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[br6205]

Could not agree more!

 

[mikeyank]

Carl Nassib is such a wonderful role model for young athletes who are gay. He is a handsome, masculine fine athlete, in fact to be a professional football player means you are at the top of all the athletes who play football. Obviously he is not the first as we are approximately 10% of the population, but he had the balls to be open about it and that is a first. And now for his coach to come out as being a total homophobic jerk, must make Carl feel like crap. I admire this young man and sure hope he continues and becomes an All Pro to show the creeps in the world that being gay has nothing to do with whatever else we are. Right on Carl!!!

 

[tampa24]

I totally agree with the author of this article in Out Sports

https://www.outsports.com/2021/10/13/22724887/carl-nassib-jon-gruden-gay-emails-las-vegas-raiders

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Carl Nassib takes personal day in wake of Jon Gruden anti-gay comments

Carl Nassib may feel more alone than he felt when he was in the closet. That is a tragedy.

By Cyd Zeigler@CydZeigler Oct 13, 2021, 1:05pm

It was less than four months ago that Nassib made a choice to come out as gay, the only current player in the NFL to do so. He did it on the very team Gruden coached. And he chose to do it during Pride month, our community’s celebration of who we are and our togetherness.

Yet I can only imagine how alone Nassib feels this week.

Today he requested time away from the team, less than two days after Gruden’s awful comments became public.

When Las Vegas Raiders general manager Mike Mayock said today that Nassib “is a community of one that is openly gay” in the NFL, he was not far off. There are great players who are out who came before him, but virtually none of them know what he’s feeling.

I can only imagine the onslaught of requests Nassib has received to talk about Gruden’s slurs. “The gay player for the anti-gay coach.” For the media, it writes itself.

Yet the last person I would try to reach out to right now is Nassib. The emotional toll of coming out and reading reports of your head coach calling the commissioner of the NFL a “faggot,” and Michael Sam a “queer,” has to be rough.

It’s something none of us know. We don’t understand it.

And Nassib has made it clear: He just wants to play football.

I wish I could give Nassib a hug. And listen to him, and talk to him. Help Getting over the coming-out hurdle isn’t easy. It wasn’t easy for Nassib. There are so many fears of reactions from family, players, fans. No matter how many Dave Kopays and Carl Nassibs have come before them, the fear is real.

Gruden’s own words make it even harder.

Yet my hope is that every other LGBTQ person across football can see what we’ve seen at Outsports, that people are generally good. That they generally want the best for their teammates, or the athletes on their favorite team. That parents generally just want their kids to be happy and successful. And that there is a wonderful, diverse LGBTQ community to support all of it.

I hope they all take heart in how the NFL has reacted to Gruden’s once-private comments. Other than a couple “this was 10 years ago” comments on Twitter, I’ve seen no defense of what he said and his choice of words. Not from players, not from fans, not from coaches, not from anybody.

Yet none of that helps Nassib right now.

A community of one. I take some solace in knowing he has a boyfriend, someone who can hopefully listen to him and help him through this tough time.

I look for hope to some of his teammates, who have expressed pride in him. And I hope Mark Davis, the owner of the team, reaches out and offers two ears to listen. Davis’ family has staked its reputation on values of inclusion and diversity, and there are probably few people in the NFL more equipped to listen than the owner of Nassib’s team.

Coming out was one of the toughest things I’ve ever done. To come out publicly? As an NFL player? I can’t imagine the fear they have to overcome.

Yet it was also the best decision I’ve made in my life. We hear the same thing from out athletes everywhere. Nassib himself has talked about the absolute joy he’s experienced being his true self. And if you’ve been watching, he’s even been playing better.

As football players are coming out at high schools and colleges across America, I increasingly hope gay and bi NFL players do the same. They’re out there. I know they are.

And if they’re not ready to come out publicly, I so hope they’ll reach out to Nassib or the Raiders. Offer this young, courageous man a sense that he is not alone. Let him know there are others just like him playing around the league.

