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So here I am again, the guy who really does not like solos starting a comment on a solo. First, Ando is a nice looking young man with a sexy voice. Kind of understated seeming sort of guy. Makes me wonder what happens when he gets all excited and lets it all go wild and loose. I know some will not like the tattoos but I do. he reminds quite a bit of a former client who went by the nickname, "Irish". Similar build, similar face right down to the scruff and similar tattoos. Irish was the kind of guy you had to get to know, he was pretty laconic until he got to know you and then his humor and character really shone forth. I am wondering if Ando is similar in that respect as well.

Long and short of it is a solo does not really give anyone much of an idea of how a person is going to respond in the scenarios found here. I look forward to seeing how Ando develops.
 
Very interesting commentary juanjo, thanks.

This video was very unsettling for me. I found Ando to be very sexy (agree with your observations about his voice and understated manner). I like the look and his demeanor and relish seeing more of him.

But, sorry the direction was terrible! I've been onstage as a moderator dozens of times. If I was this unprepared ("what's your name again?"; "you like to fight?") I would be fired. Stupid, self-centered comments, hardly a way to get the viewer (or the model) in an aroused mood! How could this get a newbie relaxed? So much potential turned into the Johnny Show. Why?
 
So here I am again, the guy who really does not like solos starting a comment on a solo. First, Ando is a nice looking young man with a sexy voice. Kind of understated seeming sort of guy. Makes me wonder what happens when he gets all excited and lets it all go wild and loose. I know some will not like the tattoos but I do. he reminds quite a bit of a former client who went by the nickname, "Irish". Similar build, similar face right down to the scruff and similar tattoos. Irish was the kind of guy you had to get to know, he was pretty laconic until he got to know you and then his humor and character really shone forth. I am wondering if Ando is similar in that respect as well.

Long and short of it is a solo does not really give anyone much of an idea of how a person is going to respond in the scenarios found here. I look forward to seeing how Ando develops.

Well shit, you little eager beaver, it's only 10:20 here in Dallas...give a girl a chance; you much cum faster than I!:shock: Anyway, I gave Ando a "4" and I would definitely like to see more of him....AND Johnny. For Ando, he does seem the quiet type, and those eyes are gorgeous, like a Basset Hound...yum. I also like the silence as he came: I guess he had to be quiet with dad in Special Forces and all. I would love to see an interview with him and maybe Cage Kafig asking him the questions, since they're both into MMA. Yep, please bring him back; I still can't tell if he would be a better bottom or top? "Butt" I'd love to find out!:drool:
 
Very interesting commentary juanjo, thanks.

This video was very unsettling for me. I found Ando to be very sexy (agree with your observations about his voice and understated manner). I like the look and his demeanor and relish seeing more of him.

But, sorry the direction was terrible! I've been onstage as a moderator dozens of times. If I was this unprepared ("what's your name again?"; "you like to fight?") I would be fired. Stupid, self-centered comments, hardly a way to get the viewer (or the model) in an aroused mood! How could this get a newbie relaxed? So much potential turned into the Johnny Show. Why?

I was under the impression that those questions were for the benefit of the viewers. I'd be gobsmacked if the director actually didn't already know these things.
 
I was under the impression that those questions were for the benefit of the viewers. I'd be gobsmacked if the director actually didn't already know these things.

You might be right, Advocate. But at the end of the video (I did really like Ando!) calling Ando by the wrong name is, IMHO, not amusing, or endearing, or motivating. It is just amateurish.
 
Johnny messed it up again.At least say the kids name right.And he was supposed to be jacking off for us not Johnny.I am trying
to like this guy. But the more I hear him on Broke Straight Boys and the real terrible job he did on Collage Dudes I can't stand him.But Not leaving.
But Johnny is getting real hard to take.
 
