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Scene Thread - Draven Caine And Zander Floyd Raw

I guess I’m just an old fart. Zander Floyd is too much a stoner for me, and I’ve said from when we first met him that Draven was too fem for me. But Mike, like the Yankees, I’m out of this one.
 
I'm with you mikeyank. I for one don't want to see Draven bottom. The guys a top and a good one. Please Broke Straight Boys don't fuck it up. You got more than enough bottoms to go around.
Loved this scene. Draven is definitely near the top of my favorite list. Spent most of the time watching this scene wishing I were the lucky Zander Floyd. My hair is soft, too, Draven. Hope we see more, much m,ore, of Draven.
 
I guess I’m just an old fart. Zander Floyd is too much a stoner for me, and I’ve said from when we first met him that Draven was too fem for me. But Mike, like the Yankees, I’m out of this one.
Actually Jeff my old friend, The Yankees are still in it, playing the wild card game on Tuesday night, possibly at Yankee Stadium. It's The Red Sox who are "out of this one". lol
 
I have to agree with my great friend, Mike, in that I hope Draven does not cave into bottoming if he does not want to.



Finally someone who agrees with me! lol

In this world, some guys are exclusive tops and if Draven wants that, let him be himself.
I love you too Robb! :smiley-love021:


Puhleeeeze, mikey!!! Your memory must be fading as you get older. You and I have agreed on this issue since I came on the forum 4 years ago. In fact it is one of the issues that we bonded over at the beginning of our friendship especially as we were JJ's top two defenders. While there might be specific models where we might disagree as to bottoming, the general issue of really straight or straight acting studs not bottoming is one where we have always agreed.

Start exercising the memory part of your brain, old man - lol !!!
 
Puhleeeeze, mikey!!! Your memory must be fading as you get older. You and I have agreed on this issue since I came on the forum 4 years ago. In fact it is one of the issues that we bonded over at the beginning of our friendship especially as we were JJ's top two defenders. While there might be specific models where we might disagree as to bottoming, the general issue of really straight or straight acting studs not bottoming is one where we have always agreed.

Start exercising the memory part of your brain, old man - lol !!!
Stowe I am well aware of your agreement with me that there are "straight top" types who have the masculine persona who we feel should exclusively top.

I was taking "poetic licence" telling Robb that I "finally found" someone who agrees with me, as the majority of forumites, both current and in the past seem to feel that every boy on the futon or the couch or even the bench press should get fucked as well. But as you and I know and feel, "It ain't necessarily so". lol :thumbup:
 
I'd like to see Draven and Jimmy in a flip-flop scene!!! Kissing and everything....
 
Jimmy is no longer butt virgin, lost it to Colby Jensen @ MEN last year. Draven will make his own mind up. As long as they love it I go with that. Took Zeno Kostas a year to decide to try it He is clearly happy with it his decision- so whatever happens its up to him. Oh yeah Johnny Forza no longer hates it, saw him @ MEN also taking a very large one with no face grimace in the least matter of fact he has taken it Quite abit since leaving Broke Straight Boys Thought you would like the info if you did not know it.
 
It looks like this thread has zigzagged all over the place but for the scene. I once again give 5 5 5 . Think Draven is the best. All tops MUST bottom every once in a while to learn how it feels. Zander Floyd I'M getting used to him. I wish he didn't seem stoned all the time. I hope both are around for a long time.
 
Draven I gave a 4. He tops very well and it did seem as if he were in the passionate zone throughout. Zander Floyd, I gave a 3. Again he looked on the grubby side and it came across to me that he was playing at being passionate (as opposed to his scene with Drake where he really came across as being in the throes of passion).

The scene got a 3. Some horrible editing and I never did see the surprises that Draven said he had up his sleeve. Nothing in this scene was anything I've not seen here before.

I reiterate my view that I hope Draven never gets comfortable with the thought of trying to bottom. I never want to see that beautiful and bounteous ass doing anything but pumping his dick into a bottom's ass.
 
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Draven I gave a 4. He tops very well and it did seem as if he were in the passionate zone throughout. Zander Floyd, I gave a 3. Again he looked on the grubby side and it came across to me that he was playing at being passionate (as opposed to his scene with Drake where he really came across as being in the throes of passion).

