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Connor and Bradley

I loved the unprompted kissing, but other than that I am not pleased with this scene.

I think it was filmed terribly, ONCE AGAIN, we still have yet to see Bradley's hard dick. What is up with that? Is he impotent? And what is up with all these scenes where only one guy cums?

If I see one more scene that is filmed terribly, and/or one more scene where only one guy cums, I am cancelling my membership.

Is it that difficult to film in a way that shows us both guys in their full naked erect splendor, and where both performers cum?

This is gay porn, there is a basic yet essential formula in order for it to work: 2 GUYS ARE CLEARLY DEPICTED GETTING NAKED, GETTING HARD, AND BOTH CUMMING.

Of course it's not easy for straight guys to get hard doing gay porn but guess what...it's a basic job requirement. There are things that can be done to reduce this problem such as Cialis, Viagra, Vitamin C, not cumming for a week, whatever. But unfortunately, no matter how hot a guy is, if he can't get it up then he has no business doing porn.

There are also basic production requirements. Clearly show the performers doing their thing from various angles designed to show the viewers as much action as possible. Also, if one of the performers can't get it up and/or cannot cum, then the scene needs to be scrapped and reshot. Yes it's expensive, but just like if you go to a restaurant and the cook drops your steak on the floor or burns it to a crisp, they don't still send it out to you because it takes too much time or money to cook a new one.

I agree that an hard on an cumm shots are a must for gay porn.however this scene work for me becouse of newness of the modles.Also nice to see some tenderness on this site
 
I totally agree, mikeyank. I don't know what the fascination or the need is to see both guys cum. For me as long as the top cums, I'm happy. Back in the day when I was bottoming regularly, there were many times when I was having what I call "anal orgasms" that the last thing I thought about or needed was penile ejaculation while I was getting fucked. That served as something extra that my top took care of after he came. What I would like to see more of is what happened by accident to Chad when he fucked Anthony. He came in the condom while he was fucking. For me that was hot. However, what I would like to see when that happens is for the top to take the condom off and dribble the cum on the bottom's chest and stomach. That's hot to me.



I agree with you here, Ms. K. For me I think in anal scenes, there should be mutual blowjobs before the fucking begins.

And you make a good point about the editing. That was also the case at the end. After the kissing was over, Connor's dick slipped out because it had gone limp. He was able to stuff it back in soft because it was long enough. We don't know how long that whole process took before he was back fucking with any vigor and when he pulled out to cum we don't know how long it took him to get there. But in the latter case, editing was a blessing because I don't want to spend time watching a guy trying to get hard enough to produce a cumshot. But as with all editing, it should be done to enhance rather than detract from the scene.


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I actually agree with everything you say above, Stowe. I don't mean to imply that *both* guys need to cum in 100% of the scenes.

However, because of the frequency of one sided scenes where only one guy gets off, it seems like it's starting to become a trend.

I also agree with you 200% when you say that editing should be done to enhance, not detract from a scene.

I do think that my above comments were pretty harsh, and to Clay's credit I assume he told the boys before filming started to start kissing once they were fucking instead of ordering them to do it so we could hear (which I used to complain about every time it would happen). So bless his heart he is listening to our feedback, and making adjustments as needed but yet I still bitch and complain.

I would like to retract the harshness in tone of my above posts, and while I still feel the same way no one is perfect and no scene is ever perfect and never will be.

Hell some of you loved the scene and found no fault with it at all, so I will close by saying Connor and Bradley both did an outstanding job.
 
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, and yet, one more missed opportunity to have created an outstanding episode. I think this rated highly, only because of the anticipation and appreciation of both the newbies in this scene. It certainly could not have been for the editing, or the one-sidedness of the shoot.

I enjoyed it, but only because I find both guys hot, even though I prefer slimmer boys. Still, I am more attracted to their personalities than their bodies. I just like them both, and could certainly see myself going after both of these boys.