Well, I can't believe I'm writing this given my views of this new director as well as some comments here and on the scene page, but I found Johnny's performance here the least objectional of his scenes thus far. I thought the questions were interesting and gave the members an understanding of what Ando does as an MMA. Still, taking 30% of the scene time to do that before we saw dick is too long. Also I thought his directional comments during the scene were helpful (and done in a non-intrusive way) to this guy who is after all a newbie and not use to jerking off in front of a guy or a camera. I still don't know why Johnny feels the need to insert his hand in a scene. Also, he didn't try to be a jokester which he can't pull off and which when he does comes across as his being a wiseass. This was by far, for me, his best directorial effort. Hopefully it is not an aberration, but a sign that he has taken some of the critiques to heart and toned down his demeanor. If the latter is the case, then it is the first sign of hope for me, that he just might work out.

Oh, by the way, those who criticize him for saying "jerk off for me", Clay use to say "Give me a good show" quite frequently.

As for Ando, I gave him a three, average for me. The tats were not excessive to me and didn't bother me. In all my years of having sex with men, I don't think I ever encountered anyone who jerked off that slow - I nodded off a few times. Since Cage Kafig is also an MMA, I'd like to see them paired together with Cage Kafig topping, given his personna.

So to Johnny whom I have been relentless in expressing my displeasure, congratulations on what, for me, was your best effort here to date and I hope you continue in this vein (only not taking so much of a scene's time for the interview). I pay for sex, first and foremost. To Ando, not a bad effort for your first outting and I hope you get a chance to come back to show us if your man enough to have gay sex for pay.
 
I see that director Johnny still needs a manicure. I shouldn't know that. Give Ando another chance as this scene didn't really show any talents he may or may not have. We all paid to hear Johnny talk for the first 1/3 before cock was exposed. If the stock market behaved this way I would be selling fast! I think Johnny ought to do a scene in front of the camera. We could get to know him better and may be we will "understand" better what he is all about. He could do a solo or with a partner, it's up to him. He might learn a little about direction as well.
 
I think it's worth noting here that Johnny's videos are typically longer than Clay's were.

Ando's video was 20 minutes long. If we got 7 minutes of chatting - 7 minutes which many members, myself included, enjoy - we got 13 minutes of Ando doing his thing. The last solo with Clay was Vinnie's, which was just under 16 minutes long. There was 3 minutes of chatting at the start of that one, so we got (just under, but whatever) 13 minutes of Vinnie doing his thing.

So what have you really lost?
 
I think it's worth noting here that Johnny's videos are typically longer than Clay's were.

Ando's video was 20 minutes long. If we got 7 minutes of chatting - 7 minutes which many members, myself included, enjoy - we got 13 minutes of Ando doing his thing. The last solo with Clay was Vinnie's, which was just under 16 minutes long. There was 3 minutes of chatting at the start of that one, so we got (just under, but whatever) 13 minutes of Vinnie doing his thing.

So what have you really lost?
Seems like apples/oranges at this point. Maybe you just talked me into saving some money. I did like Clay's quiet demeanor and laid back attitude and his little chuckle. Maybe that's what is different. BTW look at Johnny's times on his first couple of vids. !/2 was all him. Like I said, he should get in front of the camera and answer some questions as well, then strip and go for it. In the military our commander always said he would not ask us to do something that he wouldn't do himself. I noticed that he was no where around when people were shooting at us though. So we shot back...to kill. Is that what we are doing here? Except your freedom is not at stake, just your entertainment value. When Johnny talks, I cringe. When Clay talked, I invited him in. And what about my boner? (lol)
 
Ando has a pleasing personality, hot body and a great cock. I loved the way he slowly stroked to climax. I gave this shoot a 4. Liked him a lot and hope to see more of him.
 
I think it's worth noting here that Johnny's videos are typically longer than Clay's were.

Ando's video was 20 minutes long. If we got 7 minutes of chatting - 7 minutes which many members, myself included, enjoy - we got 13 minutes of Ando doing his thing. The last solo with Clay was Vinnie's, which was just under 16 minutes long. There was 3 minutes of chatting at the start of that one, so we got (just under, but whatever) 13 minutes of Vinnie doing his thing.

