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Is an Online Degree as good as a Traditional Degree
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Jayman,
This is an important topic you started. I assume you are involved in one of these programs. Higher education has become so expensive that other methods are certainly necessary. I graduated from a private college back in the 60s; I got a good education. Notice the use of the colon. At full tuition I could not attend at present; it is over $40,000 per year. Of course there are scholarships and financial aid, but a whole lot of young people are coming out of college and graduate school with huge debt.
I think some majors would work well online. I don't think I would see a Doctor, MD, with an online degree. Some careers require hands-on, on campus training; other don't. For many careers, jobs, I like the mix of on-the-job combined with ongoing course work. Then you get the best of both worlds. There are many jobs out there today that are over-credentialied (is that a word, spellcheck says no). NYS requires a Masters within like 5 years to teach public school. That is bullshit. Some of the worse courses I have taken were on the graduate level in the field of education.
More later. I am retired and am drinking beer and watching porn; well, part time any way.
This is an important topic you started. I assume you are involved in one of these programs. Higher education has become so expensive that other methods are certainly necessary. I graduated from a private college back in the 60s; I got a good education. Notice the use of the colon. At full tuition I could not attend at present; it is over $40,000 per year. Of course there are scholarships and financial aid, but a whole lot of young people are coming out of college and graduate school with huge debt.
I think some majors would work well online. I don't think I would see a Doctor, MD, with an online degree. Some careers require hands-on, on campus training; other don't. For many careers, jobs, I like the mix of on-the-job combined with ongoing course work. Then you get the best of both worlds. There are many jobs out there today that are over-credentialied (is that a word, spellcheck says no). NYS requires a Masters within like 5 years to teach public school. That is bullshit. Some of the worse courses I have taken were on the graduate level in the field of education.
More later. I am retired and am drinking beer and watching porn; well, part time any way.
carking1
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Just a personal opinion, but I equate an online degree with calling someone a doctor just because he owned the game "Operation" when he was younger. I think a lot of this discussion stems from the fact that we are rearing a generation who believe that anything is possible online. On the contrary, some things, like a true education with hands-on learning and class interaction cannot be obtained online.
joninliverton
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Like getting real sex lol xx
Jayman,
The punctuation is a semicolon, not a colon. This could have been a typo; yes, my s - e - m - i keys were not working at the moment. Don't bring in CSI.
I wouldn't dream of it.
I agree. Just don't pass out. I don't want to be accused of on-line hazing practices.
Carking, I used to think the same way for a long time. I have had the benefit of doing both. I did my undergraduate work at traditional schools and my graduate work at an on-line school. I graduated obtaining my Associates degree from an Ivy League school. I also completed my BS degree at a major university. I can tell you I worked much harder obtaining my MS from a major on-line school accept for the video taped lectures. It was nice to be able to rewind the professor and replay them again. At all the schools I attended my grade point avg. was between a 4.0 and a 3.85 overall. I am still dyslexic and I still make typos. I kept thinking that maybe an education would help improve these things. LOL
The main thing that online schools lack is intrapersonal skills. I kind of feel like if a person does their undergraduate work at a traditional school; students really are not missing that much doing courses on-line for their graduate studies. In the olden days I understand that you had to master a foreign language to obtain a graduate degree. Many universities would require the students to do their thesis and oral dissertations in that foreign language. Yikes. I thank, (insert your own Deity of choice), that most colleges have removed this requirement.
I do understand your point entirely and I definitely respect your opinion. However, having lived it, I must say that with the: internship requirements, research papers, group projects, weekly discussion questions, and the proctored testing procedures I worked just as hard as any other graduate student if not harder. Also, when I did my thesis and oral dissertation, I did it at a local university with three professors from my on-line school on the video phone and three professors from that traditional school there in front of me.
Here is also another interesting thing to think about now. Schools like Penn State University now offer on-line graduate degree programs. The school I did my graduate work with is solely an on-line school. There no way to hide that fact. Yet, if a student graduates from Penn State University’s on-line graduate degree program, they receive the same degree as someone who attends the physical campus. Here is my question. How would anyone know they attended Penn State University on-line? In essence they work places and state agencies will accept the degree be cause it came from Penn State University only because they have a physical campus. Therefore, the lesson that I have learned is that it is OK to earn a degree on-line as long as the school has a physical campus and the degree is nationally and regionally accredited. So, is this fair??? Maybe not but it sure does help people seeking on-line schooling as an alternative.
carking1
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Jayman01, I accept what you are saying. I am old school. I think that a lot of what forms my opinion is what I see happening online in my day-to-day practical application. I work for an automobile agency and we advertise our products online. Day in and day out I get calls from prospective customers who want to buy a car online. I, for the life of me, can't comprehend how someone could purchase an item of that caliber without the benefit of a test-drive, product demonstration, and the ability to actually see their new car in person. We have created a generation who think that they are "too busy" to take the time to make an informed decision, whereas my opinion is that the internet has just made them too lazy to actually put any personal effort into it. What really irritates me is when they try to negotiate a price without any of the above. I feel that it is an affront to assume that my product isn't worth the advertised price, when, in reality, the internet market is so competitive that most of my cars are priced below market price just to get the shopper's attention. I'd like to see them call up Sear's and offer them less than the advertised price for a refrigerator.
