What are models paid?

[al60]

I hate to seem naive, but are the guys REALLY paid only about $1500.00 for being a bottom, or is it more like $5000 and they are acting? always was curious about that. thanks. Al.

 

[slimvintage]

Welcome mister. Not only you, but your queries as well. This is something I've been interested in ever since joining the forum and have been asking gently for some guidance from David, the filmer/producer for months.

It has occurred to me that he might not want to answer (since he hasn't) for a number of quite defensible reasons, including income tax, both his and the boys', as well as trade secrecy and confidentiality in the face of industry competition. He recruits really great talent and if their fees were public, they might be subject to the lure of a hundred or so more from rival porn people for the same kind of work.

It doesn't matter WHAT the amount is, it would be interesting to know if the one mentioned in the video is the real one, that's all.

Dave's away for a fortnight. Ask him again when he gets back.

 

[parisnoyd]

Another site I subscribe to pays their straight models very well to have gay sex. But then they are expected to perform with passion. Just like they are really enjoying themselves! hehe The ones that stick with it make good money, AND enjoy themselves in the process.

I can't remember the site I checked out, but it is one of the bonus sites here. I looked at the application link there, (no I wasn't applying LOL) and they had broken down each sex act by dollar amount. The more the models are willing to do, the more $ they make. The pay was similar to Broke Straight Boys

It's been stated elsewhere on the Forum the models will be making more money in future vids. Torin and Steve made $2,500 in their last vid. Looks like the start of something good for the Broke Straight Boys models.

 

[mikeyank]

It doesn't matter WHAT the amount is, it would be interesting to know if the one mentioned in the video is the real one, that's all.

That is the exact question that I was asking in the recent contentious Aiden, Torin, And Steve thread. I asked if David or Mark could just answer if the figures stated on the videos are reality or not. It came up when "poor" Aiden was having all his orifices violated , and apparently got paid a pittance compared to his straight fellow models in the scene.

For all the reasons Slim and Paris stated, it is not our place to ask the actual figure, but it would help those of us obsessed with the reality versus fiction aspect of Broke Straight Boys And if you don't answer, I understand, but the more "inside information" that is provided, the more I enjoy the videos and the site, in general.

 

[yabba]

My WAG is the figures are ballparkish. As my grandmother said "it never hurts to ask" but there are lot of questions you tend not to get answers for. Also the models get transportation and room and board. My curiosity is what % of gross is the price of talent. but I don't expect an answer to that question either.

 

[rifle]

al60, it's one of those questions that keep getting asked and for so many really obvious reasons is never answered. I don't doubt for one instant that David's taxes are in perfect order and I cannot imagine a successful businessman like Mark even contemplating that type of fraud. In such a high risk venture taking a chance on taxes would make even Al Capone blush. In the first place the income is all fairly well documented, credit cards, bank drafts, and so forth, and the expenses, models fees and such, must also be closely scrutinized. There's no way for them to hide profit and why on earth would you want to hide legitimate expenses?

As to what the models are paid, the only thing I could recommend is sleeping with a model and hoping for some pillow talk, or in the case of some of the straight ones, asking their wives or girlfriends. And, al60, knowing some of their wives and girlfriends, the first of those options would definitely be the most exciting. Of course, as a dear friend of mine said, "Sign up, find your way to the futon, and cash your check."

You're going to see this topic bandied about on this site constantly. The best advice I can give you is pay no attention to it. Those who know aren't going to tell you and, I guess, those who don't know want to rename the site "Broke Straight Boys with a Sore Ass and a Check for $1500 Dollars in Their Pockets."

Years ago, a store I frequented sold computer diskettes for $1 while the bookstore at the university sold them for $3.99. Customers who were obsessed with the price difference hounded everyone about the cost until the bookstore dropped it's price to $1.50. Wal-Mart immediately stocked them at $.98. People began to scream about the bookstore's outrageous markup and the bookstore stopped carrying them. (In truth, they were paying $1.48 for the $1.50 disks.) Then the other store stopped carrying them and Wal-Mart raised the price back to $2.00. (They were paying $.85 for the diskettes.) At the end of the diskette wars everybody got screwed - except Wal-Mart. I know, some of us think the site is more than porn, some of us think it's only porn, some of us think it's a mixture. The truth is, fuck the porn, it's a business and I can't think of a single business (except the automobile industry) where the dealer's cost is advertised (and we all know how many holes there are in that amount).