So what have you really lost?



Good point, advocate! I took the latest Clay duo scene (Ian/Johnny) and compared to Johnny's (Damien/Cage Kafig). In percentage of screen time Clay took about 10% of scene time until we saw dick. Johnny took 25% until we saw dick. But that is misleading. As you point out, Johnny's scenes are longer. So in this comparison Clay's scene had a total of 18:53 of scene time from dick to the end. Johnny's had 19:46 for the same period.

I have been paying more attention to the percentage which is not the correct way. Scene minutes is the proper comparison. That's not to say that I would not like to see Johhny's longer scenes with his using Clay's smaller percentage of scene time. But if "ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas." So as long as Johnny keeps the longer scene times then he can prattle on and I will not object. Although I reserve the right to bitch about the prattling itself and how he handles himself and the models.
 
I actually really enjoyed the new director in this scene. I thoroughly enjoyed the questions and getting to know ando. Johnny feels like a actually director and tried his best to keep the model comfortable. I hate to say that the actual scene was one of the slowest and boring scenes I've ever seen on Broke Straight Boys Ando does have a good body but the process was way to slow and almost put me to sleep. A 3 from me but I hope to see him get some energy and show us what he can do.
 
Seems like apples/oranges at this point. Maybe you just talked me into saving some money. I did like Clay's quiet demeanor and laid back attitude and his little chuckle. Maybe that's what is different. BTW look at Johnny's times on his first couple of vids. !/2 was all him. Like I said, he should get in front of the camera and answer some questions as well, then strip and go for it. In the military our commander always said he would not ask us to do something that he wouldn't do himself. I noticed that he was no where around when people were shooting at us though. So we shot back...to kill. Is that what we are doing here? Except your freedom is not at stake, just your entertainment value. When Johnny talks, I cringe. When Clay talked, I invited him in. And what about my boner? (lol)

Aw, I hope I didn't convince you to leave. I liked Clay's presence too, but I don't know man, there were things about his scenes that I didn't like too. The way the production cycle works, the scenes that we're watching now were probably filmed before they saw people's criticisms. I hope you'll stick around to see the batch of scenes where the feedback has been taken into account, you might like them better!
 
Good point, advocate!

Thank you! I have found many of your comments about ways that Johnny can improve to be very fair and measured.

I guess I haven't said anything about Ando yet. He seems to have a very good personality and I like that about him. His look isn't really my thing but I'm sure there are plenty of people who do like it, so, eh? Other than JJ, I seem to be saying that a lot recently.
 
My Wish for Christmas

For those who find the director too wordy, you can simply HIT ADVANCE until you get to a more interesting section with less verbiage and more action you are looking for. The director with his approach gives all of us the option and the least we can do is to do our part in playing the video to suit your on personal taste.

I :welcome9: the new guy on the block(Johnny). Some of us would do well to stop all the petty ante negativity and enjoy the moment instead!

:xmaschristmas: YOU ALL!



Stimpy
 
Where do they find these guys ? They should leave them there.
 
Well, I can't believe I'm writing this given my views of this new director as well as some comments here and on the scene page, but I found Johnny's performance here the least objectional of his scenes thus far. I thought the questions were interesting and gave the members an understanding of what Ando does as an MMA. Still, taking 30% of the scene time to do that before we saw dick is too long. Also I thought his directional comments during the scene were helpful (and done in a non-intrusive way) to this guy who is after all a newbie and not use to jerking off in front of a guy or a camera. I still don't know why Johnny feels the need to insert his hand in a scene. Also, he didn't try to be a jokester which he can't pull off and which when he does comes across as his being a wiseass. This was by far, for me, his best directorial effort. Hopefully it is not an aberration, but a sign that he has taken some of the critiques to heart and toned down his demeanor. If the latter is the case, then it is the first sign of hope for me, that he just might work out.


As for Ando, I gave him a three, average for me. The tats were not excessive to me and didn't bother me. In all my years of having sex with men, I don't think I ever encountered anyone who jerked off that slow - I nodded off a few times. Since Cage Kafig is also an MMA, I'd like to see them paired together with Cage Kafig topping, given his personna.