Even if he may feel alone right now, Nassib is not. And it’s our job to make sure he feels that sense of community.

Thanks for this article Mikey. It's very good.

 

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I again posted these pics in the wrong forum, please forgive me, Mike as I said the senility thing.

 

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[mikeyank]

Carl Nassib is such a wonderful role model for young athletes who are gay. He is a handsome, masculine fine athlete, in fact to be a professional football player means you are at the top of all the athletes who play football. Obviously he is not the first as we are approximately 10% of the population, but he had the balls to be open about it and that is a first. And now for his coach to come out as being a total homophobic jerk, must make Carl feel like crap. I admire this young man and sure hope he continues and becomes an All Pro to show the creeps in the world that being gay has nothing to do with whatever else we are. Right on Carl!!!

Thanks for this article Mikey. It's very good.

I watched a YouTube video with Carl and another NFL player today from September and he comes across as just another football jock who happens to be gay. He said that he didn’t know many other gay people as he was always focused on football but he is very proud to be a role model as he has learned of teenagers who committed suicide rather than come out. He also mentioned that he has a partner now and is happier than he’s been before in both his professional and personal life. He seems like an intelligent, personable and handsome young guy.

 

[mikeyank]

I again posted these pics in the wrong forum, please forgive me, Mike as I said the senility thing.

My question is why after you apologized, and realized that this was the wrong thread did you made another dozen or so posts of naked random guys on this thread? Again, this forum belongs to all of us and you can post whatever you like wherever you like but it just puzzles me, but it is totally trivial so it doesn’t really matter.

 

[kgmets]

Stayed up late to watch Dodgers upset Giants 2-1. Cody Bellinger who drove in the winning run in post game interview complimented the Giant pitcher who was so effective previously, using the phrase "He shoved it up our butts twice before!" Young Cody is a smoking hot young California dude, so that made it even hotter that he spoke in terms of an opposing player shoving it up his hot ass! P.S. game ended on a controversial swinging strike call against former Met Wilmer Flores, which appeared questionable.

 

[mikeyank]

Stayed up late to watch Dodgers upset Giants 2-1. Cody Bellinger who drove in the winning run in post game interview complimented the Giant pitcher who was so effective previously, using the phrase "He shoved it up our butts twice before!" Young Cody is a smoking hot young California dude, so that made it even hotter that he spoke in terms of an opposing player shoving it up his hot ass! P.S. game ended on a controversial swinging strike call against former Met Wilmer Flores, which appeared questionable.

I was watching it too KG and I also chuckled when Cody used that expression, “shoved it up our butts” to the female reporter on live TV lol. And I also remember Clay’s dad Cody Bellinger who was a utility player for the Yankees in the late 1990’s.

 

[kgmets]

I was watching it too KG and I also chuckled when Cody used that expression, “shoved it up our butts” to the female reporter on live TV lol. And I also remember Clay’s dad Cody Bellinger who was a utility player for the Yankees in the late 1990’s.

The more I think of it, particularly 18-25 year old straight athletes love smack talk and have a strange obsession with working male on male anal sex into it (in the figurative sense and not the literal sense of course), somehow equating winning with being the top and losing being the bottom. Cody's remark was only unusual in the sense that it was said on national TV instead of in the dugout or locker room! Cody was by no means being homophobic as he was calling himself the bitch bottom the two previous times the Giants' young pitcher shut the Dodgers down (in the figurative sense of course)! The flip side of that was when Cody returned the Dodger locker room having delivered the game winner hit off of that same Giants' pitcher, he was probably declaring that he had just revenge fucked the same young pitcher, again in the figurative sense! Any sports reporter, male or female, who immediately post game interviews a young jock who just made the game winning play and is in the heat of emotion, should know that lots of inappropriate things for national TV could come out of his mouth, usually the f . . . word but sometimes something like Cody spontaneously blurted out last night! Wonder if young Cody received a phone call from his mother this morning!