Goodness gracious, I understand obsessions with inside information and the enjoyment it brings, but if we play that card everytime we want to know something, we may end up back at Wal-Mart paying their price for it and not even knowing if the product was made in China or East Poughkeepsie.

Yours was an excellent question, al60. It's great to have your voice on the forum - no matter which side of the price sticker you eventually come down on. Join in the fray. It's no fun if everyone agrees. Now I need to step back and allow myself to be served up in a pie, Titus Andronicus style. As Mark Twain said, "If it weren't for the honor of the thing, I just as soon pass."

 

[BrokeStraightBoys]

How much they are paid really depends. It usually ranges from 600-1200 and up to bottom but I have increased the budget for that so we can get hotter guys. Some guys want 1,500 just to jerkoff which is ridiculous. We get so many model submissions everyday so it just isn't worth it to pay some of them what they are requesting. Some models we just can't deal with their attitude so we pass on them. We try to keep it as real as possible. If they are gay we will say they are gay and are there to help the straight boys. We don't tell them to act, we just guide them and tell them how the scene will go etc.

Mark

 

[joninliverton]

Here's my recommendation:

Wank/Jerkoff - 200
Touch/Blowjob - 400
Fuck whether it's top or bottom - 1000

Extras:

Kissing - 100
Rimming/Facial - 100 each.



If they're genuine Broke kids then they'll take the dough, jeez we are in a recession and I guess the money is all "cash in hand".

If they don't like it, then take a hike.

 

[slimvintage]

dickering with the straighties lol

How much they are paid really depends. It usually ranges from 600-1200 and up to bottom but I have increased the budget for that so we can get hotter guys. Some guys want 1,500 just to jerkoff which is ridiculous. We get so many model submissions everyday so it just isn't worth it to pay some of them what they are requesting. Some models we just can't deal with their attitude so we pass on them. We try to keep it as real as possible. If they are gay we will say they are gay and are there to help the straight boys. We don't tell them to act, we just guide them and tell them how the scene will go etc.

Mark

Thanks Mark. You really knock me out every time man, both in private and here on the forum.

I love the verb "to dicker". It isn't even in Wikipedia but it's a great little concept with the perfect name to describe what you guys do with some of the futon candidates when discussing their fees lol...

And the fact that some of them won't bargain, and still want a grand and a half to jack their dicks is heady information for us reality freaks, right mikeyank?


dick·er (dkr)
intr.v. dick·ered, dick·er·ing, dick·ers
To bargain; barter.
n.
The act or process of bargaining.

 

[al60]

sounds reasonable. and a better way to phrase the question.

 

[al60]

hell, would be MORE than happy to have one of one of those models for 1500 for pillow talk or whatever. Just ONE time. LOL. but $5000? nah. that's a lot of months of subscriptions to BOTH Broke Straight Boys and BCB. heh.

 

[al60]

that's the answer i was curious about. answers my question. great. thanks a million.

 

[scorpio]

I have the feeling I need to bookmark this thread for future use hehe

 

[mikeyank]

I have the feeling I need to bookmark this thread for future use hehe

Why Scorpio? Are you thinking about working on the other side of the futon for Christmas money? But being a gay boy, you would only be paid the discounted rate.

 

[mikeyank]

How much they are paid really depends. It usually ranges from 600-1200 and up to bottom but I have increased the budget for that so we can get hotter guys. Some guys want 1,500 just to jerkoff which is ridiculous. We get so many model submissions everyday so it just isn't worth it to pay some of them what they are requesting. Some models we just can't deal with their attitude so we pass on them. We try to keep it as real as possible. If they are gay we will say they are gay and are there to help the straight boys. We don't tell them to act, we just guide them and tell them how the scene will go etc.

Mark

Thank you Mark for your direct answer, but I'm still wondering if the amounts quoted by David during the scenes are accurate, or does the true scale vary from the spoken fee in the scene?

Again, I'm not being nosy and asking who earns what, and I do believe that any actor or athlete who performs in the public eye, deserves to be paid as much as they can earn. (It is part of the free enterprise system). But as Slim understands, I want to know what on my reality based porn is truly real, and what is artistic licence. But thanks for your answer. I do appreciate your honesty.

 

[al60]

well, what the hey. glad I started something going. LOL.

 

[joninliverton]

Well it looks as if inflation has finally caught up at Broke Straight Boys Preston and Mike got 800 for a blowjob and wank - seems good money to me but a few have got a lot less for a lot more.