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Happy Valentines Day....

Happy Valentines Day Everyone...:smiley-love021: xoxoxo...
Right back at you Johnny, to one of the sweetest guy's I've ever known and to all forumites, even the "mean" ones, lol...............................

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Goerge M. Cohan used to always end his family's act with: "My Mother thanks you, my Father thanks you, my Sister thanks you, and I thank you."

On Valentine's Day, the message to the world is: "The card makers thank you, the candy makers thank you, the florists thank you, and the restaurants thank you" for being drawn in to all this hoopla and lining our pockets with mucho dinero.
 
Happy Valentine's Day everyone; hope you all have a day filled with love...and not just this day!:par50:
Steve and I are celebrating our 27th Anniversary today. We plan to spend the day enjoying one another...fully!
 
Goerge M. Cohan used to always end his family's act with: "My Mother thanks you, my Father thanks you, my Sister thanks you, and I thank you."

On Valentine's Day, the message to the world is: "The card makers thank you, the candy makers thank you, the florists thank you, and the restaurants thank you" for being drawn in to all this hoopla and lining our pockets with mucho dinero.

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Dear Stowe -

As my favourite Canadian Prime Minister, an Irishman by the name of Martin Brian Mulroney, used to say, I'm gonna call you out on this one, and say, "LOOKIT":

St. Valentine's Day (as a celebration for lovers) is not everybody's favourite time. In fact, it is an incredibly hard and difficult time, for those who are longing for love, and who don't yet have it. (I've been there, and done that - and I am not out of the woods, yet.)

But, St. Valentine's Day is a legitimate day of commemoration in the Roman calendar - as re-authorized by your friend, and mine, Pope Benedict XVI ;-) There were - - - probably, at least THREE St. Valentines. About whom, very little is known, in point of fact, BUT-

The most prominent of them was celebrated, not because he FOUND LOVE HIMSELF, but because - at the risk of persecution and death - which he ultimately endured - he AIDED love, in the cause of others. . .marrying Christian couples, when the Emperor of the day, had forbidden it. And then he was put to death, and buried on the Via Flaminia.

St. Valentine didn't GET love, himself - he GAVE his life, to help other lovers - and that is why he is justly celebrated, to this day. And, Stowe, I would also suggest. . . if you love someone - ANY excuse to buy him (or her) a couple of flowers, or a bit of candy - is welcome, and important. (Indeed, anyone whom one TRULY loves, deserves these things EVERY DAY, and randomly - whenever, and HOWEVER, they can be given.)

So. . . let's not be mean and cranky, or sour about such things: and disparage those who are in love, their OFFERINGS of kindness and love, to those WHOM they love. It is only meet, and right, that they should offer these gifts. Yes, for sure - just like Christmas, and birthdays, and all such occasions - our current commercial world has sought to monetize people's emotions. . . . BUT

That doesn't mean those emotions are any the less REAL, or GENUINE. And. . .you, and I, and everyone - ought to be thankful that there IS STILL HUMAN LOVE, in this world. Because it is a good thing, and a lovely thing, and (furthermore) a holy, and sacred thing.

I praise and thank the martyr, St. Valentine, for his love of God, and PEOPLE. And I hope (belatedly) that all my friends on Broke Straight Boys had a wonderful and happy Valentine's Day - and that, if you don't have the love you desire, at this present moment, you shall soon FIND IT.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO

 
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Dear Stowe -

As my favourite Canadian Prime Minister, an Irishman by the name of Martin Brian Mulroney, used to say, I'm gonna call you out on this one, and say, "LOOKIT":

St. Valentine's Day (as a celebration for lovers) is not everybody's favourite time. In fact, it is an incredibly hard and difficult time, for those who are longing for love, and who don't yet have it. (I've been there, and done that - and I am not out of the woods, yet.)

