Politics Discussion (BE RESPECTFUL)

[mikeyank]

I was texting with a friend on Tuesday night during the speech and I told him that I was counting how many times he mentioned Joe Biden. I said beforehand that my over/under was 10 and I was taking the over. I stopped counting at eleven, but I see the final tally was 13. What a dipshit, our President is.

 

[chac54]

It's a disgrace, he is clearly not there for the people of America. We are just ATM's for him and his billionaire cronies.

 

[sjhuk85]

Came across this this morning (it's 4 months old but gettign more prescient everyday)

 

[mikeyank]

 

[juanjo]

Here is where we have arrived - the 21st Century version of the Deportations to the East run by the Nazis. Hundreds of men were rounded up, given not even the pretense of a judicial review of the evidence against them as required by law, and placed on planes to El Salvador where they have been locked up in forever prisons.

The government says they are all dangerous gang members. Fine, where is the evidence? Why wasn't it presented to a judge who could rule on it and issue an order of deportation? And why are they sent to a 3rd country where they are being locked up for the rest of their lives - with the US government paying the president of El Salvador millions of dollars to do so?

For over 100 years the Supreme Court has ruled that anyone within the borders of the United States is entitled to the same basic rights to trial, presentation of evidence, etc as a citizen. And now we have strong evidence presented by attorneys for some of these men that they were legally in the country, they had no criminal records either in their home countries or in the United States, and they were not members of any gang. One was a professional soccer player and another was a barber. The truth is we have no idea what the legal status was for any of these people, much less what crimes they may have committed. Some of them may have been citizens - we have no way of knowing. Often people scream about something being fascist when it really isn't but this is truly something fascist. It violates everything this country has stood for.

 

[mikeyank]

You are 100% correct juanjo. When will the majority of the MAGA lemmings realize what is going on? I am remindied of this referring to Hitler and the Nazis. :

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

 

[Jaybifla]

HA FUCKING HA!

Democrat wins Wisconsin Supreme Court race, defeating a Republican that Donald Trump and Elon Musk were strongly pushing. Musk put MILLIONS of dollars into this race. Fuck Musk and Fuck Trump!

 

[chac54]

It's one more step forward. Unfortunately looks like the Florida special elections went Republican, but by a smaller margin

 

[mikeyank]

“When a clown moves into a palace he doesn't become a king, the palace instead becomes a circus.
- Turkish proverb”

 

[mikeyank]

It’s really ridiculous how many homophobic Republicans are “homos”. And according to a podcast I was watching on YouTube, this is not a new phenomenon at all.

 

[mikeyank]

 

[juanjo]

Almost a month ago, on March 23rd, I posted a comment about the Trump Regime's decision to illegally arrest and remove people from the country with no Due Process. [BTW, the spell correct program I use keeps trying to remove the word illegally from that sentence.] I have been heartened by the courts starting to push back against this nonsense. It is also good to see regular people coming onto the street and pushing back. Sadly, far too many people are falling for the regime's propaganda about "violent criminals", "dangerous gang members", not to mention the constant refrain that these criminal illegal aliens do not get to receive Due Process. It is imperative that everyone speak out loudly when they hear people use that language. This is the language of a fascist regime. It is designed to dehumanize and "other" the targets of governmental oppression. The Nazis, the Russians - including the Czarists, Communists, and the Putinists, Mao, and other authoritative regimes as well have used that language to paint their opponents as some less than human.

We have a Constitution, and while not perfect, it is pretty good. Under the 5th and 14th Amendments, every person inside the borders of the United States is entitled by right to equal protection and due process of the law. It does not matter if the person's family traces itself back to the Revolution or obtained citizenship yesterday. It does not matter that they are permanent residents or hold some other legal status that allows them to be in the country. It does not matter if they are a tourist or if they ran across the border in the middle of the night. If the government wants to arrest and remove them from the country, it has to go before a judge and present evidence to support its position. And the accused person has the right to contest that claim, present evidence to disprove it, and have a judge decide the matter.

This is not just my opinion. The Supreme Court just reminded Trump of it last week in Trump v JGG, et. al., 604 US ___ [2025] -
“It is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law” in the context of removal proceedings. Reno v. Flores, 507 U. S. 292, 306 (1993). So, the detainees are
entitled to notice and opportunity to be heard “appropriate to the nature of the case.” Mullane v. Central Hanover Bank & Trust Co., 339 U. S. 306, 313 (1950)."