oldfart63
BSB Addict
I hate it when someone goes all passive/aggressive on me and I apologize to avoid confrontation, then seethe about it later. Pretty much just as I did yesterday.
When I posted my comment yesterday about the scene with Jos Alvarez and Zach, I said some things that I haven't felt I could say in a long, long time. Things like, "I mean, this was good. Really, really good." and, "The camera work was a lot better, too. Did anyone else notice that they avoided the windows about as much as they could?" When was the last time anyone saw me post anything like that? I sure felt good to be able to write something like that and mean it. Of course, me being me, I had my criticism as well. I had to wonder why the lighting had switched back and forth the way it did. Then I had the audacity to say, in my own inimitable way, "The one stupid thing I can think of was the ending." What happened after that, frankly, shocked me.
Admin responded, quoting me, and took me to task for making such a statement. WTF? I called the ending stupid. I didn't call any models stupid. I'll call ideas stupid or actions stupid, but I don't call people stupid. I've read far more scathing personal attacks against specific models by forumites, and admin never said a word. I don't like having my words twisted around and turned into something I didn't say, especially if that implies an attack against the models. I also remember when "admin" actually had their own names, like Sha or Bryce, as well. I have no idea who is even doing what anymore, now that Sha is limiting himself to just a few on-camera moments.
Then "admin" continued, "There was a very long and constructive post a month or so back from a member offering very specific suggestions in the scenes." Yes, I remember that post very well. In fact, it was a good 4 or 5 pages long. That's where I learned they used Kino Flo lighting (I had no idea what that was, so I researched it. It's pretty interesting stuff. In fact, I've discovered that I can learn actual hands-on video production at a local public access TV station near me, so I'm going to do that this winter. It could come in handy with a couple of non-profit organizations I work with). I, too, remember the specific suggestions for the ending. Apparently, we differ in what our idea of "doing what comes naturally" means. Fortunately, the person who posted it, bithebi, spelled it out:
"But if you go back and review the scenes Johnny shot, he would often just let the camera keep running after the guys shot their loads, without any words being spoken for at least a minute. There they lay, stroking their cocks, or making out, or doing a little frottage (again, thank you Ashton for a little frottage action at the end of your scene)."
Doing what comes naturally means doing what a couple would do after their hot sex, as they catch their breath and relax. Frottage is rubbing against each other, not waving to the people watching. Why even acknowledge the camera?
I don't even know what Broke Straight Boys is supposed to be anymore. It started out as a genre where we watched "straight" boys do icky, queer things with each other for money. That was then. Things have changed. That just doesn't work any more, and many forumites have conceded as much. My hope would be that Broke Straight Boys would produce good gay erotica, whether the actors are gay or gay4pay, but lately I was ready to give up on that idea. That is, until the scene with Jos Alvarez and Zach. That was the the most erotic, passionate scene that I've seen Broke Straight Boys put out in a long, long time. And the videography was greatly improved as well. This has nothing to do with how friendly or ebullient the boys are (By the way, they're not boys anymore. Zach was in the military FFS. They're young men). This has to do with professionalism and a critical eye. Am I supposed to believe that they can go to the effort getting in top physical shape before they can be on camera, but I can't expect them to act professionally? They are bringing in more models with previous experience and say they are doing it so that the guys can learn something from them. What are they supposed to be learning? And I prefer to think of them as actors rather than models. Jos Alvarez and Zach showed that they can act extremely well. They didn't just stand there.
Finally, I actually pay to belong to this site (As it's been pointed out, it's a ridiculously low price. Seriously, that's not a sign of a healthy business). This forum was offered as part of that payment; I didn't ask for it. In fact I belonged, on and off, many years before I joined the forum. Too many times I feel it's more of a headache than it's worth. As long as I'm paying to be here (which is tenuous right now), and this forum is offered as part of that payment, then I'll post when I want and as critically as I want (without making personal attacks) in the hope that Broke Straight Boys can regain some of the prominence it had in the past (Remember the different studios, the interviews, and the Pride events?). If I can't do that, then why is there a forum?