I'm not saying that someone who gets an online degree is lazy, I am just saying that the internet has made most everything impersonal and mechanical. I still feel that a degree obtained in person is more well-rounded and in-depth, and the interaction of the students and professors is more valuable to the recipient, not in the terms of dollars and cents or marketability, but more personally fulfilling. Personal experience cannot be replaced electronically. Once again, just my opinion.
When I am hiring someone, I would definitely give the edge to a student who went to class in person rather than online.
I'm not saying that someone who gets an online degree is lazy, I am just saying that the internet has made most everything impersonal and mechanical. I still feel that a degree obtained in person is more well-rounded and in-depth, and the interaction of the students and professors is more valuable to the recipient, not in the terms of dollars and cents or marketability, but more personally fulfilling. Personal experience cannot be replaced electronically. Once again, just my opinion.
When I am hiring someone, I would definitely give the edge to a student who went to class in person rather than online.
Ms. Kianna
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I have college students that work for me. They attend the local junior college or the local State University. All of them have taken online classes through their college at least two or three times. They all tell me that the tests and projects for their online classes are harder than their regular classes, because of the fact that there is no personal interaction, collaboration, or study sessions, and they must sink or swim on their own.
carking1
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I think that students learn from each other just as much as from the professor. Take that away, and I can see where it would be more difficult.
On-line schools provide very little help if any for the most part. At a traditional university they have tutoring labs set up for extra help for students. Many on-line schools do not provide these labs. Instead, they will often recommend the student take the course from a traditional school because they are not quite ready for on-line learning. Scarry, but true...
Ms. Kianna
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Wow, as expensive as college is, you would think they would have some tutoring or labs set up online as well. In this day and age, it should be an easy thing to do.
OK, Maybe I exaggerated a little there. They offer tutoring but it is not like at a traditional school. Again, it is self paced and it is usually like a web video or a power point presentation with flash to help you. Students who need additional help need to talk to their program counselors or mentors about their specific needs. Sometimes the counselors or mentors can help. Many times the student's needs exceed what they can help with. However, I was told by several schools while I was inquiring that on-line programs were designed for the self motivated learners that have the ability to teach themselves. During the intake many schools have students take an entrance exam to be sure they have the skills necessary to do on-line studies. I am not sure. I never had to request any help other than to report a web link not working or something like that. Six of my closest friends have Ph.D's in my field. They have been hounding me for years to get my graduate degree so I could have a chance at making some real money. So, if hit a snag, I would usually ask for their help first. It only happened twice and they had the answer I needed. Plus, I had at least one of them review and edit all of my papers before submitting them. They respect the fact that I am dyslexic and they were always willing to help me with editing. So, I guess I am pretty lucky there
Jayman01
What field is your graduate studies in? Did you get a degree in evaluating gay porn sites?
Is there such a thing? Can one get a PhD in this? Do you work for a government entity? Is the government involved in evaluating gay porn sites? So many questions. lol.
What field is your graduate studies in? Did you get a degree in evaluating gay porn sites?
Is there such a thing? Can one get a PhD in this? Do you work for a government entity? Is the government involved in evaluating gay porn sites? So many questions. lol.
LOL. Tim, thanks for giving me a chuckle. We have all been asking mgt. about getting degrees in sexual studies or as sex therapists from this site. Slim, MarkyMark, Gremlin, Vice kid, Mike Yank, Tampa, and I were even working on course development for accreditation purposes. David, Eddie, and Tyler were our first honorary graduates. However, for some reason we have not been able to find a State willing to grant us licensure to operate as a formal institution of higher learning. Once we accomplish this goal I am certain our graduates will receive reciprocity.
Due to the recent scandals going on on Broke Straight Boys I will answer your other questions in an aloof manner.
I am a graduate of the University of Hard Knocks. I have a PhD as a Jack of all Trades. I use the computer a lot providing emergency health consulting, counseling, and customer service for multiple states. Many times I have two computers running while I am working. One computer is set to Broke Straight Boys for my entertainment pleasure during down time and the other is used for work purposes. Trust me my boss knows I am here on my down time. We have been friends for nearly 27 years. I even married her to her life partner. She knows I have mild ADD and I cannot stand sitting in one place without doing something constructive for long periods of time.
To my knowledge there is no one in the government on the clock monitoring gay porn sites specifically other than Home Land Security monitoring the internet for buzz words. Oh, and those guys who scope out pedophiles; they are probably on the site somewhere. Off the record, I am more than certain that there are members of the federal government that are members of this site. So, in that case I guess there could be government employees monitoring this site. I.e. Anyone enlisted in a branch of the service is the property of the US Government. They are salaried employees who are technically on duty 24/7.
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