Johnny & Lucas go barebacking - high 5!

[joninliverton]

Clay,

It is good to have you fill us in on some of the behind the scenes information. With that said, I'd like to follow-up with the following points:

1. If the progression scene had a model quitting mid-scene, It should not be showed as an episode. It is incomplete. It could be shown as a behind the scene, because in a sense we can get a taste of what happens when things don't go right.

2. One of the biggest pet peeves since the beginning of Broke Straight Boys has been showing the episodes in order. Are they being shown in order of being shot or not? If not what can be done to make that happen?

3. You talk about a "warm up" before the shoot. Is this done with all scenes? Most scenes? or? One of the great success is when things happen spontaneously. Are most shoots scripted and/ or "warmed up".

I know some of the posters have stated they feel Lucas has more experience than he leads us to believe. Is it possible some models may say something to you and it may not be so? It has happened in the past when a model says one thing and it is believable and later on in reality it is not. could this be a possibly with Lucas?

Thanks for taking the time to following up with us.

Live Long and Prosper,

Vicekid

Hi Vicekid - nice to see you posting again.

Yes you are correct about the filming out of sequence that we all love to hate - this goes back to BSB1 when it was much worse. However, I guess the priority was to get the first bareback scene out of the way..

 

[tampa24]

And on another note, one of my constant refrains to the guys, ad nauseum, it to annouce their cum-shot prior to actual orgasm. It is one of my pet peeves when the guys forget.

Thanks for responding to that Clay!

I never should have even entertained the idea that you were the one who didn't think about telling a model to announce a hidden cumshot to the audience. (And presumably to the camera crew so they can get the best angle possible of at least the orgasm) I apologize Clay. Sincerely. I'm glad you agree that announcing cumshots is better. It is easy to believe that working with amateur models instead of professional ones, that they flake out in the physical intensity of the moment and forget to announce their orgasms and cumshots.

Johnny should be spanked. He was a bad boy! LOL Even if it was in a delightfully sexy way. haha

Even with that part of the scene being a peeve of mine...as I say, I still gave it a 5. It was and is a very good scene. Thank you Clay. Thank you Johnny and thank you Lucas. Well done, all.

 

[juanjo]

Sorry Jon, but as long as I'm a paying member of this site, and I can still post my feelings and views, I will continue to express myself whenever and however I choose, and as long as the bareback sex troubles me, I will continue to comment on it, even if you have determined that "this bareback debate has gone on too long". You are certainly entitled to your opinion as to what is appropriate to discuss here, as I am, and I am not "over it", and not sure that I ever will be, but time will tell.

As Mikeyank says we are entitled to express our opinion. One wonders at the great upset at the disclaimer which I believe serves an important purpose of keeping the focus on the fact that there are very specific safety precautions taken before these scenes take place. Precautions that should not be forgotten lest one start to think that one can engage in casual sex with anyone without precautions and not face some serious consequences. If Jon does not like the disclaimer, he can simply skip it which I am sure he did anyway.

As for the scene, I was amused by the number of 5's by people who normally would have given much lower scores for a similar scene if it were done with a condom. I could not bring myself to rate it because of the lack of a condom but I thought it was very well executed by both models.

I certainly do not have an issue of either model or their initial reactions to doing gay sex. One of the more professionally competent male sex workers I ever met was a guy who did not like having sex with men. However given his arrest and jail record it was pretty much the only work he could get which provided good money since he was very fit and handsome while at the same time had a low risk of him returning to jail. Since he was supporting his girlfriend and his child this was important to him. So he sucked a lot of dick and took it up the ass.

 

[tampa24]

Just for the record, we did shoot some "progression" scenes with Lucas, one of which ended very strangely with the other model quitting mid-scene. It was an oral scene, and I believe we may release that at some point in the near future.