When I posted my comment yesterday about the scene with Jos Alvarez and Zach, I said some things that I haven't felt I could say in a long, long time. Things like, "I mean, this was good. Really, really good." and, "The camera work was a lot better, too. Did anyone else notice that they avoided the windows about as much as they could?" When was the last time anyone saw me post anything like that? I sure felt good to be able to write something like that and mean it. Of course, me being me, I had my criticism as well. I had to wonder why the lighting had switched back and forth the way it did. Then I had the audacity to say, in my own inimitable way, "The one stupid thing I can think of was the ending." What happened after that, frankly, shocked me.
Admin responded, quoting me, and took me to task for making such a statement. WTF? I called the ending stupid. I didn't call any models stupid. I'll call ideas stupid or actions stupid, but I don't call people stupid. I've read far more scathing personal attacks against specific models by forumites, and admin never said a word. I don't like having my words twisted around and turned into something I didn't say, especially if that implies an attack against the models. I also remember when "admin" actually had their own names, like Sha or Bryce, as well. I have no idea who is even doing what anymore, now that Sha is limiting himself to just a few on-camera moments.
Then "admin" continued, "There was a very long and constructive post a month or so back from a member offering very specific suggestions in the scenes." Yes, I remember that post very well. In fact, it was a good 4 or 5 pages long. That's where I learned they used Kino Flo lighting (I had no idea what that was, so I researched it. It's pretty interesting stuff. In fact, I've discovered that I can learn actual hands-on video production at a local public access TV station near me, so I'm going to do that this winter. It could come in handy with a couple of non-profit organizations I work with). I, too, remember the specific suggestions for the ending. Apparently, we differ in what our idea of "doing what comes naturally" means. Fortunately, the person who posted it, bithebi, spelled it out:
"But if you go back and review the scenes Johnny shot, he would often just let the camera keep running after the guys shot their loads, without any words being spoken for at least a minute. There they lay, stroking their cocks, or making out, or doing a little frottage (again, thank you Ashton for a little frottage action at the end of your scene)."
Doing what comes naturally means doing what a couple would do after their hot sex, as they catch their breath and relax. Frottage is rubbing against each other, not waving to the people watching. Why even acknowledge the camera?
I don't even know what Broke Straight Boys is supposed to be anymore. It started out as a genre where we watched "straight" boys do icky, queer things with each other for money. That was then. Things have changed. That just doesn't work any more, and many forumites have conceded as much. My hope would be that Broke Straight Boys would produce good gay erotica, whether the actors are gay or gay4pay, but lately I was ready to give up on that idea. That is, until the scene with Jos Alvarez and Zach. That was the the most erotic, passionate scene that I've seen Broke Straight Boys put out in a long, long time. And the videography was greatly improved as well. This has nothing to do with how friendly or ebullient the boys are (By the way, they're not boys anymore. Zach was in the military FFS. They're young men). This has to do with professionalism and a critical eye. Am I supposed to believe that they can go to the effort getting in top physical shape before they can be on camera, but I can't expect them to act professionally? They are bringing in more models with previous experience and say they are doing it so that the guys can learn something from them. What are they supposed to be learning? And I prefer to think of them as actors rather than models. Jos Alvarez and Zach showed that they can act extremely well. They didn't just stand there.
Finally, I actually pay to belong to this site (As it's been pointed out, it's a ridiculously low price. Seriously, that's not a sign of a healthy business). This forum was offered as part of that payment; I didn't ask for it. In fact I belonged, on and off, many years before I joined the forum. Too many times I feel it's more of a headache than it's worth. As long as I'm paying to be here (which is tenuous right now), and this forum is offered as part of that payment, then I'll post when I want and as critically as I want (without making personal attacks) in the hope that Broke Straight Boys can regain some of the prominence it had in the past (Remember the different studios, the interviews, and the Pride events?). If I can't do that, then why is there a forum?