As for Clay, I am not sure about this, but I swear he sounds just like the dude that used to direct the shoots for either Straight Boys Jerk Off or BFT. Clay has a distinctive voice, and I am fairly certain I have heard it before. Perhaps MArk can enlighten us.
 
As for Clay, I am not sure about this, but I swear he sounds just like the dude that used to direct the shoots for either Straight Boys Jerk Off or BFT. Clay has a distinctive voice, and I am fairly certain I have heard it before. Perhaps MArk can enlighten us.
I do not view all that many different porn sites, but I did check out Straight Boys Jerk Off each week, when they were updating the site, and Clay is definitely not the dude who did that site. He had what I considered to be a "creepy" voice, whereas David was always personable and friendly.

I have still not formulated a definitive opinion of Clay yet. When we first were introduced to Broke Straight Boys-2, we did not even know Clay's name, and some of us on the forum lead by former forumite rrhill named him "Matthew", he seemed very mysterious and intriguing, and our own Slimvintage said that he found the new voice to be sexy, and speculated that he is young and relates well to the models.

Unfortunately either Mark or Clay himself have decided not to let Clay interact with us on the forum, which I first thought was a shame. But after the way Jimmy was viciously attacked by some forumite's, perhaps it is wise to keep him off.

But I would love to know who he is, what his background is, and if possible for him to explain himself regarding some of the issues that are always questioned on the forum.

As of now, I am ambivalent on Clay.
 
As far as for actors cumming, I grant that it is a standard that one pulls out and sprays out his cum for the audience's view. But it isn't necessary because like in Chad/Anthony scene where Chad came in Anthony, I had one of the best orgasm watching the effect of Chad's innocent mistake on tape. It would have been wonderful to see Chad spray out his cum on Anthony's back, but what happen was a unexpected and marvelous reality check - these things happen even with the best of intentions. It worked for me!
 
Hey Mikey,

Frankly, i don't really care. I was just curious. And you are quite right, it was best to keep him off the forum, I do mean Clay. And like you, I am kind of ambivalent about Clay. I am not crazy about him, but I also don't dislike him. If he has experience directing, then that tells me I definitely would not want to visit that website. I think he has improved here and I am sure that he tries to produce a shoot that the membership and management will be happy with. That being said, I doubt he will ever make even half the membership happy. IT is what it is. Instead of attacking or criticizing Clay, perhaps we should direct our opinions to the management. I don't know of any forumites who would be shy about doing so, lol.

angelone, I agree, Chad cumming inside of Anthony was priceless! I totally enjoyed it, but that doesn't mean I want to see that happen all the time. As David used to say, people want to see the money shot, for the most part. I think that is what is so disappointing when only one model cums. But I agree with those who feel that, if a model can't get or stay erect, much less cum, then why the heck is he here, and why does Broke Straight Boys continue to show them? After all, that is what we come here for. And yes, it is okay if every now and then, both models don't cum, but we should not be able to keep track of those episodes! Just my opinion, for what it is worth.
 
Clay is on the forum. He just doesn't post.

I am still pretty sure that he directs College Dudes.........When we ask Rob questions about having a fluffer, or when he gets to bottom, he says things like, "I have been asking Clay for that, but........." Why would Rob be asking Clay, if Clay wasn't his director?

If that is true, maybe he is so intent on making Broke Straight Boys "different" than College Dudes, that he purposely holds the guys back, when they want to do more............
 
Clay is on the forum. He just doesn't post.

I am still pretty sure that he directs College Dudes.........When we ask Rob questions about having a fluffer, or when he gets to bottom, he says things like, "I have been asking Clay for that, but........." Why would Rob be asking Clay, if Clay wasn't his director?

If that is true, maybe he is so intent on making Broke Straight Boys "different" than College Dudes, that he purposely holds the guys back, when they want to do more............


