Boy, stay away for a few days...
...and all hell breaks loose. I'm posting on this thread since it is the most recent of the three that have gotten people's knickers in a bunch. I read this thread when I came back to the forum today and it took me a while to figure out what was going on. Then I went back and read the entire "Jason Hartley solo" thread, and the "escort poll" so I could get caught up on everything. And then I went away for a while to compose MY thoughts and here they are. But let me be clear that I read all these posts and thematically grouped them in my mind. Thus, I don't necessarily remember who might have made the point which I am discussing. If I happen to, then I will mention it.
1. The escort poll thread - I did not participate in the poll or comment on it because it is something about which I could care less. But Frontier as a forum member has a right to ask the question, otherwise, I presume, one of the three administrators would have taken it down. And we members have the right to participate or not as we see fit. Also, I don't see it as leading to a "witch hunt" of models. If it does, then that person has too much time on his or her hands.
2.
Jake Hartley - unless he is a
Broke Straight Boys exclusive ( and I don't know if there is such a thing - many assumed
Jimmy Johnson was) then he has the right to model or escort on any site which will take him. That doesn't mean he's not BROKE, not STRAIGHT, and not a BOY. It just means he is trying to maximize his income streams. Whether or not it is legal or not is another question but as someone pointed out this "profession" has been around since the dawn of time.
3. Escorting itself - Thank God for it. My journey out of the closet was long and slow and I was married with children. The availability of escorts and hustlers and street trade provided me with the majority of my man on man sex experiences during that time. And many of the escorts, and the vast majority of the hustlers and street trade had one thing in common - they were STRAIGHT. While there are differing views amongst us as to the efficacy and morality of these particular jobs, I would caution that none of us get on our high horses with negative implications towards people who engage in them. After all, we are members of a porn site which does a similar thing. The site pays two people to have sex with one another for the pleasure of its members. When I called an escort service or picked up a hustler, I was paying him to have sex with me.
Broke Straight Boys is the middleman in the transaction and I get to voyeur these guys and if they are hot enough, get off to what I watch. People in glass houses ...
4. Actors vs. Models - When I first started posting on the forum and for quite awhile thereafter, I fought the battle of actor vs. model. And I lost because it seems that the term "model" is the industry standard at least among web-based porn sites. Bigger studios who traffic in full length porn films, are more apt to use actor, or those individuals who are adept in self-aggrandizement will refer to themselves as stars. But there is no doubt, at least to me, that there is some form of acting involved here. After all, the overwhelming majority of these guys are purportedly straight (and Jason assures us this is the case to the best of his knowledge) so they have to act as if they enjoy this gay sex. And the better they do that, the more popular they can become and vice-versa (remember some of the early models in bsb2?) Personally, I don't care what they call themselves or what they are called by others, as long as the work they do is hot and "melts my butter".
5. Causal link - some have implied that there is a causal link between the Escort Poll thread and the
Jake Hartley "reveal". I don't see it. People have been citing
Broke Straight Boys models past and present on other sites way before Frontier's poll was posted. Moreover, just before I started this post, I tried the link to that site and it came up that the page couldn't be found. Then I just went to the site directly and there was no picture of Jake or any info about him. I presume that means he was successful in having it taken down. And I see nothing odd or contradictory in that post on the escort site carrying the same name as used on
Broke Straight Boys Porn is replete wilth actors who do gay and straight and use the same name. There are exceptions I know (Matt Ramsey aka Peter North),but then there are Johnny Castle, Johnny Hazzard, Jeremy Bilding, Cliff Jensen, Tony Capucci to name a few who use the same name on both sides of the house. The same is true generally for people who do work on multiple gay sites.
6. Respect - In the more than year I've been posting here, I've come to know what certain people like and don't like. It might be the same as me or different. And I think we have a duty to each other as
Broke Straight Boys members and fellow forumites to extend respect qnd courtesy and civility to one another. Back in the dark ages when I was in college a wise Jesuit who was my English professor would often say that "ad hominem" arguments and attacks are the result of a weak intellect and an even weaker vocabulary. I think we need to keep that in mind.
7. Fantasy vs reality - Fantasy is a strange thing because it really depends on an individual's background and personal experiences. That's not to say many can't share the same general fantasy, but I think each of us has particular elements of a fantasy which are peculair to us. That's what makes this site so interesting. We all watch a scene and then when the comments get posted, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has read comments of others and thought, "Were they watching the same scene as I?" And we have to be respectful of those differences even as we might disagree with them. Also knowing that for some members fantasizing about a current model as "our"
Broke Straight Boys is important, then we should be circumspect in revealing information that would ruin the fantasy for them.
Well I don't think I forgot anything. That's how I see. Agree or disagree with all or in part that is your wont. A dear friend of mine who has helped me understand the site, its history; and appreciate the uniqueness of the forum reminds me from time to time not to take all of this too seriously, after all it is just a porn site. I think that is something we all should remember.
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