So to Johnny whom I have been relentless in expressing my displeasure, congratulations on what, for me, was your best effort here to date and I hope you continue in this vein (only not taking so much of a scene's time for the interview). To Ando, not a bad effort for your first outting and I hope you get a chance to come back to show us if your man enough to have gay sex for pay.

Wow Stowe,

I have to agree with you here on most everything. :) I think this was actually Johnny's best scene so far in many ways. The questions he asked were interesting and gave us some good insights into Ando's personality. As noted elsewhere, Johnny may take up more minutes than Clay in the intros, but Johnny's scenes also tend to run longer. So members are not really losing out or being cheated on the time they get to watch the models perform sexually. So for those who like as little pre-scene chat as possible, they can still fast-forward or skip ahead to the more sexually provocative parts of the scenes without missing out.

I'm not saying that Johnny has arrived at the best possible level yet. Nevertheless I still felt this scene showed much improvement. And...I think it was filmed before he even got any feedback from the forum and members elsewhere. So I think it bodes well for the future.

I liked Ando's personality. He speaks with great confidence. He also speaks with an intelligence and awareness that I find refreshing and surprising for someone of only 20 years old. I also found his masturbation technique quite different. He does indeed jack off very slowly. As a spectator, it's not as fun to watch in slow-mo. haha I'm not fond of tattoos in general or a nearly totally shaved pubic area, but I do like him. The more he talked, the more handsome he became in my eyes. He also does give off a very straight vibe. Which I enjoy of course. :) I'm much more interested in seeing how he performs with another guy on camera. Will he be quiet and slow? Or faster and more vocal? Time will tell I guess.

I'm not sure if this is what he was going for, but in Spanish "Ando" (with the same pronunciation he uses) means, "I walk." Or, "I am walking." And just FYI, his largest tattoo says in Latin, "It is sweet and fitting to die for your country." I'd love to hear his inspiration for getting that particular tattoo. I've a feeling there's a good story there. :)
 
Well, I can't believe I'm writing this given my views of this new director as well as some comments here and on the scene page, but I found Johnny's performance here the least objectional of his scenes thus far. I thought the questions were interesting and gave the members an understanding of what Ando does as an MMA. Still, taking 30% of the scene time to do that before we saw dick is too long. Also I thought his directional comments during the scene were helpful (and done in a non-intrusive way) to this guy who is after all a newbie and not use to jerking off in front of a guy or a camera. I still don't know why Johnny feels the need to insert his hand in a scene. Also, he didn't try to be a jokester which he can't pull off and which when he does comes across as his being a wiseass. This was by far, for me, his best directorial effort. Hopefully it is not an aberration, but a sign that he has taken some of the critiques to heart and toned down his demeanor. If the latter is the case, then it is the first sign of hope for me, that he just might work out.

Oh, by the way, those who criticize him for saying "jerk off for me", Clay use to say "Give me a good show" quite frequently.

As for Ando, I gave him a three, average for me. The tats were not excessive to me and didn't bother me. In all my years of having sex with men, I don't think I ever encountered anyone who jerked off that slow - I nodded off a few times. Since Cage Kafig is also an MMA, I'd like to see them paired together with Cage Kafig topping, given his personna.

So to Johnny whom I have been relentless in expressing my displeasure, congratulations on what, for me, was your best effort here to date and I hope you continue in this vein (only not taking so much of a scene's time for the interview). I pay for sex, first and foremost. To Ando, not a bad effort for your first outting and I hope you get a chance to come back to show us if your man enough to have gay sex for pay.

Good point, advocate! I took the latest Clay duo scene (Ian/Johnny) and compared to Johnny's (Damien/Cage Kafig). In percentage of screen time Clay took about 10% of scene time until we saw dick. Johnny took 25% until we saw dick. But that is misleading. As you point out, Johnny's scenes are longer. So in this comparison Clay's scene had a total of 18:53 of scene time from dick to the end. Johnny's had 19:46 for the same period.

