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Long Beach Pride Here We Cum - May 18 and 19

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For many years now we have made Long Beach one of our stops for the pride tour. This year there will be no exception as we take Long Beach by storm with a new group of guys and an entire lineup of new products. I will keep you posted on which models will be joining me for this event.
 
For many years now we have made Long Beach one of our stops for the pride tour. This year there will be no exception as we take Long Beach by storm with a new group of guys and an entire lineup of new products. I will keep you posted on which models will be joining me for this event.



How about the rest of the schedule? It will be interesting to see how many of the year after year repeats there are and how many other viable cities are ignored.

I will repeat as I did last year - NYC is THE one place you should go yearly given that it is the home of Stonewall - the birthplace of the modern gay rights movement. Yes, it is expensive but then you should cut back on some of the same old places you go every year.


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I think I've been to Long Beach as a kid but I'm not sure. Is it near Pebble Beach where the golf course is - I can remember that.
 
I think I've been to Long Beach as a kid but I'm not sure. Is it near Pebble Beach where the golf course is - I can remember that.

Pebble Beach is actually up North by San Francisco. Long Beach is further south by Los Angeles.
 
How about the rest of the schedule? It will be interesting to see how many of the year after year repeats there are and how many other viable cities are ignored.

I will repeat as I did last year - NYC is THE one place you should go yearly given that it is the home of Stonewall - the birthplace of the modern gay rights movement. Yes, it is expensive but then you should cut back on some of the same old places you go every year.


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I will be updating the rest of the schedule shortly. NYC didn't make our list this year. As you know, we did attend NYC Pride last year and we had a great time as it is one of my favorite cities in the country to visit.

Unfortunately it is absolutely impossible for us to go to every single pride around the country each year as many are on the same date. Our selection of festivals to attend are based on data we collect each year from both member location and potential member location. Even last year NYC did not rate high on that list but due to member request we tried it out and skipped St Louis last year. St Louis has always proven to be a great city for us to attend as most of the cities in the midwest area are. I would like nothing more to attend NYC Pride each and every year but it has to make sense for our company to do so. It isn't about the cost of the pride, it is more about the fact that there are other cities that our booth makes a larger impression at.
 
How about the rest of the schedule? It will be interesting to see how many of the year after year repeats there are and how many other viable cities are ignored.

I will repeat as I did last year - NYC is THE one place you should go yearly given that it is the home of Stonewall - the birthplace of the modern gay rights movement. Yes, it is expensive but then you should cut back on some of the same old places you go every year.


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I will be updating the rest of the schedule shortly. NYC didn't make our list this year. As you know, we did attend NYC Pride last year and we had a great time as it is one of my favorite cities in the country to visit.

Unfortunately it is absolutely impossible for us to go to every single pride around the country each year as many are on the same date. I understand that; I'm not an idiot!

Our selection of festivals to attend are based on data we collect each year from both member location and potential member location. So basically what you are saying is that unless there is a significant increase or decrease in data collected from either member location and/or potential member location you would be going to many if not most of the same cities every year. Then why ask us forumites for ideas of where to go if your decisions are based on objective data collection?

Even last year NYC did not rate high on that list but due to member request we tried it out Sometime you have to go to a place because it is the right place to be. And last year NYC was a last minute addition. Who knows with a year to plan you might be able to do a top notch marketing job and increase your presence in the NYC metro area. Also many people from other cities and states go to NYC Pride. Your presence would be exposed to those people as well.and skipped St Louis last year. St Louis has always proven to be a great city for us to attend as most of the cities in the midwest area are.

I would like nothing more to attend NYC Pride each and every year but it has to make sense for our company to do so. It isn't about the cost of the pride, That's not what you said last year when I first suggested NYC. You cited the expense of NYC as an inhibiting factor and I responded by saying that DC has as high costs as NYC and yet you've gone there for several years and you could give up DC for NYC or alternate some of the other cities every other year so you have the funds for NYC every year. it is more about the fact that there are other cities that our booth makes a larger impression at. True, the smaller the pond, the larger the impression a smaller fish can make. But if the smaller fish plans earlier and gets a better booth position and maybe comes up with some new innovative ideas geared to a larger pond, then the smaller fish can make a larger impression in that pond.


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Pebble Beach is actually up North by San Francisco. Long Beach is further south by Los Angeles.