You are right, Ms. K! Unless Clay has a voice double out there somewhere, the voice on cdudes is his. I might be old and have trouble hearing when there is background noise, but the interview segments on cdudes don't have such noise and my hearing is excellent in that atmosphere. If it's not Clay, then it is someone who can sound just like him.


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Clay is on the forum. He just doesn't post.

If that is true, maybe he is so intent on making Broke Straight Boys "different" than College Dudes, that he purposely holds the guys back, when they want to do more............

Ms. K,

Do you really believe that? That would be great if that were the case, at least there would be an excuse. But the almost complete lack of intuitiveness at producing Broke Straight Boys shoots and the clamor of the membership, I doubt it! Still, its not so bad I want to leave, lol! Nor, do I wish to join College Dudes. I'll just sit and wait for those episodes that are truly off the chart! you know, the ones with little direction.

Thanks for the explanation though.
 
Hey Mikey,

Frankly, i don't really care. I was just curious. And you are quite right, it was best to keep him off the forum, I do mean Clay. And like you, I am kind of ambivalent about Clay. I am not crazy about him, but I also don't dislike him. If he has experience directing, then that tells me I definitely would not want to visit that website. I think he has improved here and I am sure that he tries to produce a shoot that the membership and management will be happy with. That being said, I doubt he will ever make even half the membership happy. IT is what it is. Instead of attacking or criticizing Clay, perhaps we should direct our opinions to the management. I don't know of any forumites who would be shy about doing so, lol.

angelone, I agree, Chad cumming inside of Anthony was priceless! I totally enjoyed it, but that doesn't mean I want to see that happen all the time. As David used to say, people want to see the money shot, for the most part. I think that is what is so disappointing when only one model cums. But I agree with those who feel that, if a model can't get or stay erect, much less cum, then why the heck is he here, and why does Broke Straight Boys continue to show them? After all, that is what we come here for. And yes, it is okay if every now and then, both models don't cum, but we should not be able to keep track of those episodes! Just my opinion, for what it is worth.

In terms of personality, I could take or leave him (Clay). Actually, he really doesn't seem to have much personality at all, he always speaks with a bored sounding, detached, monotone type voice that gives the impression that he would be more excited watching paint dry. BUT, some people are just like that and in director Clay, he's not a big part of the scenes like David was on Broke Straight Boys 1.0. David really engaged the models, engaged the viewers, made us laugh, and made the guys laugh. Many of the scenes were truly enhanced by David's humor, his corniness at times, his obscene decisions to pay one straight guy $1,500 to get his cock sucked, and then the gay boy in the scene only $100 "since he's already gay anyway". But it was all done in fun, and some of that was so downright hilarious and comical because in real life nothing like that would really happen.

But with Broke Straight Boys 2.0, the scenes tend to revolve more around the models themselves, which isn't necessarily a bad thing....especially with someone as dull and listless at times as Clay appears to be. And again, I'm not faulting Clay for being rather laid back personality wise, I'm sure he's a fine person.

So while I too am ambivalent regarding Clay from a personality perspective, I do think that the production decisions that are made at times, along with some of the sub par camera work...and in some cases even the editing is shockingly bad...could really use some much needed improvements.

With that being said, the scenes without a doubt have come a long, LONG way since the initial relaunch of Broke Straight Boys version 2.0.
 
Clay is on the forum. He just doesn't post.

If that is true, maybe he is so intent on making Broke Straight Boys "different" than College Dudes, that he purposely holds the guys back, when they want to do more............

I think you're right MsK. That is especially true of Rocco for instance. He's absolutely gorgeous (especially with hair) and can perform like a well oiled machine. But many times his affect is very flat, dry, stiff and business-like. He's obviously been told told to play it very straight and hold back on being enthusiastic. That's why I have suggested that Clay let him recalibrate his screen persona on Broke Straight Boys to be a little more demonstrative. He's fully capable of going off the deep end of heart pounding, yelling, no holds barred, gay for pay action over at College Dudes. His performances on Broke Straight Boys would benefit greatly by allowing him to inch a little closer in that direction over here, while still allowing him to be believably straight.