The scene got a 3. Some horrible editing and I never did see the surprises that Draven said he had up his sleeve. Nothing in this scene was anything I've not seen here before.

I reiterate my view that I hope Draven never gets comfortable with the thought of trying to bottom. I never want to see that beautiful and bounteous ass doing anything but pumping his dick into a bottom's ass.

I was waiting for someone else to mention the above points. I also gave the scene a 3 which is the lowest I've given to a scene in a while. The scene was all over the place and I was waiting for some actual good fucking to happen which didn't. The passion was nice but the whole scene felt awkward. I like both Zander Floyd and draven but this scene was a mess. The models still got a 4. Dravens scene with Gage Owens was worlds better.
 
I am in total agreement with Mikey and a few others in that I hope Draven does not bottom unless he truly wants to in which case I hope it takes him a long time to come to that decision. Once in a while there just seems to appear a model who is just a hot, natural top who just should remain one and I think Draven is one of them. It was so refreshing to see two guys actually KISS rather than do the duckface smackys by grabbing either the top lip only or the bottom lip only. There is not much doubt that Dravin will go in for the full open-mouthed tongue-extended sexy, hot kiss and that is such a total turn-on. I had much rather see a scene with no attempt at kissing than to watch two models try to make me feel they are insulting my intelligence by trying to fool viewers with loud smacks that just don't resemble a passionate kiss Zander Floyd is a turn on in whatever he does and seems to have developed a real liking for bottoming and he does it well. I do still like to see him top though; I like his rabbit action both on the screen and in real life (just me, I guess). 5-5-5. Loved the passion and scene variety.
 
I suppose I'm the proverbial fox in the hen house, but I really didn't care much for this clip. I looked back at Zander Floyd's initial photo and his first few scenes; I thought her was pretty cute. But with his unfortunate beard and tats he just looks scruffy to me and has lost the look that attracted me. But that is just me.
 
I agree with Leedwb about the kissing. I really like seeing two guys getting turned-on by good open-mouth kissing. I get turned-on by just watching them. Hot!
 
Okay, first post, and i apologize if this is a horrible first post...

But is Zander Floyd mentally.....all there? I've watched him from the start, and he was a large reason of why I joined the site. Thought he was hot as hell, but the more scenes I watch, the more I feel like he's being exploited? It's not even that he's high?
 
The scene was all about Draven for me. He fucks with his whole body, concentrates on what he's doing, and does it all with that beautiful rugged body and big hard dick. Sensuality wise, he could soon rival Zeno Kostas. He just needs to open up his imagination the way Zeno Kostas has.

Draven is definitely the new star, and in a very short time.

Draven 5++++
Zander Floyd 3
Scene 5

I don't usually say this, but I think Draven should remain a top. His masculinity, aggressive side and natural talent for it is all I need!!!
 
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Okay, first post, and i apologize if this is a horrible first post...

But is Zander Floyd mentally.....all there? I've watched him from the start, and he was a large reason of why I joined the site. Thought he was hot as hell, but the more scenes I watch, the more I feel like he's being exploited? It's not even that he's high?

Welcome to the forum Kreshh! :welcome:

I happen to love this scene and will give a review of it at a later time. Having said that, I understand some of the points you raise. I don't think that Zander Floyd is being exploited. I think he gives his full consent and has the mental wherewithal to do so. It's obvious though that he is very shy and doesn't like to talk much on camera. I think the moaning is part cover for him to not have to talk at all during the sex. Some of his affect on camera can lead one to wonder if he is a pothead. I'd say the jury is still out on that one. lol When they filmed out in Colorado, marijuana was legal. So who knows... haha

This scene appeared to have been filmed very early in the morning. So perhaps sleepiness and grogginess were some reasons why Zander Floyd appeared to be even less talkative and more aloof than usual. I still love Zander Floyd and look forward to all of his scenes. In fact I think this is one of his best scenes in a while. :)
 
Welcome to the forum Kreshh! :welcome:

I happen to love this scene and will give a review of it at a later time. Having said that, I understand some of the points you raise. I don't think that Zander Floyd is being exploited. I think he gives his full consent and has the mental wherewithal to do so. It's obvious though that he is very shy and doesn't like to talk much on camera. I think the moaning is part cover for him to not have to talk at all during the sex. Some of his affect on camera can lead one to wonder if he is a pothead. I'd say the jury is still out on that one. lol When they filmed out in Colorado, marijuana was legal. So who knows... haha

This scene appeared to have been filmed very early in the morning. So perhaps sleepiness and grogginess were some reasons why Zander Floyd appeared to be even less talkative and more aloof than usual. I still love Zander Floyd and look forward to all of his scenes. In fact I think this is one of his best scenes in a while. :)

Im probably exaggerating. Thank you for the warm welcome, I appreciate it :)
 
I'm torn between rating this "scene" or just congratulating Zander Floyd and Draven for finding each other. It looked very genuine to me with not a hint of acting. I almost felt like I was peeping in someone's window at a couple getting it on.

As I said it appeared genuine, so it had to be hot of course. I, therefore, gave the scene a 5. Since everything was more or less sporadic, it had to be very difficult for the cameraman to keep up with them. He did a very good job at that, in my opinion.

While Zander Floyd seems to have just about everybody here as a fan, I have to admit that I am not so much. He is cute at times, but he just doesn't do it for me. However, for his "performance" in this scene, I gave him a 5...again, just too real. (I'm a sucker for real, hot lovemaking)

Draven, on the other hand, is a little hottie, who could share my bed anytime he wants. I have to agree with my great friend, Mike, in that I hope Draven does not cave into bottoming if he does not want to. He has an ass worthy of pure worship. I could do an entire scene with my face buried in that ass. Damn! I love how he is so eager to please his fans, and if he pleases himself and his partner in the process, even better. I love just about everything about him actually. So having said all of that, I gave him a 5 also.

Hot scene guys...thanks.

5-5-5 for me!

I couldn't agree more Robb. I felt like I was peeking in through a window catching two guys who had been man-crushing, flirting and lusting over each other for a long while...and finally got their chance to go for it. I understand those who felt the action was frenetic, too disjointed perhaps and had a sporadic use of positions at times to be considered a well shot scene. Rather than blame less than perfect camera work or editing though I would posit another possible interpretation.

This felt much less like a commercial porn video and much more like watching two guys eagerly hook up for the first time in real life. In real life you're not concerned with whether you are using a position that gives the best camera angle. This looked like two guys who couldn't wait to have sex with each other. They're so turned on by each other, they just know they want it as soon as possible. Not fully knowing the other's body yet and not knowing what each likes sexually, they're not quite sure what the "it" is just yet. Only that they'll know it when they find it. haha So you see an urgent flurry of hands flying, groping and kneading flesh. You see lips, tongues, hands and limbs trying to land on just about every body part possible. Each partner trying to find that sweet spot where the most pleasure is being had by both parties.

Once the initial familiarization with each other's bodies has occurred (and each is assured the other isn't going to back away and leave) they can then calm down enough to alternate the acts and positions that seemed to bring the most pleasure in the beginning. I loved how much Draven couldn't keep his hands off of Zander Floyd. He really seemed to fall in love with the silky softness of Zander Floyd's hair...as well as cupping Zander Floyd's face within his hands. I liked how Draven's hands urgently caressed Zander Floyd's whole body pretty much the whole time they weren't actually fucking. lol

I really believed Draven when he said that he had been very anxiously awaiting the chance to kiss Zander Floyd. While I didn't see a whole lot of tongue action, the kissing sure looked genuine and passionate to me. haha Draven's butt is just to die for. I don't blame Zander Floyd at all for wanting to cop several touches and feels of it. Zander Floyd looked great as usual. If these two never ever secretly make out and/or hook up off camera at least once...I'll be very surprised. The heat and passion between them was just intense, totally believable and seemingly insatiable. :thumbup1:
 
Okay, first post, and i apologize if this is a horrible first post...

But is Zander Floyd mentally.....all there? I've watched him from the start, and he was a large reason of why I joined the site. Thought he was hot as hell, but the more scenes I watch, the more I feel like he's being exploited? It's not even that he's high?

I really like the way Zander Floyd looks, but I've thought the same thing too!!!
 
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