked a few times already I wasn't expecting him not to be able to take Sergio without such a resistance. The oral I think was the best part. Sergio can fuck but there is no emotion when he does. Vadim Black tried but it's hard to get to excited about him since he jumped ship already.
 
If you look at the first few pages of the highest ranked models, the current top models in order are:
Tyler White
Paul Canon
Adam
Blake
Jason
Brandon
Vadim Black
Johnny Forza
Denver
Mick Torrence
Tyler Evans
Spencer Todd

Personnally if this is the "list" in it's exact order of all time favorites then I'll have to disagree. I feel half of these models don't deserve to be in the top 12. Having been a member for a few years and reading this forum and knowing a lot of our favorites the list doesn't contain what I've read as our favorites over the years. Diesal, Cousin Mikey, Damien, Ayden, Danny just to name a few who had many fans on here. Just my two cents!!!
 
If you look at the first few pages of the highest ranked models, the current top models in order are:
Tyler White
Paul Canon
Adam
Blake
Jason
Brandon
Vadim Black
Johnny Forza
Denver
Mick Torrence
Tyler Evans
Spencer Todd

Personnally if this is the "list" in it's exact order of all time favorites then I'll have to disagree. I feel half of these models don't deserve to be in the top 12. Having been a member for a few years and reading this forum and knowing a lot of our favorites the list doesn't contain what I've read as our favorites over the years. Diesal, Cousin Mikey, Damien, Ayden, Danny just to name a few who had many fans on here. Just my two cents!!!
I think this is because the model voting is something relatively new, as back in the day, people complained that if a scene had one model they liked and one they didn't, they could not vote separately, but only give a scene one vote.

So with the fairly new model voting, it is weighed much more heavily on the guys who've actually been here since the system has been in place. In fact I was surprised that Tyler Evans even made it as #12. That shows his fairly universal Broke Straight Boys appeal as all votes came years after his last scene here.
 
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