But, St. Valentine's Day is a legitimate day of commemoration in the Roman calendar - as re-authorized by your friend, and mine, Pope Benedict XVI ;-) There were - - - probably, at least THREE St. Valentines. About whom, very little is known, in point of fact, BUT-

The most prominent of them was celebrated, not because he FOUND LOVE HIMSELF, but because - at the risk of persecution and death - which he ultimately endured - he AIDED love, in the cause of others. . .marrying Christian couples, when the Emperor of the day, had forbidden it. And then he was put to death, and buried on the Via Flaminia.

St. Valentine didn't GET love, himself - he GAVE his life, to help other lovers - and that is why he is justly celebrated, to this day. And, Stowe, I would also suggest. . . if you love someone - ANY excuse to buy him (or her) a couple of flowers, or a bit of candy - is welcome, and important. (Indeed, anyone whom one TRULY loves, deserves these things EVERY DAY, and randomly - whenever, and HOWEVER, they can be given.)

So. . . let's not be mean and cranky, or sour about such things: and disparage those who are in love, their OFFERINGS of kindness and love, to those WHOM they love. It is only meet, and right, that they should offer these gifts. Yes, for sure - just like Christmas, and birthdays, and all such occasions - our current commercial world has sought to monetize people's emotions. . . . BUT

That doesn't mean those emotions are any the less REAL, or GENUINE. And. . .you, and I, and everyone - ought to be thankful that there IS STILL HUMAN LOVE, in this world. Because it is a good thing, and a lovely thing, and (furthermore) a holy, and sacred thing.

I praise and thank the martyr, St. Valentine, for his love of God, and PEOPLE. And I hope (belatedly) that all my friends on Broke Straight Boys had a wonderful and happy Valentine's Day - and that, if you don't have the love you desire, at this present moment, you shall soon FIND IT.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO




Dear Ambi:

First, with all due respect, you don't have to educated me with respect to St. Valentine. During my years in the seminary and novitiate, we read his martyrology in Latin during dinner every year.

Secondly, you have every right to call me out - disagree - with my views.

Thirdly, my peroration about Valentines Day had nothing to due with love or the absence thereof in my life; My ex-wife and I got engaged on the day after Valentines Day and exchanged cards and did something romantic and sentimental always on the day after - just as our thing. We did do kids' things for our children on the 14th. Moreover, I didn't mention anything about love in my initial post, nor was it mean, cranky, or sour; nor did I disparage love or those who might be in love. I'm afraid these are things you chose to infer from my rather mundane post to use in making your comments.

Fourth, nothing in my second paragraph is erroneous. Those businesses thank their lucky stars that people have bought into their marketing and advertising campaigns to make this holiday a truly bountiful one for their bottom lines. (I just used the Cohan routine as a humorous way of getting my point across.)

And finally, in what I call my second life - after I came out and left the professional business world, I worked at a gay club here in the 'Burgh. That's when I viscerally began to dislike the holiday because it is one of what we use to call those "fag amateur hour" holidays like New Years Eve where people who usually don't come out to party and drink do so and get shit-faced and cause more problems that they are worth.

So now I send a card to each of my grandchildren on the 14th and that's it.
 
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Goerge M. Cohan used to always end his family's act with: "My Mother thanks you, my Father thanks you, my Sister thanks you, and I thank you."

On Valentine's Day, the message to the world is: "The card makers thank you, the candy makers thank you, the florists thank you, and the restaurants thank you" for being drawn in to all this hoopla and lining our pockets with mucho dinero.

I gotta chime in and agree with Stowie. It's a money spinning racket as are gay prides. I have an old friend who used to go to the very first british gay prides in London and Brighton when there were just a few thousand people there and everything was free. Now there are hundreds of thousands and it costs you and arm and a leg.
 
Dear Ambi:

First, with all due respect, you don't have to educated me with respect to St. Valentine. During my years in the seminary and novitiate, we read his martyrology in Latin during dinner every year.

Secondly, you have every right to call me out - disagree - with my views.