Thanks Sha. Yes we passed by Pebble beach on our way back from SF, we took the coast road and we visited I think it was Howard Hughes place. It was August so the weather was fabulous but my dad couldn't get used to the US speed limits lol.
 
Stowie - London was also the birthplace for the uk prides as it was for Stonewall uk. However, the organisers got too greedy so many of the people boycotted London and went to Brighton and Manchester instead. But now the same is happening at Brighton and Manchester so smaller prides are more common and more successful and cheaper on the pocket than the big cities.
 

Stowe,

Let me start off by saying that I of course don't think you are an idiot and I would certainly never call someone something like that as I try to always be respectful towards others. I was simply pointing out that there are many events across the country and as hard as we try, we will never make everyone happy.

We have been doing events for years now and we ask members for feedback because we listen to our members and factor that in to our decision making with the statistics that we get each year. From year to year some events stay the same where others may fade away. One example is that we will be in Cincinnati this year as well as Los Angeles and both of those cities have never been visited by Broke Straight Boys.

In regards to your comment on going to a city because it is the right place to be, I feel that we do. We go to places that are selected by the combination of our members info and potential member info. I am pretty certain that when you say "the right place to be", you refer to NYC being the birthplace of the modern gay rights movement. Although I see your point I will say that from traveling around the country each and every single pride event is just as important as the next. Where being gay has become much more acceptable in NYC, there are cities that have not been as open to the gay community (I like to call those underserved areas). When we show up at these events we become part of that community and we are able to help others in learning how to embrace the gay community as well as help attendees feel more comfortable with who they are and know that it is ok to be a member of the GLBT community. Even though the movement started at Stonewall in NYC, fortunately it has moved across the country.

Yes last year we attended NYC last minute after we decided to take the advice of our members and switch events. We had an excellent location and we did ample marketing at the event. I am not saying that it didn't work, I am just saying that when I look at each event that is available for us to attend that particular weekend, NYC isn't the event that makes the best business decision this year. We have only visited DC two times in our entire time touring and it is not on the list this year. We review our schedule each year and as I stated before, some events stay and some go. We even rotate events from year to year. All events are expensive so we plan carefully. Although some may not always agree, we are blessed with a great team that does their homework when it comes to events. I wish we could make everyone happy all of the time but I know that is impossible to do. I hope that you understand where I am coming from. Thanks for your feedback.
 
Stowie - London was also the birthplace for the uk prides as it was for Stonewall uk. However, the organisers got too greedy so many of the people boycotted London and went to Brighton and Manchester instead. But now the same is happening at Brighton and Manchester so smaller prides are more common and more successful and cheaper on the pocket than the big cities.

Jon,
Unfortunately that is happening on this side of the pond as well. Many festivals have become very political in nature. Almost all of the pride events have become rather expensive to attend and when you have a group like ours, travel isn't cheap. We also have many events that are run completely by the lesbian community and even though our booth is always very tasteful and respectful, they tend to look down on companies like ours.
 
We also have many events that are run completely by the lesbian community and even though our booth is always very tasteful and respectful, they tend to look down on companies like ours.

Give lesbians a bit of power and there you go. I heard that the US army was sending out a platoon of lesbians to take on the North Korean army.
 
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Sha - I doubt we will ever see eye to eye on this issue, and I should probably let it go, but there are some comments that I just have to make on your last post:



Stowe,

Let me start off by saying that I of course don't think you are an idiot and I would certainly never call someone something like that as I try to always be respectful towards others. I was simply pointing out that there are many events across the country and as hard as we try, we will never make everyone happy. I know you didn't say or even imply that I was an idiot. The reason that I stated it that way was because your writing that there are so many pride events and a lot of them overlap datewise is so obvious, that to state it could lead someone to infer that you did not think they were working with a full deck. You are not that kind of person from what I can determine from seeing you interface with models and others on all the BTS videos, but words and how they are used to convey a thought are important.


We have been doing events for years now and we ask members for feedback because we listen to our members and factor that in to our decision making with the statistics that we get each year. You didn't say that in your original post; you just cited the collection and use of data. Now the question is how do you get members feedback? Is it just from the thread that you start or Mark starts every year asking for recommendations from forumites as to where to go? How about feedback from non-forumite members? Or is there some deeper feedback and from which members do you get that? From year to year some events stay the same where others may fade away. One example is that we will be in Cincinnati this year as well as Los Angeles and both of those cities have never been visited by Broke Straight Boys.