I agree with others who suggest that maybe some of Broke Straight Boys scenes that never saw the light of day because of mishaps on set...whether they be models walking out in the middle of scenes or premature orgasms that bring a scene to a halt...that they be considered for BTS vids. Maybe Broke Straight Boys could create a section of blooper vids, outtakes from scenes that are amusing or entertaining in their shock value and so on. Compilations of clips from multiple scenes might make an entertaining vid. Lucas' scene where someone walks out might be a good candidate.

At least in the BTS section, with an edited scene that perhaps is incomplete for whatever reason, nobody would be able to vote on it. It would be acknowledged up-front that this scene was never ready for prime time and is not being portrayed as such. It would obviously not be on the main site list of scenes and viewers would be invited to enjoy it "as is". I'm sure there are some scenes left in the editing room archives that cost a lot of money to produce but will not see the light of day on the main site for whatever reason. Perhaps this could be a way of getting some use and value out of bad investments from the past?

I recall that MTV's real World would have a show at the end of the season titled something like, "The #@%# They Should Have Shown". They showed clips that didn't make it into the regular episodes because they were gross, or too shocking or too sexual. And then they ended up showing them anyway. haha Maybe that idea could be some kind of subsection of the BTS vids?

Which scenes might air would also have to be weighed against viewer reaction to particular models. If a beloved model on the site comes across as a real jerk in an unaired scene, then perhaps that one would not be a good candidate for release on BTS. Better to leave viewers with the favorable impression they already have. If they are models who have been gone for ages and never got a good following going anyway...then it maybe they could still be aired.

There have to be some scenes in the vault where there were models turned away from the camera at the wrong time or came when the camera was pointed somewhere else. Models walking into cameras or accidentally elbowing the cameraman... Why not try to get some use out of these scenes and/or clips? I understand that the BTS section is one that mgmt wants to give a higher profile and priority to. This could be one more way to do just that.

 

[BenBen]

"Announcing your orgasm" sorry but it sounds so funny.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE I AM ABOUT TO ORGASM!

Maybe when the model gets lost in the moment they could insert a voice over, Clay does have a sexy voice and I bet he could do an announcer voice or maybe a golf announcer voice would be better, a sexy soft whisper "at this very moment johnny is having an orgasm" hehehe

With all seriousness now that I think about it I'd say most of the time when I'm with a man we do announce our orgasm to each other and I do like the men who get emotional about it. "BITCH I'm going to blast this load all over your face!"
"Get ready baby because HERE IT CUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMS"
"I'm about to pump you full of my juice"
"Get ready to swallow my big load"
I kind of like the Tarzan type yell I'M CAAA UUUU UUUU UUU MMM MMM ING!"
"Get ready fucker because I'm about to rain down my load all over you."

Maybe there could be an orgasm announcement workshop for those boys who are too quiet about it or forget to do it or just to teach them how to make it more dramatic? For those big shooters like Blake and Colin who just blast our a big fierce shower it could be more exciting if they had some flare when they made their announcement. Some of the guys sound almost ashamed when they make their announcement or like they're trying to hide it. Be a man yell it out let 'em know what's about to happen! The guys who just plop out or ooze out a few drops could greatly improve the situation if they at least made it sound like they felt some pleasure with the orgasm.

The challenge of all this is to make it sound real and not fake, so some practice would help out.

 

[lovelumps]

"Announcing your orgasm" sorry but it sounds so funny.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE I AM ABOUT TO ORGASM!

Maybe when the model gets lost in the moment they could insert a voice over, Clay does have a sexy voice and I bet he could do an announcer voice or maybe a golf announcer voice would be better, a sexy soft whisper "at this very moment johnny is having an orgasm" hehehe

With all seriousness now that I think about it I'd say most of the time when I'm with a man we do announce our orgasm to each other and I do like the men who get emotional about it. "BITCH I'm going to blast this load all over your face!"
"Get ready baby because HERE IT CUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMS"
"I'm about to pump you full of my juice"
"Get ready to swallow my big load"
I kind of like the Tarzan type yell I'M CAAA UUUU UUUU UUU MMM MMM ING!"
"Get ready fucker because I'm about to rain down my load all over you."

