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centurion
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I think that one of the few who ABSOLUTELY refuses to bottom is the quiet boy Shane. Much too pseudo-macho to do anything like that. He has left/or is leaving the site anyway, because he is too quiet and intransient. Nice cock and body, but you need more than that to be a BIG hit on this site. We have been spoilt by some cracking guys on here, especially in the last 6 months.
I think there is a consensus on the site, that all guys should bottom, so they know what it feels like when they are pounding some first-timers' virgin rosebud. I can't argue with that.
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slimvintage
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Centurion dear man, you're probably right that there's a consensus. For the life of me I can't think why. If this is a reality site, we should expect to interface with the straighties' realities, and some of them won't bottom. And even if you discount the straighties, there are millions of very gay guys, sexually mega-active, who have never ever been fucked and hate even the idea of it.
The chant of "Get fucked, get fucked, get fucked or get out" seems like a good example of especially dumb, bullying mob mentality to me, and counter to the way life is. I love to see a Broke Straight Boys go wanton and bitchish, and writhe and growl and ask for more, and get stiff as a board with his buddy's dick in his ass, and zone out in ecstasy when he cums. But to witness some poor devil, flaccid and hurting, being slammed just to keep his job is distasteful.
It's no fun fucking a guy in pain anyway, unless his stiffy is telling you he likes it.
mikeyank
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I agree 100% with everything you said in this post Slim. I am vehemently opposed to those who say, "Get fucked or get the boot". There is a wide divergence among the gay community as to what we enjoy doing and viewing when it comes to gay sex. I am perfectly happy watching a straight boy go just so far with "getting his toes wet", in trying gay sex. If a guy like Shane who looks so good, and reacts with such passion to getting head and is so adept at fucking an ass, then why insist he do something that "is not him". But apparently the decision has been made, and I'm thrilled to see there is more Shane "in the can", (no pun intended), and we will be seeing more of lovely Shane on November 25. It will be a pre Thanksgiving feast for me.
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Slim, again I am with you 100%!!
I do not understand the mentality of some who insist that a dude must bottom or be let go. It's stupid and borders on sadism. How can you delight in and get your jollies out of watching some poor kid enduring such torture otherwise?
I say if a dude is giving us good performences and many happy endings as a top, don't run him off just because he won't take a stiff cock in the ass. Somtimes, check that, most times, the fantasy is way better than the reality anyway.
Example, the "Diesal Loves Jimmy" trilogy. The much anticipated scene where Diesal bottoms for Jimmy was a total let down for me. Clearly Diesal was enduring, not enjoying. Have we seen the last of Diesal because of it? Only David knows for sure, but I know I have not seen any post Jimmy episodes with Diesal in them. So let the tops be tops as long as they can give us a good fucking, and if lust gets the better of them and they want to bottom, all the better, but don't force them to, and don't run them off only because they won't bottom. To those that insist otherwise, get a life and quit being so shallow.
Laterz - Jason
slimvintage
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Ok Jace, we're together on this. What has to be said though is that David has mentioned a number of times that he needs the models to do more new stuff in order to continue to be interesting. In the Great Enormous Way of Things, that's understandable. David doesn't want two shoots to look too much alike, with the same guys doing much the same things.
But it's also true that some of these guys are just so hot, and such a pleasure to see, and even very cute refusing for the 6th or 7th time to even entertain the prospect of rear entry, that those specific guys should be given all kinds of slack. They can evolve in other ways: they can nuzzle the fuckee's neck while fucking him doggy, they can even brush his cheek with their lips for a nanosecond while doing him missionary. They can jack his dick while fucking him, they can touch his hair for chrissakes. There is a hot, albeit limited, repertoire of expressive gestures that's available to the straighties who are Top Only which, when practiced in a scene, would get the punters out in forumland sending in agitated congratulations to management for being so brilliant with the boys. Me being the most agitated and congratulatory.
A final word. Both of us have been too shrill toward, and disrespectful of, the guys on here who have been braying for boys who won't bottom to be banished. I was too emphatic with my rhetoric, and especially regret using "dumb". Uncalled for and untrue.
And finally finally, I loved the Diesal/Jimmy Trilogy, everything about it. Mainly because it came from them, not from any big bucks offered to Diesal to go through bottom torture. He and Jimmy assembled those scenes themselves. I would LOVE to know if they're together now and doing that shit on a daily basis.
Would really like to meet you Jason, in an ideal world you and I might even become besties...
slimvintage
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I agree 100% with everything you said in this post Slim. I am vehemently opposed to those who say, "Get fucked or get the boot". There is a wide divergence among the gay community as to what we enjoy doing and viewing when it comes to gay sex. I am perfectly happy watching a straight boy go just so far with "getting his toes wet", in trying gay sex. If a guy like Shane who looks so good, and reacts with such passion to getting head and is so adept at fucking an ass, then why insist he do something that "is not him". But apparently the decision has been made, and I'm thrilled to see there is more Shane "in the can", (no pun intended), and we will be seeing more of lovely Shane on November 25. It will be a pre Thanksgiving feast for me.
Mike, I went for the last post, which was Jason's. You and he said it all before my li'l fingies even touched the keys. Thanks to both you guys. I hope David catches this. It won't be news to him, but could serve to support the concept of certain models having specific sexual roles that are natural to them. Once that's accepted they should then be urged to find other vehicles for expression, to make up for the fact that they won't put out.
You have said that all so well Slim. There are many ways that the models who we love to see, but who still refuse to bottom, can do to keep reinventing themselves. CJ fell into a similar rut. He was and is a great guy who could entertain on camera. His star didn't begin to fall because he refused to bottom. Nor was it because he refused to top. He never evolved to kissing, moaning, grunting or any real intimacy. Something that his scenes sorely needed if he wanted members to keep wanting to see more of him. So his performances began to look like extremely predictable and stale. I hate to pick on him when he has another video coming out. He is still one of my all time favorites. But he's a great example of someone who proves your point.
A straight guy who receives head while his arms are draped across the back of the futon is not going to get many raving reviews from me. If he doesn't touch the guy giving him head or give him any verbal encouragement, it bothers me. If he just stares off in space at the porn while the other guy is down there working his ass off, choking and gagging...it tends to make him look like some cold, uninterested john being serviced by a hustler. Not that I would know. I don't. haha When the straight guy is new, then of course you cut him some slack. But after 5 or more scenes you expect more from him.
joninliverton
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Some models like to bottom, some like to top,
Some like to be versatile and some just flop.
Very few like to kiss, which is something I miss
And no one likes to rim, but that's up to them.
At the end of the day, it's just gay for pay
They do what they want but you won't turn them gay.
So let's leave it to the experts like David and Eddie,
To choose what we see for so little pennies.
Some like to be versatile and some just flop.
Very few like to kiss, which is something I miss
And no one likes to rim, but that's up to them.
At the end of the day, it's just gay for pay
They do what they want but you won't turn them gay.
So let's leave it to the experts like David and Eddie,
To choose what we see for so little pennies.
centurion
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Lord Byron himself couldn't have put it better. The Bard of Leeds eh??
Denny Bear
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Diesal is a Broke Straight Boys star. The expression on his face when a gy goes down on him is hot. He's become a better cock sucker, his kissing Jimmy was passionate, and he bottomed, may not have been his thing, but he tried. Di9esel is a keeper and I always look forward to seeing him. More Diesal, please.