In regards to your comment on going to a city because it is the right place to be, I feel that we do. We go to places that are selected by the combination of our members info and potential member info. I am pretty certain that when you say "the right place to be", you refer to NYC being the birthplace of the modern gay rights movement. Although I see your point I will say that from traveling around the country each and every single pride event is just as important as the next. I'm sure that is true. I know here in the 'burgh our Pride celebration is most important to us so I can logically assume that every community feels the same way about theirs; otherwise, why have it in the first place? And you are right about what I mean about the right place to be. New York is the epicenter, without Stonewall there would be no pride events anywhere. In this instance I see NYC Pride as the first among equals, sort of like the Patriarch of Constantinople is in the Greek Orthodox church.


Where being gay has become much more acceptable in NYC, there are cities that have not been as open to the gay community (I like to call those underserved areas). When we show up at these events we become part of that community When you say "become part of that community", what community, the gay community or the community where the pride event is located?


and we are able to help others what "others"? members of the non-gay community?in learning how to embrace the gay community exactly how does this work? You're saying the the presence of Broke Straight Boys at a Pride event is going to get "others" to embrace the gay community. These "others" wouldn't be going to the pride event anyway, so how does our presence have an affect on how these "others" feel about the gay community?


as well as help attendees feel more comfortable with who they are and know that it is ok to be a member of the GLBT community. Now this makes more sense. Although I would imagine in this day and age you are not going to have any sizable Pride event in a place where intolerance is high. Let's say that the gays and lesbians in Jackson, Miss. decided to have a pride event. It would be so small and fledgling, that Broke Straight Boys wouldn't go even if it could help those g's & l's be more comfortable being who they are and members of the GLBT community because the costs could not be justified..


Even though the movement started at Stonewall in NYC, fortunately it has moved across the country. Fortunately, it has. But as I stated above, without Stonewall there would be no Pride events and thus NYC Pride should be treated accordingly. If you don't want to go every year, then every other year.


Yes last year we attended NYC last minute after we decided to take the advice of our members and switch events. We had an excellent location and we did ample marketing at the event. I am not saying that it didn't work, I am just saying that when I look at each event that is available for us to attend that particular weekend, NYC isn't the event that makes the best business decision this year. We have only visited DC two times in our entire time touring and it is not on the list this year. We review our schedule each year and as I stated before, some events stay and some go. We even rotate events from year to year. All events are expensive so we plan carefully. Although some may not always agree, we are blessed with a great team that does their homework when it comes to events. I wish we could make everyone happy all of the time but I know that is impossible to do. I hope that you understand where I am coming from. Thanks for your feedback. Yes, despite my disagreement with you guys on how to treat NYC Pride and going back to some of the same places year after year (admittedly I'm like a dog with a bone on these issues- lol!!), I do agree most wholeheartedly, that you and the models who work the Pride circuit do an excellent job in not only representing Broke Straight Boys, but also in affirming the GLBT community and that porn is part of who and what we are just as in the non-gay community and we take Pride in that.


Despite all this backwards and forward on these matters, Sha, I do want to thank you, Broke Straight Boys mgmt, and the models for doing the terrific job you do. I'm 71 and don't know if I will live long enough for you guys to get back to the 'burgh, but I sure do enjoy watching the BTS videos from where you do go.


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I have confirmed that Adam Baer, Paul Canon and Brandon Beal will be joining me for Long Beach Pride.
Wow Sha, that is an incredible threesome. I sure wish it was Long Beach Long Island and not California. PLEASE do some long form BTS with this lovely trio, somewhat similar to what you did with the boys last year in New York, in the hotel room, and at various touristy places.

And please give Paul a kiss on the cheek for me, or any other part of his lovely body. :drool:

Have fun. Sure wish I could be there.
 
i am looking forward to seeing you again and meeting the guys.

Lucky you! I wish I could meet them too! Enjoy and feel free to tell us how it was to meet the guys. Especially, Paul and Adam! :)
 
Wow Sha, that is an incredible threesome. I sure wish it was Long Beach Long Island and not California. PLEASE do some long form BTS with this lovely trio, somewhat similar to what you did with the boys last year in New York, in the hotel room, and at various touristy places.

And please give Paul a kiss on the cheek for me, or any other part of his lovely body. :drool:

Have fun. Sure wish I could be there.

hahaa im pretty excited to go
 
:bump: It's coming up soon! How excited are you guys?
 
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