My two cents anyway...
 
I think you're right MsK. That is especially true of Rocco for instance. He's absolutely gorgeous (especially with hair) and can perform like a well oiled machine. But many times his affect is very flat, dry, stiff and business-like. He's obviously been told told to play it very straight and hold back on being enthusiastic. That's why I have suggested that Clay let him recalibrate his screen persona on Broke Straight Boys to be a little more demonstrative. He's fully capable of going off the deep end of heart pounding, yelling, no holds barred, gay for pay action over at College Dudes. His performances on Broke Straight Boys would benefit greatly by allowing him to inch a little closer in that direction over here, while still allowing him to be believably straight.

My two cents anyway...

It almost tempts me to join a trial membership on College Dudes to watch Rocco behaving completely different over there!

What was he like in his scene(s) over there?

Mark if you're listening, if you ever decide to give us anymore free College Dudes scenes to watch, maybe instead of making us watch Rob Ryder again maybe you could let us watch Rocco in action?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
What was he like in his scene(s) over there?

I haven't joined College Dudes yet either. I've just watched the teaser clips of him. He has a whole different personality over there. It's way too strong for a "straight model" site like Broke Straight Boys (Although it works great for College Dudes! haha) But I think he and Clay have settled on a personality for him here on Broke Straight Boys that is too restrictive, given the range of his acting abilities.
 
It almost tempts me to join a trial membership on College Dudes to watch Rocco behaving completely different over there!

What was he like in his scene(s) over there?

Mark if you're listening, if you ever decide to give us anymore free College Dudes scenes to watch, maybe instead of making us watch Rob Ryder again maybe you could let us watch Rocco in action?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Jack has also gone to College Dudes, Abe.

If they take CHAD, I am going to organize a picket line outside of Mark's office.:cursing::cursing::cursing:
 
I haven't joined College Dudes yet either. I've just watched the teaser clips of him. He has a whole different personality over there. It's way too strong for a "straight model" site like Broke Straight Boys (Although it works great for College Dudes! haha) But I think he and Clay have settled on a personality for him here on Broke Straight Boys that is too restrictive, given the range of his acting abilities.

Calling all College Dudes members, calling all College Dudes members, if anyone has seen any of Rocco's work over there, please share with those of us who have not seen it, what is he like in his scenes over there? I'm fascinated to see if he has a different personality in those scenes than he does in his Broke Straight Boys scenes.

But PLEASE tell us he doesn't wail and scream, and sound like a dying cow who is also in heat!
 
I haven't joined College Dudes yet either. I've just watched the teaser clips of him. He has a whole different personality over there. It's way too strong for a "straight model" site like Broke Straight Boys (Although it works great for College Dudes! haha) But I think he and Clay have settled on a personality for him here on Broke Straight Boys that is too restrictive, given the range of his acting abilities.

Acting abilities? Frankly I couldn't tell you. From what I see of Rocco here on Broke Straight Boys, he acts about as much as a good vibrator with Energizer batteries. That doesn't take much acting ability.
 
I'll join that line too Ms. K and Abe. Count me in! IT's bad enough they took Jack.
 
David really engaged the models, engaged the viewers, made us laugh, and made the guys laugh. Many of the scenes were truly enhanced by David's humor, his corniness at times, his obscene decisions to pay one straight guy $1,500 to get his cock sucked, and then the gay boy in the scene only $100 "since he's already gay anyway". But it was all done in fun, and some of that was so downright hilarious and comical because in real life nothing like that would really happen.
:lol: Abe you make me laugh thinking about David's clumsy charming personality. He was so often politically incorrect, with Asian and Jewish jokes, as well as other's, but he meant no harm. He was so lovable, and trying to make everyone feel comfortable. I do miss David on this site.
 
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