Maybe there could be an orgasm announcement workshop for those boys who are too quiet about it or forget to do it or just to teach them how to make it more dramatic? For those big shooters like Blake and Colin who just blast our a big fierce shower it could be more exciting if they had some flare when they made their announcement. Some of the guys sound almost ashamed when they make their announcement or like they're trying to hide it. Be a man yell it out let 'em know what's about to happen! The guys who just plop out or ooze out a few drops could greatly improve the situation if they at least made it sound like they felt some pleasure with the orgasm.

The challenge of all this is to make it sound real and not fake, so some practice would help out.

I love this post!!!!! Totally made me laugh out loud!

 

[Lucas.Weston]

Hi guys and gals, I'm back! First of all thanks to everyone for all the positive feedback and reviews. Second That was my first time being fucked, I extensively warmed up with a Dildo before the shoot. It was painful but I was able to get over it. I have been super excited about this scene coming out clay and I had discussed its potential and I knew it was going to be a hit. I hope you are all happily entertained, I'm back on the fourms now after a short hiatus. So feel free to ask any questions of me and if you just want to say something to me directly.

Thanks Lucas W.

 

[joninliverton]

Thanks for getting back Lucas and for rejoining this mad forum family...

 

[tampa24]

Welcome Back Lucas!

Welcome back Lucas! I'm glad to know you're still here in the forum. I was getting worried.

I always wonder what's it like for models after the shoots, as to how they interact. How was it with Johnny later? Did you feel awkward around each other or was it quite the opposite? Did you feel like you two shared a unique bond after the scene? Did you feel more open to displays of affection with him? Like resting a hand on his shoulder and so on? Any thoughts you'd be willing to share would be great.

Thanks!

 

[Lucas.Weston]

Welcome back Lucas! I'm glad to know you're still here in the forum. I was getting worried.

I always wonder what's it like for models after the shoots, as to how they interact. How was it with Johnny later? Did you feel awkward around each other or was it quite the opposite? Did you feel like you two shared a unique bond after the scene? Did you feel more open to displays of affection with him? Like resting a hand on his shoulder and so on? Any thoughts you'd be willing to share would be great.

Thanks!

Me and Johnny hit it off pretty well before and after the shoots, He is a great guy and really fun to be around. Not to toot my own horn but most people find me very charismatic and very easygoing. Honestly after the scene it was still very relaxed and easygoing.

 

[tampa24]

Me and Johnny hit it off pretty well before and after the shoots, He is a great guy and really fun to be around. Not to toot my own horn but most people find me very charismatic and very easygoing. Honestly after the scene it was still very relaxed and easygoing.

Thanks Lucas!

Not to sound ungrateful...but could you give us a little more than that? Do you feel closer to Johnny than you did before? Do you feel like maybe you are friends now? Does the experience among models give a sense of bonding? Or was it more a matter of, We did our job for the day and things are back to same place they were before the scene for us. ?

 

[angelone]

Bravo! Finally someone has the god-given intelligence to give us something from the past - precondom sex - and a way to do it safely for everyone involved in the scene.

 

[Lucas.Weston]

Thanks Lucas!

Not to sound ungrateful...but could you give us a little more than that? Do you feel closer to Johnny than you did before? Do you feel like maybe you are friends now? Does the experience among models give a sense of bonding? Or was it more a matter of, We did our job for the day and things are back to same place they were before the scene for us. ?

I felt like we where friends before, but definitely more of we did our job for the kind of thing. You have to understand we are straight guys we date girls fuck girls love girls in our personal life. So the usual bond you might get from sex is just not there at least for me, I don't know how johnny felt but I didn't get any kind of vibe from him like that.

 

[tampa24]

Thank you Lucas!

That's exactly the kind of answer I was hoping for. Honesty is always best the best policy. That way you don't have to have a good memory. lol The scene and the interaction between you looked very good on film. For some models they'll say it was a bonding experience for them that made them feel closer. But I also appreciate your honest answer that in this instance at least it was, "just another day at the office".