I have been paying more attention to the percentage which is not the correct way. Scene minutes is the proper comparison. That's not to say that I would not like to see Johhny's longer scenes with his using Clay's smaller percentage of scene time. But if "ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas." So as long as Johnny keeps the longer scene times then he can prattle on and I will not object. Although I reserve the right to bitch about the prattling itself and how he handles himself and the models.

I actually really enjoyed the new director in this scene. I thoroughly enjoyed the questions and getting to know ando. Johnny feels like a actually director and tried his best to keep the model comfortable. I hate to say that the actual scene was one of the slowest and boring scenes I've ever seen on Broke Straight Boys Ando does have a good body but the process was way to slow and almost put me to sleep. A 3 from me but I hope to see him get some energy and show us what he can do.

Aw, I hope I didn't convince you to leave. I liked Clay's presence too, but I don't know man, there were things about his scenes that I didn't like too. The way the production cycle works, the scenes that we're watching now were probably filmed before they saw people's criticisms. I hope you'll stick around to see the batch of scenes where the feedback has been taken into account, you might like them better!

Thank you! I have found many of your comments about ways that Johnny can improve to be very fair and measured.

I guess I haven't said anything about Ando yet. He seems to have a very good personality and I like that about him. His look isn't really my thing but I'm sure there are plenty of people who do like it, so, eh? Other than JJ, I seem to be saying that a lot recently.

Wow Stowe,

I have to agree with you here on most everything. :) I think this was actually Johnny's best scene so far in many ways. The questions he asked were interesting and gave us some good insights into Ando's personality. As noted elsewhere, Johnny may take up more minutes than Clay in the intros, but Johnny's scenes also tend to run longer. So members are not really losing out or being cheated on the time they get to watch the models perform sexually. So for those who like as little pre-scene chat as possible, they can still fast-forward or skip ahead to the more sexually provocative parts of the scenes without missing out.

I'm not saying that Johnny has arrived at the best possible level yet. Nevertheless I still felt this scene showed much improvement. And...I think it was filmed before he even got any feedback from the forum and members elsewhere. So I think it bodes well for the future.

I liked Ando's personality. He speaks with great confidence. He also speaks with an intelligence and awareness that I find refreshing and surprising for someone of only 20 years old. I also found his masturbation technique quite different. He does indeed jack off very slowly. As a spectator, it's not as fun to watch in slow-mo. haha I'm not fond of tattoos in general or a nearly totally shaved pubic area, but I do like him. The more he talked, the more handsome he became in my eyes. He also does give off a very straight vibe. Which I enjoy of course. :) I'm much more interested in seeing how he performs with another guy on camera. Will he be quiet and slow? Or faster and more vocal? Time will tell I guess.

I'm not sure if this is what he was going for, but in Spanish "Ando" (with the same pronunciation he uses) means, "I walk." Or, "I am walking." And just FYI, his largest tattoo says in Latin, "It is sweet and fitting to die for your country." I'd love to hear his inspiration for getting that particular tattoo. I've a feeling there's a good story there. :)

I am impressed by the expression of change and the change of expression. as Broke Straight Boys 3 evolves the director and the members will adapt.
although I have no way of proving it, I believe you are seeing director evolution happening in November before member comments.
if I am wrong and this is a post-comment December scene, then it shows an ability to adjust.
 
I'm not sure if this is what he was going for, but in Spanish "Ando" (with the same pronunciation he uses) means, "I walk." Or, "I am walking." And just FYI, his largest tattoo says in Latin, "It is sweet and fitting to die for your country." I'd love to hear his inspiration for getting that particular tattoo. I've a feeling there's a good story there. :)

His last name means king in German, which I guess makes him our second MMA fighter with a German last name (along with Cage Kafig Cage Kafig). For what it's worth, Ando is also an affectionate way to say "Andreas" or "Andrea" in some Eastern European languages - it's like our "Andy."
 
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