Thirdly, my peroration about Valentines Day had nothing to due with love or the absence thereof in my life; My ex-wife and I got engaged on the day after Valentines Day and exchanged cards and did something romantic and sentimental always on the day after - just as our thing. We did do kids' things for our children on the 14th. Moreover, I didn't mention anything about love in my initial post, nor was it mean, cranky, or sour; nor did I disparage love or those who might be in love. I'm afraid these are things you chose to infer from my rather mundane post to use in making your comments.

Fourth, nothing in my second paragraph is erroneous. Those businesses thank their lucky stars that people have bought into their marketing and advertising campaigns to make this holiday a truly bountiful one for their bottom lines. (I just used the Cohan routine as a humorous way of getting my point across.)

And finally, in what I call my second life - after I came out and left the professional business world, I worked at a gay club here in the 'Burgh. That's when I viscerally began to dislike the holiday because it is one of what we use to call those "fag amateur hour" holidays like New Years Eve where people who usually don't come out to party and drink do so and get shit-faced and cause more problems that they are worth.

So now I send a card to each of my grandchildren on the 14th and that's it.

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Well, Stowe ~

I sincerely do apologize, insomuch or insofar as I have unjustly disparaged either your knowledge of martyrology, or church-Latin. I am certain you're more proficient in both these subjects, than I.

I appreciate, greatly, all the things you have done for your family - and continue to do for your grandchildren, now. It bespeaks a great kindness, and love, on your part.

As regards your second paragraph - it seems to me that questions of veracity, or error, were never in question. To my way of thinking (though I might be, as I usually am, WRONG): the question was purely one of aesthetics, and emphasis.

There are no hard feelings, in this regard, Stowe, whatsoever. You are absolutely an admirable, and a very nice person, too. It just so happens that you and I see, hear, and FEEL the world in very different ways. (It has always been, thus.) Quite respectfully, I cannot recall ever having felt about any single issue, as you do - and if I ever SHOULD - I suppose I would be quite disquieted, in the event!

Because you and I are very different people - with incommensurable aesthetics, and emotional sensibilities. And that is just fine.

Suffice it to say, that, despite our differences (and my quite measurable deficiency, in Latin): I am quite happy to know you as an interlocutor on this board. While I seldom agree with your judgements, here - I do appreciate your integrity and courage, in stating your ideas, clearly, boldly, and succintly - and I do think your love of your grand-children is perfectly (even sublimely) adorable.

You and I are simply possessed of different aesthetics, that's all. I see and feel the world in one way; you see it and feel it, in another.

"A" XOXOXOXOXOXO

 
I appreciate this thread if for no other reason that it taught us that Stowe is an ex-husband, father and grandfather. It helps to humanize you all the more for the rest of us Stowe. Rather than just a disembodied voice in a virtual realm, by sharing this with us, we can appreciate you more in all of your complexity. All my best wishes to you and your family. :)
 
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I know that some people get annoyed when threads are pulled off topic. And yes. Sometimes I can be one of the worst offenders. Mea culpa! But... Valentine's Day is over with. lol So this thread would have just died a natural death otherwise anyway. :)


Dear Ambi,

I was really struck by this reminder to the film, The Talented Mr. Ripley. It spoke to many topics which I believe resonate with some of us here on this site in particular. That being, unrequited love.

Whether it has been unrequited love from another gay man or a heavy crush, infatuation or love with a completely unattainable straight guy, I think we can all feel Matt Damon's pain here. He did a superb acting job in the film. He played the protagonist who was a very closeted gay man of the 1950's. You had to be back then! He was a liar, a con man, a thief and yes...even a murderer. Yet he played the role so well that he made even the straight audience feel great empathy and sadness for him. (Even sympathy for the situations he found himself in.)

Since many of the lead actors are within about 10 years of my age, it was wonderful to look back on them in their 20's and remember when I looked somewhat as good. haha After Good Will Hunting and Saving Private Ryan...The Talented Mr. Ripley was where Matt Damon proved that he really could act and make it in Hollywood for the long haul.

Earthly love on this side of heaven can be sublime, euphoric and wonderful. Unrequited love (of any kind) can also be maddening and tortuous. lol
 
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